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osugrad21

Capo Regime
Staff member
Chicago Tribune

7/21

Scout's rocky road to success


Teddy Greenstein
ON SPORTS MEDIA AND COLLEGES

July 21, 2005


After his latest road trip, Tom Lemming can tell you all about the capture of Jefferson Davis, the Confederate president who succumbed to Union troops on May 10, 1865, in Irwinville, Ga.

"I watched an 18-minute film about it," Lemming says.


Lemming loves American history, but that wasn't the purpose of his journey, during which he covered 46 states, drove 40,000 miles and hopped on 15 planes.

The college football recruiting guru interviewed and photographed hundreds of prospects for his 2005 Prep Report, a 272-plus page magazine that will be published Friday.

The only states Lemming didn't visit were Alaska, Hawaii, Montana and North Dakota. That means that in between his Taco Bell lunches and Holiday Inn stays he managed to find a scholarship-worthy player in Vermont.

But Lemming, who lives in Schaumburg, went even more out of his way when he visited a 335-pound offensive lineman in Pasco, Wash. That was six hours round-trip.

"I once traveled 1,350 (miles) in one day," says Lemming, who makes car-rental companies regret offering unlimited miles. "I went from Tucson just south of Dallas with a stop in Lubbock to have dinner with the Texas Tech coaches."

Lemming, 50, has working relationships with dozens of college coaches, and some of those have been brought into question recently.

Colorado coach Gary Barnett charged in the Denver Post that Lemming had encouraged recruits to take visits to Nebraska, where Bill Callahan is the head coach.

Lemming denies that but can't deny he and Callahan, who grew up two years apart on Chicago's South Side, are friends.

Callahan was the featured speaker last year at Lemming's annual Prep Football Banquet, and Lemming ranked Callahan's 2005 recruiting class the nation's best. (Rivals.com ranked Nebraska fifth; SuperPrep had the Cornhuskers 10th.)

Lemming says his banquet speakers are unpaid and adds, "This year we're probably going to have Ron Zook. If Illinois has the No. 1 recruiting class in the country next year, you'll have quite a story."

Lemming can't help but chuckle at those who insist his relationships with coaches affect his rankings.

"If I say something nice about Ohio State, the Michigan people get mad at me," he says. "For the last eight years, I've been saying negative things about Notre Dame, but now I'm not and people take exception to it. Part of my job, as one of the only national guys in the country, is to take a lot of shots."

Lemming has taken a bunch since the July 4 edition of ESPN the Magazine, in which Myron Rolle, a top cornerback recruit from New Jersey, said, "Tom Lemming is a huge Notre Dame guy. He kept saying to me, 'You know they have a great coaching staff. You know Charlie Weis is Mr. NFL. You're an academic guy. That place is for you.' Then he killed Florida State. He said, 'You're stupid if you go there.' Um, OK. Thanks."

Lemming has a different recollection of his conversation with Rolle, which occurred during a high school scouting combine.

"I never said he'd be stupid to go to Florida State," Lemming says. "He's a 4.0 student and wants to be a doctor. I said, 'Do yourself a favor: Look at how many kids have gone on from there to become doctors.' I do that with all kids. I ask them questions that make them think.

"I say, 'Forget football. Go to a school where you can get a worthwhile degree.' People might think that means I'm pushing kids to go to schools like Duke, Notre Dame, Northwestern and Vanderbilt. I can see where some schools could get upset by that, and I have to watch myself. I'm very careful about mentioning names of schools now."

Lemming says he has known Weis for just seven months and was teasing Rolle when the two spotted him: "I said, 'There goes Charlie Weis, the great coach of Notre Dame.'"

In February Lemming predicted Weis could have a top-five recruiting class in 2006, and the Notre Dame coach already has received commitments from nine players. He and his staff beat Michigan last week on Robby Paris, a wide receiver from Cleveland.

