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Yeah so like basically they would change the time so more stations can broadcast it?
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EdgarStyles
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The Cal-USC game is the night game for Nov 18th. I'd be very surprised if they would put THE GAME on at the same time. I'm sure they could move the Cal-USC game to 3:30 if they wanted to, but that wouldn't make any sense since it's a west coast game. 3:30 is late enough, considering most tOSU students will start pre-gamming that Thursday for the mirror-lake jump.
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OSU Knights
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Okay so you think that they will keep THE GAME at the same time it is originally suppose to start at?
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OmahaBeef
Intergalactic Planetary Planetary Intergalactic
Edgar brings up a good point, but it would seem that the USC - Cal game would be the only thing to stop the Michigan game from going primetime.
Its not that it would get more stations to carry the game, its the amount of money ABC would get from ads that would motivate changing the time of the game. If you put a game at primetime it will get more viewers which means advertisers are willing to pay more money.
Its not that it would get more stations to carry the game, its the amount of money ABC would get from ads that would motivate changing the time of the game. If you put a game at primetime it will get more viewers which means advertisers are willing to pay more money.
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If USC drops one this game becomes THE mother-lode. The 'real' NC game wont hold a candle to it. The networks pray for seasons where there are only two major conference undefeateds playing for the title. To have that game between two of the biggest rivals in CFB would make this one for the ages.
I don't know how much ABC would be able to increase its profit margin by going to a night game but I am sure it would be multiples of seven figures.
Should that happen, win or lose you couldn't pay me to pull police duty on campus after the game. The drunkards and hooligans absolutely will give Cbus a black eye.
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OmahaBeef
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Oh8ch;635701; said:
lol, I've heard multiple students joking (or maybe not so much) about just rushing back into their dorm room and locking the door behind them to avoid the riots after we beat Michigan. Seriously though, I really hope things dont get out of hand. It would be a shame to have something like the distract from the result of what will be a great game.
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rocketman
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The police presence after the '04 win was ridiculous. Any group of people gathering anywhere between Lane and 9th was broken up by the police. The city seemed like it was under marshall law. Absolutely nothing happened that night, it was surreal. I highly doubt anything happens just because the police won't let anything happen. It sucks that it has to be that way, but after 2002, what would you expect?
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OSU Knights;635584; said:
Uh, the reason they moved from noon to 3:30 was so that it would be the main nationally game (which was stupid in the first place because it was the main game when it was a noon game anyway).
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seed702
A dyin' breed.
Why our chances are so good on November 18
It doesn't matter if both teams run the table or not, these teams already have the nation looking at November 18. Everywhere you turn, a post game wrap-up turns into a preamble about how big it's going to be.
I hope they do end up being undefeated going into the game. I would be a fool to say it doesn't worry me, and an even bigger fool to say I'm not looking ahead.
I get kinda nervous thinking about the magnitude of these games, but several things are calming about THE GAME this year:
1. We have Jim Tressel - They don't. Lloyd knows he's been outcoached the last 5 years, even in 2003, the Buckeyes didn't go away in that game easily. Lloyd knows that was a day where his team needed everything to go right, and it did. That was a great Michigan team, possibly the best he's had since Tressel arrived in Columbus. Also, I'm amazed because the playbook this year is considerably farther away from the vest compared to recent years, and when you keep in mind that Tress always has something special for Michigan, so considering what we've run this year, the possibilities are endless. I'm calling it now: flee-flicker.
2. We're battle-tested - We've been beaten at home by a better team, and those kids remember what it felt like to sing Carmen, Ohio on 10-10-05. They don't want it to happen again. The big-game atmosphere is nothing new to this team, and contrary to popular opinion, Michigan doesn't have that feather in their cap yet. Michigan/ND was NOT a hostile atmosphere, regardless of what ANYONE says.
3. Attitudes and Egos - There are none. No one is looking ahead to Michigan, and I don't know Troy personally as some of you might, but I'd bet my life to win $1 that he makes certain that no one takes a play off without getting their ass chewed, doesn't matter if it's Texas, Bowling Green or any one of the four games coming up. Read all 7 of the mid-week press conferences. Players who are interviewed will comment on the success of the previous week, but immediately switch gears and discuss things they can get better at and improve. It's almost like they were all given an injection of Tressellogic at the beginning of this season.
