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Should semipro/college players be paid, or allowed to sell their stuff? (NIL)

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Delany sounds off on pay-for-play issue - ESPN Big Ten Blog

ROSEMONT, Ill. -- You already know Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany is among the most vocal opponents of a pay-for-play system in college sports.

You also should know Delany is among the more vocal advocates for increasing the value of athletic scholarships so athletes can cover basic costs and enjoy their college experiences more, while putting their families more at ease. He was the first power broker to propose them in May 2011. These types of changes should come soon, as major conferences are on the verge of a significant restructuring. In fact, Delany said he expects a restructuring plan to be in place by next spring.
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Just had a thought: What about letting some college athletes opt out of the scholarship model in order to market themselves individually? Let players make whatever they can from endorsements etc., but then make them pay their own way for school/food/housing, as well as still requiring them to maintain basic academic standards for on-the-field eligibility. This way the sky's the limit for the top players who think they can do better than the current model allows them, but otherwise keeps the current system (and amateur/student-athlete status) in place for the vast majority of scholarship athletes who really can't do any better than the full ride with all the perks they get now.
 
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Coqui said:
I'm sure I've said this in this thread before, but, it doesn't matter how much you pay them, people will always take more money.
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This.

What I don't understand is why there isn't middle ground talk going on? It seems that its going to be either:

Model A: Leave the current system in place and press on
or
Model B: Pay-for-play system. Bid on players and their use for your school.

Why is there no Model C, for just giving scholarship players a few bucks on miscellaneous items. You could then attach to it a contract that the player MUST remain in passing standards for their college classes and be on track to graduate by their senior year. This would satisfy the players need for some spending cash, and also put their college scholarship to good use and better the player in life after his/her college days.
 
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EA Sports settles lawsuit for 50M. Players just got paid, and it is supposed to include current athletes that have their name in the games. This is officially the beginning of the end of college sports. Well, the Johnny Football crap last year was the beginning, this is where it takes off though. Now players know that they can sue the NCAA and possibly the school. And they did it for a whopping 50M/250,000= $160 each. WOO HOOO they are RICH! Good thing it was worth it. It was all talk, now there is money backing the talk, they have no idea the shit storm that they just started for $160.
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
EA Sports settles lawsuit for 50M. Players just got paid, and it is supposed to include current athletes that have their name in the games. This is officially the beginning of the end of college sports. Well, the Johnny Football crap last year was the beginning, this is where it takes off though. Now players know that they can sue the NCAA and possibly the school. And they did it for a whopping 50M/250,000= $160 each. WOO HOOO they are RICH! Good thing it was worth it. It was all talk, now there is money backing the talk, they have no idea the [Mark May] storm that they just started for $160.
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Kinda sucks since EA won't make a college football game now. If it was on the PC we could play with some kind of mod forever.
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
EA Sports settles lawsuit for 50M. Players just got paid, and it is supposed to include current athletes that have their name in the games. This is officially the beginning of the end of college sports. Well, the Johnny Football crap last year was the beginning, this is where it takes off though. Now players know that they can sue the NCAA and possibly the school. And they did it for a whopping 50M/250,000= $160 each. WOO HOOO they are RICH! Good thing it was worth it. It was all talk, now there is money backing the talk, they have no idea the [Mark May] storm that they just started for $160.
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If college sports are ruined by paying the people that actually provide the entertainment being sold, it was too corrupt to begin with.
 
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SEREbuckeye said:
This.

What I don't understand is why there isn't middle ground talk going on? It seems that its going to be either:

Model A: Leave the current system in place and press on
or
Model B: Pay-for-play system. Bid on players and their use for your school.

Why is there no Model C, for just giving scholarship players a few bucks on miscellaneous items. You could then attach to it a contract that the player MUST remain in passing standards for their college classes and be on track to graduate by their senior year. This would satisfy the players need for some spending cash, and also put their college scholarship to good use and better the player in life after his/her college days.
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And the debt issues at the schools that aren't the royalty of college football will become even more pronounced.

Besides, the scumbag lawyers just went after a fucking video game. Do you honestly think that if any plans to pay only football players would ever be enacted because someone will (rightfully) bring up Title IX and how all college athletes will need to be paid, just for fairness and equality. It's a virtual certainty.

College sports are all but dead. The clock is about to strike midnight, and there's nothing left but the waiting for it now.
 
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Mike80 said:
And the debt issues at the schools that aren't the royalty of college football will become even more pronounced.

Besides, the scumbag lawyers just went after a fucking video game. Do you honestly think that if any plans to pay only football players would ever be enacted because someone will (rightfully) bring up Title IX and how all college athletes will need to be paid, just for fairness and equality. It's a virtual certainty.

College sports are all but dead. The clock is about to strike midnight, and there's nothing left but the waiting for it now.
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This seems a bit extreme to me. How long before CFB stops entirely?
 
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BUCKYLE said:
This seems a bit extreme to me. How long before CFB stops entirely?
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CFB won't stop entirely, at least not at the D-2 and D-3 levels and maybe the FCS level.

But at some point, especially if stuff gets enacted where players are being paid, you're going to see a ton of FBS schools drop schollies entirely and go down a division or two.

Like I said, it won't be Ohio State. but it will be teams that are already facing a serious debt load who either can't support paying players or will not support paying players.
 
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And it's not extreme in the slightest to think that the moment they start paying college football players that someone will bring a lawsuit claming title IX is being violated and that women's players should be paid just the same as the men's football players. It will happen. Just watch.
 
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Here's what you do:

You tell football players or whoever that if they think they can get someone to pay their way, they agree to an academic schedule that they must adhere too, and do not offer them scholarship money in any way, shape or form. If they can't get paid, they don't go to school. Simple. If they DO want to go to school, they agree to never take money on pain of getting kicked out of school immediately and they are a normal student.

Scholarships are still there for everyone, but they have to agree never to take any money at all for anything. This can be the same across all sports and might save some schools some cash in the end.

However, this idea is farrrrr too easy to enact and way too logical for the NCAA to ever adopt.
 
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and I'll miss not being able to get NCAA 15 next year - having the playoff within the game would have been awesome. Oh well....maybe they'll patch NCAA 14 to include it later on....one can hope, right?
 
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Mike80 said:
And it's not extreme in the slightest to think that the moment they start paying college football players that someone will bring a lawsuit claming title IX is being violated and that women's players should be paid just the same as the men's football players. It will happen. Just watch.
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I don't doubt it. The true powers of CFB should have been in a separate division since schollie limits were enacted. It hasn't been fair since the big boys started building 75k+ stadiums and the facilities arms race began.

How much more will each B1G school make after the next round of tv contract negotiations? I'm gonna guess enough to give every student athlete a chunk while maintaining everything else just fine.

It sounds like all of the shit people said when the cubs signed Ryne Sandberg to ten mil a year.

The major athletic departments are making more money every year. There's no way they're scraping by. I mean tOSU has had many sports for a long time. It seems after the next tv deal, the income should surpass expenses by a wide margin.
 
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