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Oversigning (capacity 25, everyone welcome! maybe)

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Buckeye Maniac;1859832; said:
That's the one place I've always wanted to visit.
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Here is a pic I took last year at the Grove.

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Maybe someone can help me clear away the fog......I have been of the belief that a five year scholarship is in reality five one-year scholarships. The university has the 'right' to not renew a scholarship on an annual basis. Now, it is bad faith if they do not, but if a kid is obviously out of their league, isn't it doing them a favor? On the flip side, if a kid doesn't pan out quite as well as the coaches had hoped, don't they have the right to 'cut' them? The SEC seems to make more use of this tactic than the rest of the nation, but I seem to recollect that this is 'legal' - not moral, but legal.

That the SEC has done this year after year, and still gets their quotas (plus) of good recruits is remarkable to me. If a coach makes an offer, and then the kid gets hurt, and then the coach pulls the offer, it gets around to avoid that school/coach. Why doesn't the one-year scholarship pull have the same impact? It seems to me that Alabama did that very thing with 8-10 kids 'losing' their scholarships when Saban came in and took over. Yes? or am I hallucinating this? If the SEC knows they have x slots and will cut y players from their scholarships, then that makes sense within their accepted framework of doing business.

Any thoughts, or am I thinking of something else? Personally, I believe that a coach should hold up their word of honor, and if a kid washes out, or gets injured in HS, then they honor their promise of a scholarship. After all, medical redshirts are available, but if the kid takes it, and then decides they still want to compete, then aren't they basically precluded from participating?


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jwinslow;1859734; said:
I am working on categorizing the various recruiting classes to break down who signed, left, when and why, with some help from our other fanbases here.

one part of the table records whether they left early and why, grades, nfl, behavior, pt, etc.

gator and others, what should I do with the redshirt juniors who do not return for a fifth year? Those guys got their four year scholarship and many did so with degrees. Should I count those in with the benchwarmer who stays for all five years?
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Just make the separate category and we'll look at all of the numbers and see if we see any trends one way or another.
 
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Gatorubet;1860344; said:
How do you know that they won't have 4 guys not qualify or go elsewhere, etc.?
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I don't. The fact that they have 30 right now while still pursuing other players, is just a shady thing to me, especially with the limit that the SEC/NCAA(I don't remember which one) put. If they lose some of the commitments I won't be as upset about it.
 
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This was the topic on sports radio for the ride home tonight. It's gone national (if it wasn't before). The two hosts were split to a degree. The former CFB and NFL player doesn't believe there needs to be any regulation on this issue. It's business. The other host doesn't feel right about oversigning, but doesn't have enough info to make an informed decision.
 
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GeorgiaBuck2;1860384; said:
So why the fuck does the sec not have a limit?

This is a question I'm sure I can find in this thread, just don't feel like looking for it.
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They do have a limit, but it's on the number of enrollees, not the number of offers. There's also no limit or guidelines on how they get from number of offers to the number of enrollees. Therein lies the rub.

Tonight's information brought to you by Steve Spurrier-
NCAA rules allow you to sign 28 & bring in 25. We're going to sign 28.
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Took a quick look at South Carolina's rooster from this year and it looks like they had 17 Seniors listed and they only have 1 junior going to the draft early. So if the rooster and draft list are correct they have 18 openings for the 30(?) commitments/28 signees.

2010 Rooster
http://gamecocksonline.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/scar-m-footbl-mtt.html

Juniors Declaring for the draft.
http://thenationalfootballreport.com/?p=2120

Edit of my edit. I was thinking it mattered if they had openings from last years recruiting class which was 22 but if there are only 18 openings it doesn't matter.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/southcarolina/football/recruiting/commitments/2010/southcarolina-70
 
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