4. Business-like Approach - Although it's just a game, and it's 20 year-olds executing the gameplan, they are mature beyond their years when it comes to conduct on the football field. Outside of a couple of guys getting their first sniff of paydirt and letting their emotions overcome them, they act like they've been there before. Herbie noted after both Texas and Iowa wins, where teams would be ecstatic escaping with the win, both times, the teams shook hands, hustled into the locker room, showered and changed, and boarded the charter within a few hours. It really seems like they've bought into all aspects of Jim Tressel's efficiency-laden program. This speaks volumes about the top-notch coaching staff, and their ability to prepare players for emotionally charged situation. This might be one of the most unsung positive aspects of this team, the ability to control emotions. Watch Gonzo/Ginn/Pittman after ever big gain that's NOT a TD. There is NO celebration outside of a helmet slap before it's back in the huddle to go back to work. The job isn't done yet. It's one of the most amazing things I've seen. No Miami-esque first down signals, no dropping the ball and dancing, no jumping around. Business like.
5. Under the radar - Now before you perk up and ask how could OSU be possibly under the radar, hear me out. Since this isn't LSU, Clemson, or Auburn, we don't have gaudy scores like 63-0, 56-7, etc. They've scored 38 points once this season, and could have easily run up the score on 4 of the 7 opponents. Everyone knows this team is good, but that's an understatement. UM has Michigan St. at home and won by 18. We went to East lansing and won by 31. Then UM went to PSU and won by 7, and we beat them by 22 in the 'Shoe. Granted, there are storylines for all of those games, but that's what the scoreboard reads. We might see some fine-tuning the next 4 weeks, but we won't see how good this offense really can be until November 18. Tressel will zip up the offense considerably, and we should still win each game by a good margin, but not by as much as we could. scUM can look at all the film they want to, but like someone said earlier, it really doesn't hold water. 7 games into the season, we've really only shown the talent level of this team twice.
Now that I've spewed a little bit, I can relax. I read this thread twice today, and I'm pumped. But I've taken the same approach that the team does. We have Indiana this week. Regardless of what we'd all love to fast-forward to, I'm forcing myself to act like the team around my friends and co-workers. No gloating, just saying they've done well, but have alot or work to do. This is the Big10. Indiana comes in riding a 2 game winning streak, with a mobile QB and a very good WR that will test our secondary. Save the Texas WR comments, because that's in the past. Part of why this team is so good is because they not only focus on the next opponent, they respect them. Did you see the MSU players running out to midfield on Saturday to protect the S? Nope, they knew Ohio State respected them.
Business-like, one game at a time. It's been working so far. I know we all want to talk about it. The only thing that matters to Ohio State Football right now is the Indiana Hoosiers.
It doesn't matter if both teams run the table or not, these teams already have the nation looking at November 18. Everywhere you turn, a post game wrap-up turns into a preamble about how big it's going to be.
I hope they do end up being undefeated going into the game. I would be a fool to say it doesn't worry me, and an even bigger fool to say I'm not looking ahead.
I get kinda nervous thinking about the magnitude of these games, but several things are calming about THE GAME this year:
1. We have Jim Tressel - They don't. Lloyd knows he's been outcoached the last 5 years, even in 2003, the Buckeyes didn't go away in that game easily. Lloyd knows that was a day where his team needed everything to go right, and it did. That was a great Michigan team, possibly the best he's had since Tressel arrived in Columbus. Also, I'm amazed because the playbook this year is considerably farther away from the vest compared to recent years, and when you keep in mind that Tress always has something special for Michigan, so considering what we've run this year, the possibilities are endless. I'm calling it now: flee-flicker.
2. We're battle-tested - We've been beaten at home by a better team, and those kids remember what it felt like to sing Carmen, Ohio on 10-10-05. They don't want it to happen again. The big-game atmosphere is nothing new to this team, and contrary to popular opinion, Michigan doesn't have that feather in their cap yet. Michigan/ND was NOT a hostile atmosphere, regardless of what ANYONE says.
3. Attitudes and Egos - There are none. No one is looking ahead to Michigan, and I don't know Troy personally as some of you might, but I'd bet my life to win $1 that he makes certain that no one takes a play off without getting their ass chewed, doesn't matter if it's Texas, Bowling Green or any one of the four games coming up. Read all 7 of the mid-week press conferences. Players who are interviewed will comment on the success of the previous week, but immediately switch gears and discuss things they can get better at and improve. It's almost like they were all given an injection of Tressellogic at the beginning of this season.
