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O.J. Mayo (Official Thread)

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ysubuck;1161914; said:
I've argued that if Mo C was an 09 recruit he wouldn't be recruited by Ohio State. JT doesn't need to take risks on players like that now that he's established himself.
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1. You're job is only as safe as your last victory, although a victory over Michigan might get you a one year extension.

2. I love and admire Jim Tressel, but he's as human as the next coach.

3. In my time the only coach that seemed fully embrace the concept of recruiting only good kids and turning down troublemakers was Fred Taylor and you saw what the public did to him.
 
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methomps;1162078; said:
You are mistaken because USC is the NCAA's cash cow and the NCAA would never punish USC. And ESPN would never investigate USC.

Edit: And the answer for NCAA penalties is 1957, 1959, 1982, 1986, and 2001. No real correlation.
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The way to pick succes is trival ill use rose bowls/bcs bowls
using the above bowls and normal font and your listed violations. is their a good list of ncaa violations dates out there somewhere?


Since 1946 Rose Bowls
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care to elaborate on what these violations were for?

1998 or 1999 they had the whole tutor thing which led to reduced football scholarships in 2002 and 2003

http://graphics.fansonly.com/schools/usc/graphics/media-guides/06-footbl/05fbguide208.pdf
 
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1957 was the slush fund scandal that ended the PCC (Washington, Cal, UCLA, and USC were all paying their players through bogus educational funds). 1959 was for USC providing transportation for two student-athletes to come to Los Angeles. 1982 was a ticket-selling scandal where assistant coach Marv Goux and players would sell comp tickets for profit. There was also some bogus speech courses and students who were admitted under a program that wasn't supposed to be used for athletes. 1986 was for too many complimentary tickets distributed, a weight-lifting program that didn't conform with NCAA schedules, and various minor recruiting violations. And 2001 was the tutor writing papers for athletes.

https://goomer.ncaa.org/wdbctx/LSDBi/LSDBI.home
 
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methomps said:
1957 was the slush fund scandal that ended the PCC (Washington, Cal, UCLA, and USC were all paying their players through bogus educational funds). 1959 was for USC providing transportation for two student-athletes to come to Los Angeles. 1982 was a ticket-selling scandal where assistant coach Marv Goux and players would sell comp tickets for profit. There was also some bogus speech courses and students who were admitted under a program that wasn't supposed to be used for athletes. 1986 was for too many complimentary tickets distributed, a weight-lifting program that didn't conform with NCAA schedules, and various minor recruiting violations. And 2001 was the tutor writing papers for athletes.

https://goomer.ncaa.org/wdbctx/LSDBi/LSDBI.home
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didnt mckay have some violations?

wasnt their a transcript issue too?

nice link and good info. youre taking a roasting better than most would.
 
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on oj

i know for a staff multiple staffs passed on this kid due to eligibility issues and his history. that being said know that obie didnt want lebron for one year. lebron wanted to come to columbus for one year. obie said two min. obie shyed away from lebron but realized if he could get a two year deal out of lbj what it would do-get him off the hot seat... lebron had similar issues as oj. that being said to some level tressel but some effort into lebron-more than obie at least.

it is what it is and honestly at this point i dont know what it is-so to say. time will tell. at this point i think its important that this board remeber the moc saga. this is america, innocent until proven guilty.
 
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methomps;1162078; said:
I've seen it all now. A post on BP citing ESPN to show that a given response is reasonable? I can only imagine what kind of response that article would've drawn here if it was about tOSU and came out after the Troy Smith incident. In fact, I probably could go find out if I spent my day in the ESPN/OSU forum archives.
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I notice that you conveniently ignored the fact that I said there was an article on cnnsi.com that contained virtually everything (and more, arguably) that the espn.com article stated. FYI, those were the only two sports websites I visited yesterday, yet I hardly think that they were the only ones that had scathing indictments of the USC athletic department. But go ahead and continue deflecting--that seems to be what USC does best, after all.
 
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buckeyesin07;1162278; said:
I notice that you conveniently ignored the fact that I said there was an article on cnnsi.com that contained virtually everything (and more, arguably) that the espn.com article stated. FYI, those were the only two sports websites I visited yesterday, yet I hardly think that they were the only ones that had scathing indictments of the USC athletic department. But go ahead and continue deflecting--that seems to be what USC does best, after all.
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Does the information he provided in posts #634 and #638 above look like deflecting?

Edit - I just read the article by Luke Winn on cnnsi.com. It did very little but restate what was in the ESPN report and rehash some other material. I wouldn't expect someone to respond to it, especially since you didn't provide a link. Here's one for anyone who cares to read it.

cnnsi.com/luke_winn
 
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jimotis4heisman;1162285; said:
what was the 1982 speech course thing.

not being a jerk, just you more than just about anyone on your program and to your credit you are dead honest. i respect that.
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During the fall of 1979, the academic coordinator for athletics made arrangements with a lecturer in the department of speech communications at the university to permit student-athletes to enroll in certain speech communications courses with the understanding that the young men would do little, if any, academic work and would be graded as student-athletes, not as students
 
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Can you imagine the halftime show ESPN is planning for the Ohio State - USC football game? They're probably running around in Bristol humping each other's legs in anticipation. :slappy:

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Well, when you consider that pro football on the west coast consists of the 49ers, chargers and seasqwaks, the largest potential for saleable product remains the USC football program. If the Big 10 is OSU, Michigan and the 8/9 dwarfs; then the PAC was/is USC and nobody for any consistent langth of time.

The Rose Bowl listings demonstrates that in dramatic fashion.

All of which seems to make it imperative to force USC to win its next NC someplace other than Los Angeles or Phoenix.
 
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