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The Ohio State Coaching Staff (Official Thread)

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by WyoBuckeye, Sep 14, 2008.

  1. WyoBuckeye

    WyoBuckeye Freshman

    I don't think I can put it any simpler than this: I have lost a lot of the confidence that I once has in this staff. I am just flat out disappointed in the prep and execution exhibited by this team lately. I am not going to go so far as to say personnel changes are needed quite yet, but the need for something new is obvious. I put this loss squarely on the shoulders of the coaching staff. This team was not ready for this game. The play calling was bland and predictable. And our guys just plain looked foolish.
    Bleed S & G and strohs like this.
  2. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

    I guess it's noteworthy that the halftime chatter mentioned the innovative play-calling by Tressel.

    Last night, we played the team that has the clearest route to be crowned national champions. On the night, they appeared to be better coached and executed better. It's not clear to me why.

    One problem that I see is the national championship runs year after year. It's a great problem to have but it has its poison fruit: anything but the NC game is perceived to be a failure. When you set yourself such high goals repeatedly, you also set yourself up for some serious motivational problems when you fail to achieve your goal and this is a goal that requires not only skill but a lot of luck.

    When the Trojans scored the second time last night, one could sense that our team began buying into "here we go again." Coaching plays a part in this team's failure to perform but there are a number of players who need to re-evaluate their desire. Who would we rather have on the sidelines coaching?

    The team that played last night could lose three games this year. The team that played last night could go undefeated from here and win a BCS bowl. I'm not calling you out but talking about throwing the coaches out with the bathwater is unlikely to be a productive discussion.
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  3. WyoBuckeye

    WyoBuckeye Freshman

    I'm not saying that coaches need to be fired or anything like that, but it seems to me that a degree of predictability and lethargy has crept into the program. This team is far too talented and experienced to play like it has been and I think that falls squarely on the coach's shoulders. This staff has earned a lot of passes in my book, but as of late something is a bit stale. I still stand squarely Tress & Co but I think criticism is fair given the performances as of late.
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2008
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  4. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

    I understood that WyoBuckeye. I agree that the psychological condition of the team IS a coaching challenge and that they ultimately take responsibility for playcalling. But, a coaching staff can only send in plays that its players can execute. From what I saw last night, execution was an issue.

    Again, I am not calling you out but speaking to the thread title: guys, follow up posts bashing the Buckeye coaching staff are unlikely to lead to a satisfying outcome for the poster.
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  5. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    Bashing or no, the defensive side of the ball needs to be questioned. I don't care if thats a popular opinion or not.

    41 points to UF, 28 to Illinois, 38 to LSU and now 35 to USC. Good teams shred this defense. I agree that the players are the ones who have to execute but who recruited and developed all the players?

    There isn't one impact player in the DL, the back 7 still let receivers run loose all the time, the tackling is poor and the schemes are predictible.

    It's not good to overreact and have a knee jerk reaction but after a while its not good to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result.
  6. Buckin' A

    Buckin' A Veritas Aequitas

    JMHO...I'm uncomfortable with Boeckman leading this team. However, Sanchez had days to make decisions and Boeckman was pressured on just about every play. Pressure=bad decisions as of late with Boeckman. In my mind, our o line has not been at the level that I expect this year. I even felt like OU pushed them around more than should have been.

    Having said that, I have almost no confidence that anything will change after halftime. We use to be a team that made very good adjustments in the locker room. It is almost as if we have become too stubborn to change the game plan...or we don't know what adjustments to make.

    I wanted to wait until this morning to post so that I didn't give a knee jerk reaction. I truly don't know what the problem is. I do know that we are going to get hammered by the nation...and I can no longer argue that we don't deserve it.

    Time to regroup and win the Big Ten. Go Bucks.
  7. ochre

    ochre Senior

    I'm not sold on the defense as a unit at all. Without inside knowledge as to the coverage assignments, it is too hard to figure where the actual breakdowns are occurring. They are occurring though. I've just seen too many in-rhythm completions when OSU has 7-8 back in coverage, or that extra second for the QB to locate the open guy(s) when the blitz is on, to believe that they are where we thought they were defensively. A defense needs to either generate massive pressure on the QB, or blanket the receivers (of course optimally, both). Too often in big games, it seems they have been doing neither. Not to mention the massive running lanes.

    Not pointing any fingers here, because the TV view is too limited to see the bigger picture, but something(s) not quite right with the D, and it hasn't been the last few games against tough opponents. This game, the Florida game, the Illinois game, or the LSU game in isolation are aberrations. Looked at together, they seem to be a trend.
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  8. Jake

    Jake They took the bar! ‘17 The Deuce Champ '18 The Deuce Champ Fantasy Baseball Champ

    That pretty much sums up my sentiments. The three best teams we have played the last 20 months have beat us by an average score of 38-14. Something we're doing, or not doing, is clearly not working.

    But the season is far from over. We can still win the Big Ten and earn another BCS bid. :osu:
  9. Onebuckfan

    Onebuckfan classof76

    Its execution not play calling JT has called thousands of successful plays the red zone I hear fans calling for the fade throw the fade..jt is an idiot for not throwing the fade..I'm betting TB has yet to complete a fade in practice so how can you call it iin a game. JT may seem overly predictable but he can only call plays the O executes in practice! JT will take the blame ..but I think he has some trust issuses with what his QB,OL,WR cando!
  10. HabaneroBuck

    HabaneroBuck Non-Nike Design

    It is not just execution. Read the quotes of our opponents after every game like this. The Florida players said it...the Tigers said it....the Trojans said it....They pretty much spell it out for you. They know exactly what we are going to do, and they aren't afraid one bit. They watch the film, figure out how to attack, and they have universally been surprised at how easy we were to beat. I think that goes for both sides of the ball, as well, but especially offensively. Only difference-makers like Beanie can bail us out of our malaise (Michigan game last year, LSU performance).
  11. Onebuckfan

    Onebuckfan classof76

    Speaking of coaching..I don't think Woody would be a fan of the InternetLOL
  12. strohs

    strohs Go Bucks!

    As a head coach, propbably no one, but our coordinators are "lacking"
    There is a reason that, unlike in past years, no other teams are trying to hire them away...
  13. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    We are very predictable. Last night was a great example. Early on, when we rotating Boeckman and Pryor (I think USC was indeed surprised that Pryor came in so early in the game), USC was on its heels and we moved the ball well on them (we were a chinsy holding call away from 10 points on our first three drives). But once USC figured out that when Pryor is in he is either going to run or hand the ball off, and when Boeckman is in he's either going to hand it off or throw a short side type route, game over. So many times it seemed like Boeckman or Pryor shouted the play across the line to Mauluga and Cushing before the snap.

    Being there in person, I can clearly state that we have the same talent that USC does. Our horses are just as strong and fast as theirs. Unfortunately, that's where the similarity ends.
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  14. strohs

    strohs Go Bucks!

    Unfortunatly though, its been that same story for years.
    Texas in 05', Florida, LSU, and now USC.
    Talent wise tOSU stacks up with all of them, but thats about it.
  15. Onebuckfan

    Onebuckfan classof76

    I don't thing USC's offense was that Un-predictable and it scored 28 points. Sanchez said it we don't care what the DEFENSE does we are taking it to them for 60 min. WE got manhandled at the line on O and D. 2nd and 20 Mcknihgt shifts back to TB everyone knows whats coming .....and 18 yrds later we get him went on all night

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