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OL Alex Boone (Official Thread)

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Reward and punishment can be equally effective tools for altering self-destructive behavior. If Boone understood that he had a problem, was punished by the courts and put on probation by the University, and took steps to address the root causes of his problem, then what is gained by suspending him from games?

Tressel put it into perspective very quickly for Alex. Alex has remained sober and has gone so far as to wear a badge for everyone to see he is remaining that way.

I think this young man deserves the opportunity to play with the 1's and I think his behavior represents Ohio State well.

Can't remember who said this or where I read it sometime this week, "It's not a sin to be knocked down, it's a sin to stay down."

Alex, well done! Now, go claim the future that is yours alone to claim.
 
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What is gained by suspending him is missed playing time and it sends a message to the rest of the players. Suspending him for three games is called for, imo, considering how badly he messed up. Again, it isn't just the one time he caused the accident. It is the multiple times he put others in danger with his actions of driving while drunk.

Game suspensions are the biggest penalty to a college football player. Getting put on probation is no fun but it isn't a tough penalty at all. Probation is no punishment at all assuming you live right the rest of the way...which is what he should be doing anyway.

I have family that go to Ohio State and guys like him put them in danger every time they do something that stupid. It shouldn't end his football career at OSU but I wish Tressell would have given him some type of punishment that is more than running a few sprints in order to send hom the message.
 
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G8erBait said:
What is gained by suspending him is missed playing time and it sends a message to the rest of the players. Suspending him for three games is called for, imo, considering how badly he messed up. Again, it isn't just the one time he caused the accident. It is the multiple times he put others in danger with his actions of driving while drunk.

Game suspensions are the biggest penalty to a college football player. Getting put on probation is no fun but it isn't a tough penalty at all. Probation is no punishment at all assuming you live right the rest of the way...which is what he should be doing anyway.

I have family that go to Ohio State and guys like him put them in danger every time they do something that stupid. It shouldn't end his football career at OSU but I wish Tressell would have given him some type of punishment that is more than running a few sprints in order to send hom the message.
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I respect your right to disagree, but I hardly see how punishing one person to send a message to others makes much sense. This is between Alex and the Ohio State coaching staff and University administration. He got the message: do that again and you are out of here. Everyone else got that message too. They also got the message when he was puking his guts out during the punishment workout. He's sober. He's doing the right things. So, I guess we disagree.
 
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G8erBait said:
.Again, it isn't just the one time he caused the accident. It is the multiple times he put others in danger with his actions of driving while drunk.



I have family that go to Ohio State and guys like him put them in danger every time they do something that stupid.


It shouldn't end his football career at OSU but I wish Tressell would have given him some type of punishment that is more than running a few sprints in order to send hom the message.
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1.) How is JT responsible for punishing Boone for everything he's done wrong in his past? Yes, he admitted that this was/is a problem that has been a major issue for him. And if it becomes a continued problem from this point on it appears the the consequences have been spelled out.

2.) I have family at Ohio State and Family in the Columbus area also. How does suspending him make our family members safer? The University, Coaching staff, and the Law (City of Columbus) have addressed the issue and (if he continues to "keep his nose clean") feel Boone has "paid his debt".

3.) Maybe you know more about it than what has been reported or discussed on the message boards, but how exactly do you know what the extent of Boone's punishment from the Team / Coaches was?

I'm not claiming that what Boone did wasn't very serious, and he needs to address this problem or else loosing his spot on the Buckeyes Football Team might end up being the least of his problems. But without knowing all the details of the situation (where the University, Coaches, and Courts do) I don't see sitting "from outside looking in" and proclaiming Boone's path back to the Team to be too lenient.
 
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I remember your offensive lineman getting into a fight last year. I believe it was Schaeffer...correct? After that incident Jim Tressell sat the entire team down (Boone included) and made the tough speach about how this was the warning for the team and from now on there will be a zero tolerance policy.

Well Boon admits to drinking and driving almost every weekend, causes an accident and gets cited for a DUI and he STILL doesn't even get a 1 game suspension? Where is the punishment in that? A warning and some extra sprints?

He may be doing the right things and I applaud him for that...if infact he is and remains sober. However that doesn't mean you go very light on the punishment. You don't give a guy a chance to prove himself before you really punish him. I mean surely there are a few OSU fans who are a little upset at the lack of punishment, especially with all of the stuff that has been going on recently.

I don't think he should be kicked off the team or even miss the season. However he did drink and drive multiple times and that is pretty bad. Imagine if Chad Henne went out and drank and drove multiple times and he wasn't suspended for the opening game. I am sure some of you guys would be up in arms. Heck, even Miami suspended multiple players for smaller violations for their biggest game of the year.

I guess I am just surprised at the lack of response from Jim Tressell in this situation. I just expected more.
 
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I think if this would have happened closer to the start of the season he would have been suspended indefinitely, but after having time to reflect on it, JT made the right decision. Suspending him would have given him the same message that he has gotten out of it already. "Do it again, and you're done!"
 
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I guess I am just surprised at the lack of response from Jim Tressell in this situation. I just expected more.
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You're suprised by the lack of public humiliation visited upon the player by his coach. Just because JT didn't publicly suspend Alex to meet your exacting standards doesn't mean there wasn't a response. If the lesson is that alcohol is bad for you I can think of few better ways than a day of sprints and pulls after drinking 24-36 beers. I got into the Jack Daniels when I was underage (admittedly I didn't go driving as well), and when my dad found out he didn't stop me, no he encouraged me to go ahead and drink up...I can't touch JD to this day without feeling sick. You want to talk punishment? Most prison camps would be lucky to strip 50lbs off a guy in a couple months, I don't think this was a carefree summer for Alex. But he seems to have made the right attitude adjustments, gotten sober, and worked his tail off.

I'd also like to give JT some credit for trying to turn his boys into young men instead of turning his boys into someone else's problem by kicking them off the team. I really believe JT sees the team as his family, and as a parent you don't go disowning your kids every time they screw up, you work with them and do what's best for them. You see a lack of discipline, I see a coach that's putting his players' interests first and I couldn't be more satisfied with the coach we have.
 
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Tressel will definitely give players a second chance-if they screw up again, ala Irizarry, they are gone. Given the changes that Boone himself has made, Tressel realizes that suspending him for a game, would, at this time, be water under the bridge, and ultimately meaningless. Having your OSU career flash before your eyes did a lot more for Boone in this case than knowing he would miss the NIU game.
 
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I guess my thought is that punishment serves the purpose of discouraging future behavior. If Tress believes Boone that he has learned his lesson and that he realizes that he has problems and has seeked out help, then I can understand why Tress would be a little more leniant with him in regards to the punishment. However, this means that the terms of him staying on the team must be strict and unwavering. If he is so much as seen with a beer in his hand, sober, drunk, or indifferent, the punishment must be swifter and harsher than if he had a stricter punishment initially.

I completely see your point G8terbait, however, I do think that there are exceptions to the politically correct way of doing things and this may be one. If he screws up again and he suddenly gets a 3 game suspension, then I agree with you. If he screws up again and he's gone (or a punishment much harsher than he would have received had he gotten the socially acceptable punishment in the first place), I think the punishment he received initially was just. And if he doesn't screw up and gets his life straight, I think it is a winning situation because ultimately the purpose of the punishment is to do just that, teach the kid a lesson that stays with him the rest of his life.
 
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I have never read an interview with a player like this. Could this interview have been some sort of punishment by Coach Tressel? That might be an odd thought, but it just seems wierd that Boone would be willing to answer questions and make statements like this publicly.
 
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Check out the new slim look :eek:

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