The Ohio State Coaching Staff (Official Thread)

[OState29]

We are getting manhandled in the trenches on both sides of the ball. It's really that simple. Someone smarter than me can decide if that's the coaches fault or not. My personal opinion is that they haven't played with the same intensity they showed last season.

I'm starting to wonder if these two things may be connected. I'm wondering if they are not going full go against each other in practice or if the are both not able to give the other sides the looks they need to be sucessful on Saturdays.

 

[cincibuck]

It's simple, really. In all three blowouts, we got beat soundly up front, O & D.

Talent? Maybe.

Coaching? Maybe.

But beaten up front? Definitely.

 

[LitlBuck]

It's simple, really. In all three blowouts, we got beat soundly up front, O & D.

Talent? Maybe.

Coaching? Maybe.

But beaten up front? Definitely.

I think that sums things up fairly well. You can have a great offensive and defensive scheme and have all the talent in the world but if you get manhandled up front on both sides of the ball you will get beat every time and we certainly got manhandled on both sides yesterday.

I have other thoughts regarding the offensive and defensive philosophy of our football program but I will keep them to myself.

 

[ochre]

Disagree. Great defenses do that for their offenses. Good defenses hold the line and keep the scoring manageable. I'll give the defense 21 of the points last night. Holding USC to 21 points is an adequate performance...great...heck no. However, I do understand your reasoning...for tOSU to win, the defense had to be great and they certainly were not.

sounds good, but the first 14 were straight out of the tunnel. Straight out of the tunnel covering 143 yards in 14 plays for 2 TDs. Watching OSU line up for a field goal on the first series I thought to myself, "hmm. Defense is going to have to be lights out if field goals are going to matter". Defense was un-lightsout. Much like against Florida it looked like the Offense reacted to the early deficit and started pressing. It is definitely a trend in these types of games. Score early, get counter-punched in the grill and walk around dizzy for 3 quarters. A bit too coincidental for me.

 

[UpNorthBuckeye]

JMHO...I'm uncomfortable with Boeckman leading this team. However, Sanchez had days to make decisions and Boeckman was pressured on just about every play. Pressure=bad decisions as of late with Boeckman. In my mind, our o line has not been at the level that I expect this year. I even felt like OU pushed them around more than should have been.

Having said that, I have almost no confidence that anything will change after halftime. We use to be a team that made very good adjustments in the locker room. It is almost as if we have become too stubborn to change the game plan...or we don't know what adjustments to make.

I wanted to wait until this morning to post so that I didn't give a knee jerk reaction. I truly don't know what the problem is. I do know that we are going to get hammered by the nation...and I can no longer argue that we don't deserve it.

Time to regroup and win the Big Ten. Go Bucks.

Right on... Mark dantonio is still doing it, up at Michigan state. He was on staff when I was ALWAYS comfortable being tied at halftime, because the Buckeyes ALWAYS won the second half. The first half was just rope a dope for him, and then he would make a few changes and stop whatever it was the other team was having success with.

So I still believe in Tressel, but when you are a successful program, you keep losing yourbest coaches...

It's like Peter Noone calling himself Herman's Hermits.... where's the rest of the band??

sorry to all of you under the age of 50...

 

[seu bobo]

Watching the game last night I was wondering what would happen if Tim Spencer was still stalking the sidelines for OSU. I don't know if he would have been able to contain himself. Getting beat is one thing-- getting beat up on the LOS is a whole 'nother animal. Forte is probably wondering why his coach is in such a bad mood today.

 

[WaitingforKickoff]

Disagree. Great defenses do that for their offenses. Good defenses hold the line and keep the scoring manageable. I'll give the defense 21 of the points last night. Holding USC to 21 points is an adequate performance...great...heck no. However, I do understand your reasoning...for tOSU to win, the defense had to be great and they certainly were not.

I agree that the defense played ok last night, and in some sense even exceeded by expectations. However, that's also what is so disturbing about the whole thing. We can try and chalk another one up for the DLine, but it's more than that. We didn't have a dominant DLine either in 2005. Yet we absolutely stuffed the most dynamic college football player in the past decade in Vince Young. The only player who clearly demonstrated an attacking mentality last night was Malcolm Jenkins. That's it. The LBer, the safeties and DLineman, even when they were within a few inches of McKnight, could not bring him down because it looked like their fingers literally melted upon contact with the ballcarrier. How do we explain that? The coaching staff has to be held responsible in that regard.

 

[buckeye78]

Go Bucks!

I'm just extremely dissapointed, as we all are. I have always been, and will always be a buckeye, and proud of such, but...

I'm afraid this class of players have had too much pressure put on them, and unfortunately may never play great in a big game because of it. The coaching staff is difficult to blame, as difficult as it is not to blame them.

