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jakenick06
Hall of Fame
Definitely - The overwhelmingly high amount of soft tissue injuries over the last 3 years coupled with the stretches in the second halves of games where there's little to no push on both sides of the line absolutely boggles my mind how there isn't more heat here. I wish I could remember when/where/and in what context, but even @Ramzy wrote something about S&C that validated my thoughts (or at least that's how I remember it).
Edit: Just got caught up in the Ryan Day thread and LMAOOOO the heat on Marotti does in fact exist..at least from a message board standpoint
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
The NCAA mandates the amount to time for required practices, here is how Georgia Tech addresses it:
https://ramblinwreck.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/defining-cara.pdf
I'm sure Ohio State has something similar.
Note: There are two categories of weight training:
1) Required weight-training and conditioning activities.
2) Voluntary weight training not conducted by a coach or staff member.
With all the demands on the student-athlete's time that include; accidemics, sport related games/practices/meetings etc., family, social life, and NIL appearances/requirements, etc. I'm guessing that the amount of time they devote to "voluntary weight training not conducted by a coach or staff member" is a lot less than it was years ago.
https://ramblinwreck.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/defining-cara.pdf
I'm sure Ohio State has something similar.
Note: There are two categories of weight training:
1) Required weight-training and conditioning activities.
2) Voluntary weight training not conducted by a coach or staff member.
With all the demands on the student-athlete's time that include; accidemics, sport related games/practices/meetings etc., family, social life, and NIL appearances/requirements, etc. I'm guessing that the amount of time they devote to "voluntary weight training not conducted by a coach or staff member" is a lot less than it was years ago.
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AuTX Buckeye
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Glad everyone's joining me on the Mick's gotta go bandwagon I was kicking around last year .... I think Mick is part of the rot in the WHAC that needs to get removed and start fresh...
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Interesting article on scUM's strength & conditioning coach:
Speaking on “In the Trenches,” Herbert explained how he keeps Michigan players uncomfortable in order to help them grow.
“In training, I believe that there has to be a level of consistency, right? We want the guys — we want them physically and mentally to be able to adapt to what they're doing,” he said. “But I never want this sense of comfort — especially mental comfort. They never know what they're doing when they come into the room. I shouldn’t say ‘never’; rarely do they know. People in general, they want to know what is in store in their life, just in general, what's to come, what's going to happen, so I can plan for it. In this game, that’s not a luxury that we have.”
DT Kris Jenkins offered an example: Herbert will select a random player and instruct them to beat their personal record at a certain drill. If he cannot, everyone on the team has to run conditioning. That teaches how “you never know when your name is going to be called,” and your response to that challenge will matter.
Case in point: When Herbert and the Wolverines landed at Penn State before a top-10 showdown, they learned the Big Ten had suspended Jim Harbaugh. But the Wolverines didn’t flinch — even in the moments after they first heard the news.
“There's circumstances that we’ll create in the offseason to simulate. And you always want the simulation to carry over to real life,” Herbert said. “Now, there's times when, like I tell our guys, we may not be blessed with this adversity.
“Remember I say, ‘We may not be blessed.’ It's a blessing. This adversity is a blessing to us all. And I want them to see it like that.
“But I'll never forget: You find out on the plane at Penn State, and I'm coming down the stairs and there's some people standing at the bottom. And I was talking to a few people and then see some guys coming down the stairs. And I'm just looking. I just look right in their eyes. Look at them and they just give me this smirk — like this little smile. And I'm just smiling back, just a subtle smile. And we just know.
“I'm sitting with some guys at dinner that night and we just got this grin on our face because we've been blessed with this opportunity — what people call adversity. This uncomfortable, potentially detrimental circumstance that now we get to overcome. And it's an incredible opportunity. And then to go and do what we've done, there’s no better lesson learned that will pay dividends for us with the young men in this program into the future. It's incredible.”
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Ben Herbert explains how Michigan football handled adversity this season
Jim Harbaugh has called Ben Herbert the “X factor” in Michigan football’s recent success, and the Director of Strength and Conditioning explained this week how he prepares the Wolverines to face any obstacle.Speaking on “In the Trenches,” Herbert explained how he keeps Michigan players uncomfortable in order to help them grow.
“In training, I believe that there has to be a level of consistency, right? We want the guys — we want them physically and mentally to be able to adapt to what they're doing,” he said. “But I never want this sense of comfort — especially mental comfort. They never know what they're doing when they come into the room. I shouldn’t say ‘never’; rarely do they know. People in general, they want to know what is in store in their life, just in general, what's to come, what's going to happen, so I can plan for it. In this game, that’s not a luxury that we have.”
DT Kris Jenkins offered an example: Herbert will select a random player and instruct them to beat their personal record at a certain drill. If he cannot, everyone on the team has to run conditioning. That teaches how “you never know when your name is going to be called,” and your response to that challenge will matter.
Case in point: When Herbert and the Wolverines landed at Penn State before a top-10 showdown, they learned the Big Ten had suspended Jim Harbaugh. But the Wolverines didn’t flinch — even in the moments after they first heard the news.
“There's circumstances that we’ll create in the offseason to simulate. And you always want the simulation to carry over to real life,” Herbert said. “Now, there's times when, like I tell our guys, we may not be blessed with this adversity.
“Remember I say, ‘We may not be blessed.’ It's a blessing. This adversity is a blessing to us all. And I want them to see it like that.
“But I'll never forget: You find out on the plane at Penn State, and I'm coming down the stairs and there's some people standing at the bottom. And I was talking to a few people and then see some guys coming down the stairs. And I'm just looking. I just look right in their eyes. Look at them and they just give me this smirk — like this little smile. And I'm just smiling back, just a subtle smile. And we just know.
“I'm sitting with some guys at dinner that night and we just got this grin on our face because we've been blessed with this opportunity — what people call adversity. This uncomfortable, potentially detrimental circumstance that now we get to overcome. And it's an incredible opportunity. And then to go and do what we've done, there’s no better lesson learned that will pay dividends for us with the young men in this program into the future. It's incredible.”
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I will blame Marotti for me spamming the LSU Football and Baseball threads with pics of tomato gumbo.
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Captain Buckeye
Legend
I love coach Mick and I don’t think he’s the issue.
That said he’s been here for 12 years now? Sometimes it’s good to shake it up.
I wouldn’t call him part of the “rot” but sometimes change helps.
That said he’s been here for 12 years now? Sometimes it’s good to shake it up.
I wouldn’t call him part of the “rot” but sometimes change helps.
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sg86
Heisman
Eh, S&C is something that continues to evolve and I don’t know that Mick has evolved with it. Our OL is stiff. Our DE’s don’t seem to have much bend on their rushes. Our speed at non skill positions seems on the decline. I think Mick specializes in brute strength and it’s really functional strength that rules the game now. A lot of the new age stuff focuses on flexibility and I’m not really sure that’s Mick’s forte.
And aside from that, the number of soft tissue injuries alone justifies replacement.
Mick was VERY good at what he did for a long time. But it’s a blessing and a curse because there’s always going to be a time where what you do has evolved and it’s hard for guys like Mick to abandon the program that got them to where they are.
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BuckBackHome
Wolverine is largest member of weasel family
In case you were worried the team was kicking back and relaxing.
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