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Game Thread Ohio State at Penn State, 10/22/16, 8:00pm ET ABC/WatchESPN

Discussion in '2016 Football Season Capsule' started by ScriptOhio, Apr 19, 2016.

  1. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    If they have, it's been rare.

    Now last year they tried it occasionally, but the blocking was pretty uninspiring. I was hoping to see what this unit would do with much better perimeter blocking.
  2. buckeyebri

    buckeyebri 40 Days in the Hole

    I would like to see us get Samuel and/or Wilson matched up on the LB. Quick slants or crosses coming out of the slot would be great and easy on the Oline. With the way the DEs were coming up the field, I was surprised we didn't run right underneath them.
  3. Nigel Tufnel

    Nigel Tufnel Choking on vomit

    Agree on all counts. Required reading for anyone assessing the situation. Thanks Jwins.
  4. Crow

    Crow Tough and stringy


  5. Zander42

    Zander42 Stupendous Nut

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  6. Systems_id

    Systems_id Senior

    To be fair, we never needed to throw for more. The game was pretty much over at half time and the Buckeyes were more or less running at will.
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  7. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    Game was over in happy bally when we lead 21 to 7 into the 4th but didn't stop us from going all Mike leach on things lol...
  8. 1926Buckeyes

    1926Buckeyes Senior

    Great post. So this is just a reoccurring weakness in Meyer's coaching that can only be cured if he makes a great hire and is willing to give up some control?

    Plus better outside talent too.
  9. scarletmike

    scarletmike Researching the Magic!

    The jet sweep is fine if they actually use it well to keep teams honest and from collapsing on it. The option, on the other hand...if they absolutely must continue to use it, then run it to the far side of the field! I don't understand why they always seem to want to run it to the near side when it takes away space for the player getting the pitch to create missed tackles and lanes keep getting clogged with blockers and defenders. Or set it up with a reverse if you must run plays to the near side.
  10. Bill Lucas

    Bill Lucas Senior

    They need to pass out of the option look. There's nothing to the option to keep a defense from just charging up field right now. They could drag the TE or a receiver from the other side and make the defense pay for only playing the option.
  11. Systems_id

    Systems_id Senior

    And you saw where that got us
  12. Poe McKnoe

    Poe McKnoe Senior

    I would get the short side is technically a numbers or power advantage vs the wide side, depending on coverage. But everyone is correct that those numbers disappear rather quickly with LBs and Safties crashing. Unfortunately, Curtis Samuel and to a lesser extent Dontre are the only ones that have shown they can do anything after catching the ball. Again, you can either expect WRs get open or scheme them open. You have to challenge the defense rather than slamming your playmakers into a mass of bodies or a spying safety.
  13. Telekinesis

    Telekinesis Easily Amused by the Bitterly Disappointed

    ...To the playoffs?? 8D

    Shh, let me just enjoy the fact that the possibility is still there. I'll take this feeling over last year's MSU fiasco.

    Anything could happen. Suppose we'll find out Saturday what the plan is from here on out.
  14. OSUK

    OSUK Sometimes lucid, mostly confused

    That was tough to watch - at least the 4th qtr. A few thoughts:

    1) I hate losing to Penn State, especially if it has any chance of jump starting that program. Would be happy if they hovered around 6-6 for the rest of their existence. That sentiment has everything to do with their fans and nothing to do with their team/players. I really admired how hard those guys played and how much heart they showed. We could have used a little more of that.

    2) Momentum is a powerful thing in sports. When you got it, you can almost do no wrong. Even your mistakes work out. When it's going against you, nothing works out. That game was weird in that it felt like the Bucks were in control of the game thru 3 qtrs, and was on the verge of blowing it out with one or two explosive plays. Then the 4th came around and Big Mo shifted. You see that in basketball more where a team controls the game for a half or so, and then Mo shifts dramatically, but it's rarer in football.

    3) I have quite a few buddies who focus on the horseshit horse collar call and the not called PI. I keep telling them they sound like PSU fans. That did not lose the game. Poor execution at crucial times in all 3 phases lost the game. Ohio State had plenty of opportunities to overcome their own mistakes, the refs' mistakes, and the good play of PSU. They didn't. The one silver lining is that it may quell the conspiracy theory popular to our east that the B1G has the refs favor Ohio State and scUM over PSU - but I doubt it.

    4) I have a theory about what one of the weaknesses is of the Urban offense, and I believe it is wet and windy weather. I seem to recall a loss last year played in something similar to a hurricane. It grounds their passing game, and the coaches seem to believe that they can switch gears and play a slog game. But teams have identities that translate to what they do best and feel best about doing, and when the game is played in a 12 x 52 yard box, that's not what they are designed to do. That kind of weather can do that all by itself, and basically does half the work for the defense trying to stop them. Then Ohio State has to play left handed - a style they don't like - and the players seem to get frustrated. Simultaneously, it seems to help build confidence and momentum for the other guys. This is accentuated by the fact that OSU hasn't been able to stretch the field vertically for several games now and get their offense working in a 40-50 x 52 yard box, which is where they are most explosive and effective. But I think Urban needs to figure out a way to have the offense succeed in wet/windy conditions because I've lived in the Midwest a long time, and we tend to get that this time of year.

    5) Ohio State is fine - in the sense that all of their goals are intact. The margin for error is gone, but this was the time to lose if they were going to. Better at PSU than in EL or any time in Nov. They lost to Sparty last year, refocused, fixed some issues, got their heads right, and went on to destroy scUM and ND. If they respond the same way, all is well.
  15. Systems_id

    Systems_id Senior

    Yeah I'm not nearly as upset as I was last year. This was a bad loss no doubt, but like jaxbuck said, it was more of a combination of flukes that caused us to lose. To this day I believe someone was paid off in that Michigan State game. It's still the only logical explanation.
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