4. Business-like Approach - Although it's just a game, and it's 20 year-olds executing the gameplan, they are mature beyond their years when it comes to conduct on the football field. Outside of a couple of guys getting their first sniff of paydirt and letting their emotions overcome them, they act like they've been there before. Herbie noted after both Texas and Iowa wins, where teams would be ecstatic escaping with the win, both times, the teams shook hands, hustled into the locker room, showered and changed, and boarded the charter within a few hours. It really seems like they've bought into all aspects of Jim Tressel's efficiency-laden program. This speaks volumes about the top-notch coaching staff, and their ability to prepare players for emotionally charged situation. This might be one of the most unsung positive aspects of this team, the ability to control emotions. Watch Gonzo/Ginn/Pittman after ever big gain that's NOT a TD. There is NO celebration outside of a helmet slap before it's back in the huddle to go back to work. The job isn't done yet. It's one of the most amazing things I've seen. No Miami-esque first down signals, no dropping the ball and dancing, no jumping around. Business like.
5. Under the radar - Now before you perk up and ask how could OSU be possibly under the radar, hear me out. Since this isn't LSU, Clemson, or Auburn, we don't have gaudy scores like 63-0, 56-7, etc. They've scored 38 points once this season, and could have easily run up the score on 4 of the 7 opponents. Everyone knows this team is good, but that's an understatement. UM has Michigan St. at home and won by 18. We went to East lansing and won by 31. Then UM went to PSU and won by 7, and we beat them by 22 in the 'Shoe. Granted, there are storylines for all of those games, but that's what the scoreboard reads. We might see some fine-tuning the next 4 weeks, but we won't see how good this offense really can be until November 18. Tressel will zip up the offense considerably, and we should still win each game by a good margin, but not by as much as we could. scUM can look at all the film they want to, but like someone said earlier, it really doesn't hold water. 7 games into the season, we've really only shown the talent level of this team twice.
Now that I've spewed a little bit, I can relax. I read this thread twice today, and I'm pumped. But I've taken the same approach that the team does. We have Indiana this week. Regardless of what we'd all love to fast-forward to, I'm forcing myself to act like the team around my friends and co-workers. No gloating, just saying they've done well, but have alot or work to do. This is the Big10. Indiana comes in riding a 2 game winning streak, with a mobile QB and a very good WR that will test our secondary. Save the Texas WR comments, because that's in the past. Part of why this team is so good is because they not only focus on the next opponent, they respect them. Did you see the MSU players running out to midfield on Saturday to protect the S? Nope, they knew Ohio State respected them.
Business-like, one game at a time. It's been working so far. I know we all want to talk about it. The only thing that matters to Ohio State Football right now is the Indiana Hoosiers.
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JXC
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I don't agree with under the radar point. We've scored 38 twice, not just once. And if you look at last year, our offense didn't start scoring 40 a game until we played Indiana, Minnesota, Illinois and Northwestern...that's when our offense really caught on fire. Expect the same to happen again.
And as far as the scores of when Michigan played MSU and PSU compared to when we did. For one, MSU/Michigan is a bigger game than MSU/OSU. You can't compare it, and either way, both teams blew out MSU. And as far as PSU. The game was in doubt until the 4th quarter, and we were down in the 2nd half. I know you said their were storylines, but that's the point. We beat PSU by 22 and they beat them by 7. But you can't tell how good a team is by just the score...neither team looked amazing against Penn State. And look what Notre Dame did to Penn State, and then what Michigan did to Notre Dame. You can't compare like that.
And finally, I don't agree about zipping up the offense. We had some WR end arounds, and even a Ted Ginn pass last week...in a game in which we were already way up. People always say that Tressel holds back until the Michigan game, but I really don't see it. We play OSU football the whole year, and then we go into The Game and continue to play OSU football, it's just that we execute well, have a good game plan, and play more inspired football than them. I think Tressel is going to keep the offensive creativity alive during the next four weeks...give Michigan a lot to look at. You can't just play one way all year, and then have a completely different approach in one game. I think we keep rolling, and honestly, whether we look ahead past Indiana or not, it doesn't matter. We have too much talent compared to them. Iowa is not nearly as talented as us. Indiana won't beat us. Doesn't matter what we do...it won't happen. Unless everybody on their defense just gained 30 lbs, grew 3 inches, and shaved .2 seconds off their 40 times...they don't match up.
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WaitingforKickoff
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Just like everyone else, I can't wait for the game to start, which is probably why I'm doing a brief analysis of the game at 4:30 in the morning.
Things that we have going for us:
1). Homefield advantage. Henne has played in big games before, but he will never a more hostile crowd as the one he will face on Nov. 18th. It's literally going to feel like playing against a 12th man out there with the crowd and the noise. If things don't go well early, Henne will have a long day.
