TE Jake Stoneburner (Official Thread)

[Sportsbuck28]

I feel pretty confident in saying this won't go to trial. They will probably plea out to a lower charge.

 

[leroyjenkins]

The most readily learned lesson from the incident report is this...don't talk to the police. Stoney is the only one to have admitted to urinating in public...and is the only one charged with it. There is literally nothing good that can come from talking to police. I can't condone running, but I also can't condone talking to police. Ever. As for obstructing justice...if all 3 take it to trial, I would like to see if there are common sense resources to prosecute such utter BS misdemeanors.

Correct

 

[woofermazing]

The most readily learned lesson from the incident report is this...don't talk to the police. Stoney is the only one to have admitted to urinating in public...and is the only one charged with it. There is literally nothing good that can come from talking to police. I can't condone running, but I also can't condone talking to police. Ever. As for obstructing justice...if all 3 take it to trial, I would like to see if there are common sense resources to prosecute such utter BS misdemeanors.

Give em time. Soil samples were collected and sent to the Shawnee Hills Crime Lab for DNA analysis.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

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[Fungo Squiggly]

While this is true, if the officers didn't see them urinating, then they didn't have probable cause to stop them from running.

It [censored]es me off that simply running from the police would somehow be evidence of a crime having been committed and yet they have no idea what crime may have been committed.

We give the police a lot of power and we wonder why people run from them.

If they were trespassing on school grounds, would that be enough to warrant stopping them?

Regardless, nothing good happens after 10 PM.

 

[jlb1705]

Regardless, nothing good happens after 10 PM.

Bullcrap. That's when Archer airs.

 

[OH10]

If they were trespassing on school grounds, would that be enough to warrant stopping them?

Regardless, nothing good happens after 10 PM.

I don't know. If was a public alley, no.

And if it wasn't for bad things happening after 10 P.M., my college experience would have been really boring. I honestly couldn't care less about what Stoneburner and Mewhort did here. I do think they should be placed on a shortleash though because the incident has been embarrassing for the university and they're supposed to be leaders. But getting caught doing something we all did? No problem if it doesn't happen again.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

I don't know. If was a public alley, no.

And if it wasn't for bad things happening after 10 P.M., my college experience would have been really boring. I honestly couldn't care less about what Stoneburner and Mewhort did here. I do think they should be placed on a shortleash though because the incident has been embarrassing for the university and they're supposed to be leaders. But getting caught doing something we all did? No problem if it doesn't happen again.

Oh, I absolutely agree that it's not a big deal and the guys shouldn't be severely punished. The charges are silly. Ticket them for the public urination, scold them for running, and everyone's lives move on.

I just don't fault the police for chasing some kids who were wandering their town at 2AM and took off running when confronted about a minor offense.

 

[maximumblitz]

Obstruction is a bull[Mark May], vague statute that can apply to almost any sort of annoyance that the public expects that the police will have to endure, especially from anyone who may be intoxicated. It is overcharged all the time.

Take these cases to jury every time. You will not get a unanimous verdict of wrongdoing if it is that much bull[Mark May].

I am neither an attorney nor a police officer, but as I geek my way through life, I find that the Ohio Revised Code says that a speedy trial for a second degree misdemeanor means less than 90 days:
http://www.jdrlaw.com/ohiocriminalattorney/speedy-trial.html
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2945.71

So football players do not get justice. Putting it in front of a jury could rob them of the first 5 games of the season.

This happened with Henton. He copped a plea, then said he didn't do it. A spokesman from the police dept was interviews by the Dispatch and said "well why did he cop a plea"? My guess is that Henton did not want to lose his season.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I am neither an attorney nor a police officer, but as I geek my way through life, I find that the Ohio Revised Code says that a speedy trial for a second degree misdemeanor means less than 90 days:
http://www.jdrlaw.com/ohiocriminalattorney/speedy-trial.html
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2945.71

So football players do not get justice. Putting it in front of a jury could rob them of the first 5 games of the season.

This happened with Henton. He copped a plea, then said he didn't do it. A spokesman from the police dept was interviews by the Dispatch and said "well why did he cop a plea"? My guess is that Henton did not want to lose his season.