"I try to be as honest as possible," Lemming says. "I was critical of (Bob) Davie and Tyrone (Willingham), and Notre Dame fans canceled subscriptions (to Lemming's Prep Report) left and right. Now I'm saying they're doing great, and I'm back to being a Notre Dame fan."

Lemming recently ended his freelance association with ESPN, saying the network didn't like that he also wrote columns for USA Today and selected players for NBC's All-American Bowl.

By the time ESPNEWS asked him to contribute to its coverage of football signing day, Lemming had agreed to do a show for CSTV.

Lemming, meanwhile, was miffed that people had to pay a premium to read his rankings and on-line chats on ESPN.com.

Lemming calls his decision to leave the network "mutual," and ESPN.com's executive editor, Patrick Stiegman, says, "I have nothing negative to say about Tom."

Stiegman says the Web site wanted to "take greater ownership" of its recruiting content and will feature material from partner Scouts, Inc., which is made up of former coaches who evaluate prospects in person.

Lemming, meanwhile, takes his 26 years of experience to CSTV, where he will host TV shows, serve as an on-air analyst and contribute to its Web site.

"It's more exposure," Lemming says. "And I'll still be able to work with USA Today and NBC."

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"If I say something nice about Ohio State, the Michigan people get mad at me," he says.
He has said stuff nice about tOSU before?

"I try to be as honest as possible," Lemming says. "I was critical of (Bob) Davie and Tyrone (Willingham), and Notre Dame fans canceled subscriptions (to Lemming's Prep Report) left and right. Now I'm saying they're doing great, and I'm back to being a Notre Dame fan."
Funny, I spent the whole Davie and Willingham era's thinking lemming was a ND fan then too.
 
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This was a pretty feeble attempt on Lemming's part to clear the air. He his whole practice is clouded with controversy right now, and the best thing he could have done was instead of saying that he is being honest, just be honest. Admit that he is a homer for certain teams/coaches. His infatuation with Notre Dame and Nebraska are well documented, even during the miserable Willingham years at ND and sub-par (by their standards) Frank Solich years at Nebraska. It's not like Charlie Weis and Bill Callahan showed up and all of a sudden he is back to praising ND and Nebraska (although Charlie is doing a heck of a job and ND has offers out to about 3 times as many kids as did at this point last year). There has always been a large number of people who felt like they weren't always getting the most objective information when they got it from Lemming. I think if people see through this weak attempt to clear his name, they may begin to doubt his ethics even more.
 
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there is an absolute laundry list of kids that have stated what rolle said last month. add to that his peppering of the AA game with less talented recruits that are attending his favored schools, and the vast stories of him trying to push kids to certain programs.

lemming is a chump. for espn to cut you loose because you are too biased is bottom of the barrell. lemming will put out his 300 page piece of garbage, and nobody will care.
 
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I agree wadc45, just tell the truth! Don't try to make a kid look like a liar and sugar coat this. Too many stories support the kid! Yeah, and like he's been blowing the horn for Ohio State!:tongue2:
 
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He had a fairly high profile spat with Lorenzo Booker a few years ago. I actually heard a radio interview where the host was able to get both Booker and Lemming on the phone. Booker was very calm and collected in his comments, while Lemming basically went ballistic and started calling the kid names.
 
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Being perfectly accurate, he's a rodent.

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Lemming chat

11/02/2006 - Updated 04:16 PM ET

Tom Lemming

Football recruiting: Tom Lemming

Thursday, November 2, 3:00 PM ET

Signing Day may be three months away, but there is plenty of recruiting news across the country to catch up on. CSTV recruiting expert Tom Lemming stops by to take your questions on the top prep football players in the country.


Complete preps sports coverage




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Comment from Tom Lemming: Great to be here again for another chat. Looking forward to the questions, so let's start 'em up.

