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New D1 Subdivision--the Beginning of the Split?

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kn1f3party said:
NCAA proposing new college athletics subdivision rooted in direct athlete compensation

TLDR: NCAA is proposing new models for the schools with healthy resources to separate from those that don't.

So many implications to this but it feels inevitable.
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The NCAA actually trying to get out in front of something that's inevitable? I'm shocked. Like legitimately shocked.

The split, as we're calling it, would lessen the NCAA's influence so I guess it's not a huge surprise they would try to build a model where they (the NCAA) stays on top of it. But to see an actual plan is still rather surprising.
 
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kn1f3party said:
There's a gem of a line in the article about how the NCAA still prohibits pay for play, but basically yes.
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It's semantics at that point. The only difference between this and pay to play appears to be Trust fund which appears to be paid out at end of career rather then weekly/monthly paychecks.

Schools being able to offer their own players NIL will fill the gaps in the meantime. Is anyone going to bat an eye when a school like OSU pays CJ/Marv/etc a million dollars to be in their ad comparing and show up to a few donor events?
 
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BuckBackHome said:
So, minor league?
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I like it and college sports have been moving towards this since the creation of the BCS in 2000. Let's be honest: Only the Power 5 schools (and not even all of them) and a few independents care and/or are able to competitive on a yearly basis. Might as well fully erase the facade of equity in Div. 1 and let the sport lean into the elitism people have tried to ignore for so long. Just create the super league and let the big boys duke it out. That's what everyone wants anyways.
 
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baremu527 said:
I like it and college sports have been moving towards this since the creation of the BCS in 2000. Let's be honest: Only the Power 5 schools (and not even all of them) and a few independents care and/or are able to competitive on a yearly basis. Might as well fully erase the facade of equity in Div. 1 and let the sport lean into the elitism people have tried to ignore for so long. Just create the super league and let the big boys duke it out. That's what everyone wants anyways.
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Pretty much this but the equity bit will be hard given Title IX still being a constraint per the proposal.

These guys aren't going to want to share 100's of millions with the women's lax team because the government says so.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Pretty much this but the equity bit will be hard given Title IX still being a constraint per the proposal.

These guys aren't going to want to share 100's of millions with the women's lax team because the government says so.
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I agree. That's why I think a lot of schools will drop the non-revenue sports to avoid being compliant with the rule. I’ll be sad to see them go, but if I’m seeing OSU-Bama type match ups every week, good riddance lol. I’m sure supporters of those sports and athletes will feel otherwise, but just turn them into club sports and give them academic scholarships. There will be enough money being made to figure something out.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Juggalos actually believe that this would be a full P4 breakaway that would include them and cut them in on the media deal. Fools. It's setting up to be a P2 breakaway with lifeboats for around a dozen other programs that have big money (ND, UNC, Stanford etc)
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Not only that I expect Purdue/NW/Vandy's of the world to bow out if this becomes a thing even with the TV money.
 
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dragurd said:
Not only that I expect Purdue/NW/Vandy's of the world to bow out if this becomes a thing even with the TV money.
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This was the first thing my mind went to... although one could see a future where they're able to gut out for the first few years and become a lot more competitive as the other P4-caliber players start shifting toward the new subdivision where there are scholarships. That, in turn, may start to drive revenues up.
 
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baremu527 said:
but if I’m seeing OSU-Bama type match ups every week, good riddance
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Those fanbases are not used to 3, 4, 5 loss seasons every year. This would be terrible for CFB.

Edit: on paper a schedule like this for, we will say, Ohio State sounds great.

Auburn
@ Oregon
@ Penn State
USC
Michigan State
@ LSU
Nebraska
Wisconsin
@ UCLA
@ Iowa
tCun

What is a realistic W-L on this schedule every year?
 
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LovelandBuckeye said:
Those fanbases are not used to 3, 4, 5 loss seasons every year. This would be terrible for CFB.

Edit: on paper a schedule like this for, we will say, Ohio State sounds great.

Auburn
@ Oregon
@ Penn State
USC
Michigan State
@ LSU
Nebraska
Wisconsin
@ UCLA
@ Iowa
tCun

What is a realistic W-L on this schedule every year?
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The national champion would definitely have 2-3 loses, most years. Undefeated regular seasons would be a thing of the past. Good thing we are transitioning to a 12 team playoff though.

I feel you but people would just get used to the new normal in 5 yrs of this. We’d still have a standard of beating TSUN and winning the conference. You’d just see a lot of good football week in and out, and every week will really matter, win or lose. Yes, it’s fun to beat the Bowling Green’ and Tulane’s into oblivion, but times have changed. This is the new world of college football.
 
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Oh but what people are missing they would remove the limit of countable couches for this. Which is the big thing the large schools have been trying to pass. Sounds like them trying to entice the schools that want that.
 
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