2). Turnovers. Our team has the uncanny ability to generate TOs this season. Whether that will continue depends largely on how effective we contain the run, but I have a feeling that we will come out on top in this category.
3). Troy Smith. If you look back on the games that Troy played against um, it's amazing how much success he had running the ball. Smith has done it before and knows the deal. He will have a big game.
Things that u of m has going for them:
1). Right now, they have a more physical defense than we do. That being said, I fully expect our young players to get tougher and perform lights out on Nov. 18th.
Things that we have going for us:
1). Homefield advantage. Henne has played in big games before, but he will never a more hostile crowd as the one he will face on Nov. 18th. It's literally going to feel like playing against a 12th man out there with the crowd and the noise. If things don't go well early, Henne will have a long day.
2). Turnovers. Our team has the uncanny ability to generate TOs this season. Whether that will continue depends largely on how effective we contain the run, but I have a feeling that we will come out on top in this category.
3). Troy Smith. If you look back on the games that Troy played against um, it's amazing how much success he had running the ball. Smith has done it before and knows the deal. He will have a big game.
Things that u of m has going for them:
1). Right now, they have a more physical defense than we do. That being said, I fully expect our young players to get tougher and perform lights out on Nov. 18th.
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Dream coming true U-M's defense just might be the best in the nation
Monday, October 16, 2006
STATE COLLEGE, PA. - One for the ages.
It's an overused term, hyperbole usually, but one stat from the 17-10 victory over Penn State defined what the University of Michigan defense did at Beaver Stadium as something you might never see again.
Over the span of 41 seasons, 358 victories, and eight U.S. presidential administrations, no defense had done to Joe Paterno and Penn State what the Michigan defense did Saturday night, holding the Nittany Lions to negative rushing yardage for the first time in their legendary coach's career.
Add in seven sacks, two quarterbacks knocked out of the game, and offensive tackle John Shaw didn't hesitate when asked where Michigan's defense ranked against the Lions' other opponents, including Ohio State.
"I put them number one,'' Shaw said after Michigan held his team to minus-14 yards on the ground. "They go hard every play. They were overall quicker. They were more physical than previous lines we went up against.''
If - and it's still a big, big if - this perfect season stays perfect and this team finds itself playing for a national title, Saturday night will be looked back on as the moment the defense served notice.
The moment everyone began to believe there might not be a better defense in college football.
The Wolverines even appeared to surprise themselves.
"We are a confident bunch,'' senior defensive end Rondell Biggs said, "but no one expected that.''
Especially against Penn State, a program that recruits at Michigan's level, that has players who aren't intimidated by winged helmets and mystique, players who expect to match up on equal physical terms with anybody.
Yet, the Lions were overwhelmed.
There was never any hope of running the ball, and as the game wore on, the Wolverine pass rush just got better and better, completely disrupting any sustained effort.
At one point Michigan notched sacks on an unheard of three consecutive plays. There were sacks from Terrance Taylor, Tim Jamison and Shawn Crable, and a pair each for LaMarr Woodley and Biggs, an embarrassing abundance of balance.
How good are the Wolverines?
Good enough that Woodley is on track to be an All-American, but Shaw thought Biggs was better.
Good enough that they already have more sacks in seven games this year (25) than they had in all of last season (24).
And last year, Michigan coach Lloyd Carr said afterward, is a big part of what's happening this year.
"All those guys played a year ago,'' Carr said. "A lot of them suffered through the disappointment that comes with a season where you lose five games at Michigan. You can't buy disappointment.
"The deal was, they learned from it. They didn't want to be disappointed again. That's why they've been great leaders. That's why they've had such great motivation.''
No, they have not been disappointed, not even close.
They're one of only seven teams left undefeated now, a week from another big test against Iowa, five weeks from potentially the greatest game American's greatest college rivalry has ever seen.
They are a confident bunch, but no one could have expected this.
So far, it's nothing short of a team's dream come true.
Dream coming true U-M's defense just might be the best in the nation
Monday, October 16, 2006
STATE COLLEGE, PA. - One for the ages.
It's an overused term, hyperbole usually, but one stat from the 17-10 victory over Penn State defined what the University of Michigan defense did at Beaver Stadium as something you might never see again.
Over the span of 41 seasons, 358 victories, and eight U.S. presidential administrations, no defense had done to Joe Paterno and Penn State what the Michigan defense did Saturday night, holding the Nittany Lions to negative rushing yardage for the first time in their legendary coach's career.