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: Tom: Notre Dame has a fast start on recruiting and there has been no "noise" for the past two months. When the coaches were pressed on this they said "perhaps there are some silent commitments..they are not allowed to comment. Do you have any "inside" info or best guesses? This question is coming from a Notre Dame grad now living in BERMUDA
Tom Lemming: I don't think there are silent commitments. I think there are some leans. It would make no sense to have silent commitments at this point. There some 15-20 players announcing at the Army All-American Game in San Antonio on Jan. 6, but none of those are silent comitments. I'll be up in the booth for that game on NBC. I believe that the Irish are off to a great start and can finish in the top five.

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Philadelphia, PA: How is Texas A&M's class looking this year?
Tom Lemming: My opinion is that Texas A&M has a terrific recruting staff. This season is really helping in recruiting. They are getting back in with players they normally would not have shot with. I believe they'll finish in the top 20 with a big finish and possibly the top 15.

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Jersey City, NJ: Besides Manny Abreu, what are the chances of New Jersey's top prospects staying in state and signing with Rutgers?
Tom Lemming: The big one would be offensive lineman Anthony Davis from Piscataway. If they can keep Florida and USC away, that would be the biggest catch of the Greg Schiano era. I believe that Rutgers has a great shot at any of the top players left in New Jersey.

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Columbia, MD: Does Ohio State have any prospects @ QB to replace Troy Smith for the future.
Tom Lemming: It doesn't look good, but they do have an interest in Latravis Washington from Bradenton (Bayshore), Fla. He'll be visiting during the Michigan game. He is also looking at Nebraska and West Virginia. Washington has yet to be offered by the Buckeyes. It is more than likely they'll be without a quarterback in the 2007 class.

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Vicksburg, MI: Is Michigan in good shape to pick up both Ronald Johnson and Eversen Griffen?
Tom Lemming: With Everson Griffin, I think USC is still the leader, but Michigan really impressed him when he visited. He also has yet to rule out UCLA, Oregon or Notre Dame. Johnson is about to begin is national tour toUSC, Florida, Texas, Ohio State and Michigan. I believe it could come down to Ohio State and Michigan in the end.

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Hickory, NC: Do you see Tennessee landing Eric Berry and Chris Donald? Do you think Harrison smith will leave Knoxville and go to Notre Dame?
Tom Lemming: It's a good question. Eric Berry is the nation's top cornerback. His father played at Tennessee and his uncle played at Georgia. Eric says both schools are equal. Chris Donald is keeping his leader under wraps. It is either Tennessee or Notre Dame, but he grew up a fan of the Vols. I think Harrison Smith's family would like for him to go to Notre Dame, but he, too, grew up a Tennessee fan. He could go either way.

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Huntington, WV: When will Jay Smith and Caleb King commit to Virginia Tech?
Tom Lemming: Right now Virginia Tech is making a major push for both. Caleb King is out from the season with an injury. The Hokies has slowly moved up his list of favorites. Jay Smith is leaning toward Virginia Tech at this point.

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Ponte Vedra Beach, FL (Tim Tebow's school): Tom, I see Noel Devine's short list. Where do you think he is going to school next fall? The Gators would be a perfect fit- they need him now.
Tom Lemming: Florida would be a good fit. Florida State, however, has ties to North Fort Myers with Deion Sanders coming from that school. A couple of possible sleepers could be Rutgers or MIchigan, who his high school coach recently contacted.

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Austin, Texas: Do you think the Iowa Hawkeyes have a good chance of landing either John Clay from Wisconsin or Dale Martin from Illinois?
Tom Lemming: With Clay, you never bet against Wisconsin with an in-state prospect. But with P.J. Hill already shining as a freshman, is there room for both in the backfield? Dale Martin has been talking a lot about Tennessee and Iowa.

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Fort Smith, Ar: Where is Florida St. ranked right now. They seem to be on a couple of highly ranked players list, but not many commitments.
Tom Lemming: There's no panic because it comes down to how many players your are in on during December and January. The Seminoles are in several players throughout the country. I would be shocked if Florida State did not finish in the top 10.