They are at one point responsible for getting the team ready, but the team has to respond and i'm not sure who's to blame. What's more, I don't really want to blame anyone, I just want it to be fixed. I'm starting to get the same feeling before every big game that I used to get playing scUM under Coop.

This team is going to have to seriously get it together to win the B10, which at this point, is not certain. Wisky looks good, as does Penn State, Illinois, Sparty, hell even Northwestern looks improved. We could still win, obviously, but we could finish as low as third or fourth, and what kind of dissapointment would that be? probably enough to require a serious amount of drinking this fall. Time to buy stock in miller.

 

[614]

I've been a huge Tressel fan from back when he was still coaching at YSU, but after this loss I have had all of him I can take. How an elite program like the Buckeyes can look so totally unprepared in three consecutive big games on a national stage is beyond me. First Florida, then LSU, now USC. All three times the Buckeyes haven't just been beaten: they've been HUMILIATED. It all comes down to coaching or lack thereof. We're talking about an Ohio State program that consistently ranks in the top 10 in recruiting excellence year in and year out and somehow our players aren't prepared to play against other really good teams in really important situations.

Has Tressel dominated Michigan? You betcha, but Michigan hasn't exactly been what you would call an elite team during the last 6 or 7 years.

Did Tressel win a National Championship in 2002-2003? Yes,

Am I grateful for those two accomplishments? Absolutely. But I'm also sick and tired of being absolutely embarrassed on national television the last three times my team has played. I'm a die-hard fan, which means that I bleed scarlet and gray and I probably care more than I should. And that's really what makes it so difficult.

 

[seu bobo]

After the FL loss I assumed Tressel knew what went wrong, and that he knew how to address it. After the IL loss I figured you just can't fix everything in less than a year. After the LSU loss I started to wonder whether JT recognized what the problems were. After last night I'm convinced that Jack Daniels and I are the only people who know what's happenin here; problem is my friggin liver is starting to hurt. I'm doubtful for Troy.

 

[FF08]

Does anyone here actually realize we blitzed a ton last night...blitzed ourselves out of position a good bit too. Does anyone realize we played plenty of man coverage also? The wide open TD pass was man coverage and the DB got picked...

Heacock said something the other day about how nobody notices when you don't get there in time. I agree with another of your posts about the defense only giving up 21. I was thinking if the D can hold them to 21 we win 24-21. There is a big difference in playing with a 2 TD lead and field position than being even or down with poor field position.

I'm getting tired of the illegal picks and I wish that coaches could ask for a review for them. Personally I think the penalty should be 15 yards from the spot of the throw and loss of down. Since it's a deliberate violation of the rules, it should be treated as an unsportsman like conduct penalty.

 

[Jake]

"They did everything we saw on film, nothing changed," said USC linebacker Rey Maualuga

"We felt they couldn't throw the ball well enough against us to win the game, that they'd have to throw it," Les Miles

"Honestly, we've played a lot better teams than them," Florida defensive end Jarvis Moss

Unless every recruiting service in the country is wrong about our talent, it seems our approach needs to change. :ohwell:

 

[BuckBackHome]

After a good night's sleep and a half a day to calm down I have come to the conclusion it really does not matter what I think. Everything that happens with that team going forward will be as a result of what happens within their locker room and the coaching offices.

I trust Tressel with this team. I know he is hurting the worst of anyone. He knows he has bigger problems than being kicked by the media and the fans. He has to bring a team of kids back together, get his seniors to remember why they skipped out on becoming instant millionaires, right his coaching staff, and get everyone moving toward improvement and winning the rest of the games in front of them.

I know he is capable of it. Now it is just a matter of putting it all into place. I, for one, am still feeling good about the remainder of the season.

 

[JohnnyCockfight]

Since it's a deliberate violation of the rules, it should be treated as an unsportsman like conduct penalty.

I am not familiar with the rules - is it against the rules to set a pick like the one in the game last night? I remember another team doing that to us recently, maybe Illinois. But I thought it was legal.

 

[seu bobo]

After a good night's sleep and a half a day to calm down I have come to the conclusion it really does not matter what I think. Everything that happens with that team going forward will be as a result of what happens within their locker room and the coaching offices.

I trust Tressel with this team. I know he is hurting the worst of anyone. He knows he has bigger problems than being kicked by the media and the fans. He has to bring a team of kids back together, get his seniors to remember why they skipped out on becoming instant millionaires, right his coaching staff, and get everyone moving toward improvement and winning the rest of the games in front of them.

I know he is capable of it. Now it is just a matter of putting it all into place. I, for one, am still feeling good about the remainder of the season.

That's where I was at after the FL loss-- Oh halcyon days, halcyon days