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TE Marcus Baugh (Birmingham Stallions)

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AJHawkfan said:
I've been guilty of underage drinking at least 1,000 times in my life, and never got cited once. How you can get three in a year is mind boggling to me......

On the bright side, at least it's "only" alcohol and not weed or worse......

I'm all for giving second (and third) chances, but enough is enough. Time to move on.
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You were guilty yourself hundreds of times, but three (demonstrated) occasions for this kid is enough to jettison him?

I'm leaving this decision up to the coaches, because we as fans don't know enough to be voicing opinions one way or the other. (Edit - it's not like my opinion matters here as it relates to Marcus's future at tOSU; the coaches' decision obviously prevails.)
 
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Interesting thoughts from dad. Would love to see a turn around story here.......

Something tells me that if Marcus is truly remorseful and comes clean with Urban he won't be kicked off the team. I may be wrong but it wouldn't surprise me if it turned out that way. For that to happen though Marcus will surely have to level with Urban and coach will have to feel like it's sincere and that by staying in school it will help him turn the ship around. What I do NOT expect to happen is for Urb to put up with crap from any player just because they can contribute to the on field success. I think he is totally over that.
 
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Fuck. Just fuck. I know I had my fair share of alcohol under age but after the second time, I would call it quits on drinking for awhile if I had the opportunity that he has. He certainly needs a suspension and a clear warning that he is on his last opportunity here. And that is what I am guessing will happen.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
When you get busted a second time after having the law laid down to you by the football staff, and likely by the school administration, you may indeed have a problem...
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Only if you think a 19-year old acting like a 19-year old qualifies as having a problem.

The fact is that no one here or in the brain trust that is the 11W comments section knows what's going on with Marcus. Assuming that he has an alcohol problem or that he's "fighting demons" or whatever based on him getting popped for simple consumption is ridiculous.
 
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I'd be surprised to see him booted. I realize this isn't his first offense, but it's not he got locked up for assault, burglary, drugs, weapons charge, etc. I'm sure he'll have a price to pay, but I don't expect him to be gone.
 
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MaxBuck said:
You were guilty yourself hundreds of times, but three (demonstrated) occasions for this kid is enough to jettison him?

I'm leaving this decision up to the coaches, because we as fans don't know enough to be voicing opinions one way or the other. (Edit - it's not like my opinion matters here as it relates to Marcus's future at tOSU; the coaches' decision obviously prevails.)
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To be fair, I don't find the alcohol itself that disturbing... it's the fact that he got caught 3 times that makes me wonder wtf he was doing. In my extensive experience with underage drinking in the military, it's usually the type who can't handle it that get caught. The kind of person who has a shot of whiskey in the evening or drinks a couple beers with friends almost never gets caught -- much less 3 times. It's the guy cart-wheeling down the middle of the street, the guy who gets home and immediately chugs a box of wine and starts running through the halls naked, or takes shots at lunch or even at work. All stuff I've witnessed. It's usually people who show serious signs of alcoholism that get caught.
Not that I'm saying that's the case here, but that's where my mind goes.

That said, agree 100% on the second part.
Much respect to his father after reading what he said too.
 
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Buckeye513 said:
Only if you think a 19-year old acting like a 19-year old qualifies as having a problem.
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The problem is that he can't stop drinking even when he knows there'll be dire consequences. You can't just simply blow this off as "acting like a 19-year old ". The 19-year olds in the military are held by higher standards, and are punished for underaged drinking...they don't get away with stuff just because they're 19 years old. Similarly, while college football players shouldn't be held to quite as high a standard as are military personnel, they still are expected to have a higher standard of behavior than the general student population...
 
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muffler dragon said:
Judgmental much? Jeebus. :shake:
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I am just putting out what I see on the surface. I know he is still a young pup but you have to be more mature. At least get wasted outside the public eye. Clarette started off with an alcohol problem and look at the path it led him to.

I just wish the kid the best and want him to take this great opportunity that he has. Why throw it away because of stupidity? Maybe Urban needs to have Clarette sit down and talk to him.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
The problem is that he can't stop drinking even when he knows there'll be dire consequences. You can't just simply blow this off as "acting like a 19-year old ". The 19-year olds in the military are held by higher standards, and are punished for underaged drinking...they don't get away with stuff just because they're 19 years old. Similarly, while college football players shouldn't be held to quite as high a standard as are military personnel, they still are expected to have a higher standard of behavior than the general student population...
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My brother went into the military after high school. Did more drinking and smoking than he'd ever done in his life. Alcoholism in the military is very common.
 
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Buckeye513 said:
Only if you think a 19-year old acting like a 19-year old qualifies as having a problem.

The fact is that no one here or in the brain trust that is the 11W comments section knows what's going on with Marcus. Assuming that he has an alcohol problem or that he's "fighting demons" or whatever based on him getting popped for simple consumption is ridiculous.
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I don't think this is the typical case of a '19 year old acting like a 19 year old'. This is a 19 year old who is having his third recent run in while on a full scholarship and already being kept a close eye on due to those previous issues. I'd feel safe in saying the majority of 19 year old's in college do not have this many issues in such a short time, let alone those who are on a full scholarship and have a lot to lose, let alone fearing the wrath of the coaching staff.

I agree it's a far leap in logic to say he has any sort of deeper seeded issues and only damages him personally when those accustations get thrown around, but I definitely don't think it's a leap in logic to say that Marcus needs to use far, far, far better judgement with his life decisions.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
The problem is that he can't stop drinking even when he knows there'll be dire consequences. You can't just simply blow this off as "acting like a 19-year old ". The 19-year olds in the military are held by higher standards, and are punished for underaged drinking...they don't get away with stuff just because they're 19 years old. Similarly, while college football players shouldn't be held to quite as high a standard as are military personnel, they still are expected to have a higher standard of behavior than the general student population...
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Alcoholism isn't the problem, immaturity is. He knows what he's doing is bad, he just doesn't care.
 
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I remember being a 19 year old in the military and swearing to all that is holy, an many an occasion, that I will never touch another drop of beer again in my life. Underage drinking is not the biggest of deals.
 
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