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The Polls (AP, Coaches, & CFP, etc.)

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Buckeye513 said:
What world do you live in where shrimp isn't the finest of delicacies?
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Again, don't lose to 3-3 (at kickoff) teams by 30 points and everything else is moot.
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I’m not advocating for Ohio State being in the playoffs. I don’t get how many times that needs to be said. Just simply pointing out the massive hypocrisy going on with the CFP Committee
 
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Buckerooni said:
Does Bama, the SEC champ get left out? Of course not. Bye, bye, OU. We'd hear about how tough the SEC is, how all the teams are obviously good enough to beat up on each other on any given day, how Bama has proven itself, redeemed itself in blowing out #4 ranked LSU.

And that's what rankles.
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I get that. But can you see how the B1G earning a 31-0 loss, preceded by a 38-0 loss, preceded by a "No Participation" trophy in the CFP the last three years might shape perception?

If the 'high end' of the conference sets the perception with some voters, then you have a conference perception hole to dig out of with some voters. Now, that only the high end of the conference would be considered seems to me to be short sighted and unfair, to be honest. Stupid way to judge conference competence. But I honestly think its 'a thing' off your radar that might play a part in the deliberations. Always being the cream of the B1G might make it harder to see, as you rightfully expect to be judged on just your own body of work.
 
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Gatorubet said:
I get that. But can you see how the B1G earning a 31-0 loss, preceded by a 38-0 loss, preceded by a "No Participation" trophy in the CFP the last three years might shape perception?

If the 'high end' of the conference sets the perception with some voters, then you have a conference perception hole to dig out of with some voters. Now, that only the high end of the conference would be considered seems to me to be short sighted and unfair, to be honest. Stupid way to judge conference competence. But I honestly think its 'a thing' off your radar that might play a part in the deliberations. Always being the cream of the B1G might make it harder to see, as you rightfully expect to be judged on just your own body of work.
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Did FSU's debacle against Oregon hurt Clemson? No then why Should the Past matter to OSU
 
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Gatorubet said:
I get that. But can you see how the B1G earning a 31-0 loss, preceded by a 38-0 loss, preceded by a "No Participation" trophy in the CFP the last three years might shape perception?

If the 'high end' of the conference sets the perception with some voters, then you have a conference perception hole to dig out of with some voters. Now, that only the high end of the conference would be considered seems to me to be short sighted and unfair, to be honest. Stupid way to judge conference competence. But I honestly think its 'a thing' off your radar that might play a part in the deliberations. Always being the cream of the B1G might make it harder to see, as you rightfully expect to be judged on just your own body of work.
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Then adopt the sec way and cancel the 9th game, and start training your media propagandists to give other B1G teams credit for OSU's success.

What exactly did UGA do to earn such lavish praise? You a big champion of their playoff worthiness there, rival fan?
 
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dragurd said:
Did FSU's debacle against Oregon hurt Clemson? No then why Should the Past matter to OSU
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Clemson was 14-0 the next year. So we are not talking about how to evaluate a one loss team.

And 2015 was one bad year for the ACC in the CFP, followed by a an ACC 20 point win over Oklahoma in 2016 and solid (45-40 loss) championship game. The following year Clemson convincingly beat some team, I can't recall in the semis, and then won the Championship Game. I don't see a poor conference showing for the ACC in that that 3 year stretch, so I have to disagree that's a good analogy. Again, I'm not advocating it, just throwing out the hypothesis.
 
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jwinslow said:
What exactly did UGA do to earn such lavish praise? You a big champion of their playoff worthiness there, rival fan?
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I guess I don't see it as lavish praise. I see it as folks thinking UGA was very damn close to the best team in college football, but needing to be kept out of the CFP, thank God. Jumping you by one is meaningless, IMO, because once the committee put OU in, it was contract visits to Rose and Sugar for both of you, regardless. And championing Georgia??? How many times do I have to say that I would have picked tOSU over UGA. Conference Champion matters, one versus two loss matters.

And I am looking for my "Hook 'Em" shirt. In Florida Orange, not that bastard burnt monstrosity of a color.
 
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Gatorubet said:
I get that. But can you see how the B1G earning a 31-0 loss, preceded by a 38-0 loss, preceded by a "No Participation" trophy in the CFP the last three years might shape perception?

If the 'high end' of the conference sets the perception with some voters, then you have a conference perception hole to dig out of with some voters. Now, that only the high end of the conference would be considered seems to me to be short sighted and unfair, to be honest. Stupid way to judge conference competence. But I honestly think its 'a thing' off your radar that might play a part in the deliberations. Always being the cream of the B1G might make it harder to see, as you rightfully expect to be judged on just your own body of work.
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Going into The Game, Michigan had been sitting at #4 for three weeks as the highest ranked one-loss team above Georgia and Oklahoma. Honestly, I think if they had managed to beat Ohio State, some if not most of the committee members would have ranked them above Notre Dame. Michigan was also 3rd before The Game in 2016. Wisconsin was ranked 4th above Alabama last year before the CCG. Michigan State and Iowa were #4 and #5 in 2015.

Big Ten perception isn't the reason Michigan isn't in the playoff this year, Wisconsin didn't make it last year, or Ohio State has missed it for the last two seasons. At least one Big Ten team has had a clear path in late in the season every season, and they've either gotten in, lost, or gotten blown the fuck out at some point.
 
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Gatorubet said:
Clemson was 14-0 the next year. So we are not talking about how to evaluate a one loss team.

And 2015 was one bad year for the ACC in the CFP, followed by a an ACC 20 point win over Oklahoma in 2016 and solid (45-40 loss) championship game. The following year Clemson convincingly beat some team, I can't recall in the semis, and then won the Championship Game. I don't see a poor conference showing for the ACC in that that 3 year stretch, so I have to disagree that's a good analogy. Again, I'm not advocating it, just throwing out the hypothesis.
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Errr Clemson getting bludgeoned by Alabama last year is forgotten now? Ohio State beating Alabama and obliterating Oregon in the first CFP didn't happen? Maybe if the committee actually stuck to their "four best teams" directive in 2015 and put Ohio State over Michigan State, Sparty wouldn't have had to take that 38-0 beating.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
First, the conference decided we play nine conference game instead of eight, not us. Second, we got criticized in the past for playing FCS teams (which the Citadel is), so we play FBS teams instead. And playing top-notch OOC teams is good for the resume. But, to continue pounding the original point, it wasn't what we did against OOC teams the last two seasons but what we did against mediocre in-conference opponents. We take care of business against those teams we should care of business against, then we're not having this discussion...it's not the fault of the schedule.
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A nine game schedule in a 14 team conference split into divisions means that every other year, you will play 2 out of division teams on the road (and 1 more conference game in total on the road). IMO it is impossible to argue that extra road game doesn't put you at more risk than a home game against a lesser team. For OSU it is more difficult because it is the class of the Big 10 since Urban's arrival. They will always get the "best shot" from everyone the play.

If you don't believe me ask Nick Saban. When the SEC proposed going to 9 conference games, Saban and Alabama lead the charge against it.
 
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