Add in seven sacks, two quarterbacks knocked out of the game, and offensive tackle John Shaw didn't hesitate when asked where Michigan's defense ranked against the Lions' other opponents, including Ohio State.
"I put them number one,'' Shaw said after Michigan held his team to minus-14 yards on the ground. "They go hard every play. They were overall quicker. They were more physical than previous lines we went up against.''
If - and it's still a big, big if - this perfect season stays perfect and this team finds itself playing for a national title, Saturday night will be looked back on as the moment the defense served notice.
The moment everyone began to believe there might not be a better defense in college football.
The Wolverines even appeared to surprise themselves.
"We are a confident bunch,'' senior defensive end Rondell Biggs said, "but no one expected that.''
Especially against Penn State, a program that recruits at Michigan's level, that has players who aren't intimidated by winged helmets and mystique, players who expect to match up on equal physical terms with anybody.
Yet, the Lions were overwhelmed.
There was never any hope of running the ball, and as the game wore on, the Wolverine pass rush just got better and better, completely disrupting any sustained effort.
At one point Michigan notched sacks on an unheard of three consecutive plays. There were sacks from Terrance Taylor, Tim Jamison and Shawn Crable, and a pair each for LaMarr Woodley and Biggs, an embarrassing abundance of balance.
How good are the Wolverines?
Good enough that Woodley is on track to be an All-American, but Shaw thought Biggs was better.
Good enough that they already have more sacks in seven games this year (25) than they had in all of last season (24).
And last year, Michigan coach Lloyd Carr said afterward, is a big part of what's happening this year.
"All those guys played a year ago,'' Carr said. "A lot of them suffered through the disappointment that comes with a season where you lose five games at Michigan. You can't buy disappointment.
"The deal was, they learned from it. They didn't want to be disappointed again. That's why they've been great leaders. That's why they've had such great motivation.''
No, they have not been disappointed, not even close.
They're one of only seven teams left undefeated now, a week from another big test against Iowa, five weeks from potentially the greatest game American's greatest college rivalry has ever seen.
They are a confident bunch, but no one could have expected this.
So far, it's nothing short of a team's dream come true.
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U-M coach Lloyd Carr: 'Rankings don't mean anything' yet
Angelique S. Chengelis / The Detroit News
ANN ARBOR -- College football fans around the country were aware of the latest national rankings on Sunday afternoon. Most of the Michigan players, however, didn't even know the Wolverines are now ranked second behind Big Ten rival Ohio State.
This is the highest ranking the Wolverines (7-0, 4-0 Big Ten) have achieved since they were elevated to No. 1 during the 1997 season after defeating Penn State on Nov. 8.
Michigan coach Lloyd Carr has never put much into the polls during the season, and he still doesn't.
"We're 7-0," Carr said Monday during his weekly news conference. "We're just one game past the halfway point, so those rankings didn't mean anything at the beginning of the season. And obviously, the polls are what create such great interest in college football, but as a football team, we're happy, obviously, with the fact we are where we are as far as our record. It really does not have any significance.
"Now, there should be something in there that's a motivating factor because we don't live in a vacuum. We know where we are, but if we're a smart football team, which we have been this year, then we understand you better be focused on who's coming to town this week and what we need to do to get better. That's clear for all of us."
Michigan faces Iowa (5-2, 2-2) on Saturday at 3:30 p.m. at Michigan Stadium.
U-M coach Lloyd Carr: 'Rankings don't mean anything' yet
Angelique S. Chengelis / The Detroit News
ANN ARBOR -- College football fans around the country were aware of the latest national rankings on Sunday afternoon. Most of the Michigan players, however, didn't even know the Wolverines are now ranked second behind Big Ten rival Ohio State.
This is the highest ranking the Wolverines (7-0, 4-0 Big Ten) have achieved since they were elevated to No. 1 during the 1997 season after defeating Penn State on Nov. 8.
Michigan coach Lloyd Carr has never put much into the polls during the season, and he still doesn't.
"We're 7-0," Carr said Monday during his weekly news conference. "We're just one game past the halfway point, so those rankings didn't mean anything at the beginning of the season. And obviously, the polls are what create such great interest in college football, but as a football team, we're happy, obviously, with the fact we are where we are as far as our record. It really does not have any significance.
"Now, there should be something in there that's a motivating factor because we don't live in a vacuum. We know where we are, but if we're a smart football team, which we have been this year, then we understand you better be focused on who's coming to town this week and what we need to do to get better. That's clear for all of us."
Michigan faces Iowa (5-2, 2-2) on Saturday at 3:30 p.m. at Michigan Stadium.
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