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Beaumont, Texas: What are the chances of LSU signing Terrance Toliver of Hempstead, Texas?
Tom Lemming: LSU has been on Tolliver since the beginning. I interviewed Terrance back on Jan. 1 and he told me his top three choices were LSU, Florida and Texas A&M. I don't think much has changed.

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Indy, IN: How would you rate Clemson's incoming class, and has Willy Korn regressed his senior year?
Tom Lemming: I would rank Clemson at the top of the ACC right now. They are on their way to having one of their best classes. Korn did not look great when I saw him in Cincinnati earlier. He has since come on and should rank among the top six quarterbacks. He is smart quarterback with good arm and excellent instincts.

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Los Angeles, CA: Rumors are Marvin Austin is not interested in Notre Dame, so what are the chances of the Irish landing one of the other impact defensive end and/or tackles?
Tom Lemming: Notre Dame's chances of landing Austin are slim, but he has not officially dropped them. The Irish are still involved with Martez Wilson of Chicago. Other DEs they are chasing are Ben Martin of Cincinnati and Everson Griffen of Phoenix. Will Blackwell and Ian Williams are defensive tackle prospects. Joe Barksdale is another possibility, though I heard both Michigan and Notre Dame have dropped him.

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Greenbelt, MD: Tom - what's the latest on top WR prospect A. Benn? Is it true that Maryland & Illinois are his favorites now over Notre Dame & FSU? What are the chances he signs with the Terps?
Tom Lemming: He looks like Illinois might be his favorite right now. He gave Notre Dame a silent verbal in the June, but has since changed his mind. Nobody knows why that happened.

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College Park, MD: What have you heard about stud LB & WR prospect Greg Little? Now that UNC is making a coaching change will he wait to see who they hire next before making a decision - or did the chances he'll commit to Notre Dame just get better? Is he really announcing after the UNC vs. ND game this Saturday?
Tom Lemming: I don't think he'll announce this week. He may do it at his announcement for the U.S. Army game next week. Greg has not indicated a timetable. I do think the John Bunting firing does help Notre Dame's chances. Stranger things have happened in recruiting, but I'd doubt he would pledge to North Carolian without them hiring a coach.

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Lakeland FL: How do you think the 7 recruits out of Lakeland High school will do at Florida their freshman year?
Tom Lemming: Running back Chris Rainey could be an impact player in a couple of years. But all the Lakeland players can make an impact, including the Pouncey brothers James and Lashaun who are offensive lineman. John Brown is the one key player from Lakeland that has not committed. With all his buddies going to Florida, the Gators would seem to hold the lead.

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SAN ANTONIO TEXAS: TOM, I HAVE BEEN WATCHING JIMMY CLAUSEN THIS YEAR DO YOU THINK HE WILL TAKE OVER AS A TRUE FRESHMAN NEXT YEAR AT NOTRE DAME HE LOOKS GREAT OR WOULD REDSHIRT BE THE BEST OPTION FOR HIM TO LEARN THE SYSTEM FIRST?
Tom Lemming: Jimmy Clausen is coming in with an eye toward playing right away. He will enroll early and wants to be the starter by the spring game. I don't think redshirting is in his future.

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: What's your take on Michael Harris from Tulsa's BTW?
Tom Lemming: I think Michael Harris is the biggest sleeper in the state of Oklahoma. He runs a blazing 10.5 100-meter dash. It looks like a battle between Oklahoma and Oklahoma State for his services.

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Edison NJ: Is there any chance of Anthony Davis coming to Rutgers or is he Ohio State bound? Also, are there any other big time recruits that might come to Rutgers and how do you think their recruiting is going so far this year?
Tom Lemming: Good question. Earlier I failed to mention Ohio State as a possibility for Anthony. The Buckeyes have been working on him for the whole year and made up a lot of ground. Miami was an early favorite but has slid down. Anthony will make his announcement on Jan. 6 at the Army All-American game.

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Comment from Tom Lemming: Thanks for logging on and reading. Look forward to chatting with you again next month.

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