Stoney was arrested on Jun 2nd. The codes link you provided states a speedy trial for a first or second degree misdemeanor must be within 90 days of the arrest (or service of summons, but no summons in this case). If my math is correct, 90 days from Jun 2nd is Aug 31st. I don't see him missing the first five games if his trial has to start by Aug 31st at the latest.

(2) Within ninety days after the person’s arrest or the service of summons, if the offense charged is a misdemeanor of the first or second degree, or other misdemeanor for which the maximum penalty is imprisonment for more than sixty days.

 

[maximumblitz]

Stoney was arrested on Jun 2nd. The codes link you provided states a speedy trial for a first or second degree misdemeanor must be within 90 days of the arrest (or service of summons, but no summons in this case). If my math is correct, 90 days from Jun 2nd is Aug 31st. I don't see him missing the first five games if his trial has to start by Aug 31st at the latest.

Thanks for the math correction. Ouch! But I feel relieved! I am going to keep buying turbotax.

 

[WoodyWorshiper]

If they were trespassing on school grounds, would that be enough to warrant stopping them?

Regardless, nothing good happens after 10 PM.

It is now 12:40am on Wednesday at my house. In the past 2 Hours and 40 minutes I've managed to get drunk, have a delicious french dip sandwich at the local eatery, get laid, and watch the Miami Heat lose the first game of the finals. Au Contrare, thats 4 pretty damn good things that happened after 10:00pm

Peace:cheers:

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

It is now 12:40am on Wednesday at my house. In the past 2 Hours and 40 minutes I've managed to get drunk, have a delicious french dip sandwich at the local eatery, get laid, and watch the Miami Heat lose the first game of the finals. Au Contrare, thats 4 pretty damn good things that happened after 10:00pm

Peace:cheers:

 

[schwab]

It is now 12:40am on Wednesday at my house. In the past 2 Hours and 40 minutes I've managed to get drunk, have a delicious french dip sandwich at the local eatery, get laid, and watch the Miami Heat lose the first game of the finals. Au Contrare, thats 4 pretty damn good things that happened after 10:00pm

Peace:cheers:

Rep this Buckeye

 

[MD Buckeye]

http://www.cleveland.com/buckeyeblog/index.ssf/2012/06/ohio_state_football_players_ja.html

Ohio State football players Jake Stoneburner, Jack Mewhort lose scholarships for summer, could be back for season

COLUMBUS - Ohio State football players Jake Stoneburner and Jack Mewhort have lost their scholarships for the summer, will pay their own way for summer school and will have a chance to return to the football team, and to their scholarships, after the summer session.

Ohio State released a statement from coach Urban Meyer about those plans to the Plain Dealer on Friday night after the players had their court case settled. The players entered guilty pleas Friday to the lesser charge of disorderly conduct, according to the Delaware Municipal Court website, after they originally were charged by Shawnee Hills police with obstructing official business on June 2. Police believed the players were urinating on a building and the players initially ran when confronted by officers early that Saturday morning.

Meyer had announced on June 4 that they were suspended indefinitely. Stoneburner, a senior tight end, and Mewhort, a junior left tackle, are both key starters for the OSU offense.

"We are disappointed with the decisions made recently by two of our football players," Meyer said in the statement Friday. "Jake Stoneburner and Jack Mewhort will each be removed from athletic scholarship beginning with the summer term, and they will continue to be suspended from team activities until stipulations are successfully met. They will have an opportunity to return to the team in good standing following the summer session."

According to Ohio State, both Stoneburner and Mewhort will be allowed to work out at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center, but they will not be working out with any other Buckeyes. Stoneburner, for one, talked after spring football about looking forward to throwing often with quarterback Braxton Miller this summer. Now that won't happen, at least at the WHAC.

The players initially entered not guilty pleas for their scheduled arraignments this past Monday. The Delaware Municipal Court website now shows those guilty pleas to disorderly conduct, with the status of the cases indicating that they are finished. Both players are listed as owing $299 in fines and court costs.