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Urban F. Meyer (Former OSU, CFB and NFL coach)

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kujirakira said:
The facts of Earle's career.
You're saying Earle's name has no currency at all around Ohio State University; only in the Meyer family. OK. I don't buy it, but it is consistent with your agenda to always pretend like Tressel / Urban / whoever are rogue actors outside the rest of the University' paradigm.
I wonder what you would have had to say after Woody's exit.
Nobody had to pull strings to keep ZS employed... they just had to do nothing. And there were reasons for both Meyer and the University as a whole to ... do nothing...
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I'm saying that Earl Bruce was a much liked, even beloved, old football coach, but that he did not in any way come close to carrying any clout in the upper circles of the university that those people would lift finger one to keep his kid on salary. Meyer made a mistake, and he's had to live with the fallout for that mistake. I'm happy to just leave it at that.
 
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Hstead said:
I love how Ord thinks he knows what the Wexners, Schottenstein's, and other donors think. Awesome. He must read minds from afar?
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Know what they think.? No, but I can promise you that I've been closer to that circle of the university than you and Kuji, and none of them did shit to keep ZS on payroll. Urban fucked up. It's as simple as that, and you can twist yourself into all kinds of intellectual pretzels trying to exonerate him for that fuck up and pin it elsewhere (the two black guys perhaps?), but you're argument is hollow and desperate and grasping for straws in your effort to cleanse away the sins of your beloved foosball coach.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Know what they think.? No, but I can promise you that I've been closer to that circle of the university than you and Kuji, and none of them did shit to keep ZS on payroll. Urban fucked up. It's as simple as that, and you can twist yourself into all kinds of intellectual pretzels trying to exonerate him for that fuck up and pin it elsewhere (the two black guys perhaps?), but you're argument is hollow and desperate and grasping for straws in your effort to cleanse away the sins of your beloved foosball coach.
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So you know everyone I know. Got it. Ok Cool, Go Bucks
 
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Let me express a viewpoint that may help ORD be understood. I know from experience that there were people who loved the football team and OSU sports in senior positions. Joe Alutto, the Fisher College of Business Dean and then Provost was someone who enjoyed sports. But there were far more faculty members that I met in the University who were opposed and even hostile to the way people view sports. Ohio State is a research and education institution. Not a business organized around the Ohio State football team. Obviously, throw me in with those who love it, but don't think for a moment that anything any coach at Ohio State has done begins to compare with the scientific achievements of the University in the eyes of donors. I've been there and done that and I assure you that big time donors don't care as much about sports.
 
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Steve19 said:
Mind your manners young man. Someone mentioned you last week, as they described us crowding around the small screen of a computer to watch the Buckeyes in Cape Town. Great memories.
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Know what they think.? No, but I can promise you that I've been closer to that circle of the university than you and Kuji, and none of them did shit to keep ZS on payroll. Urban fucked up. It's as simple as that, and you can twist yourself into all kinds of intellectual pretzels trying to exonerate him for that fuck up and pin it elsewhere (the two black guys perhaps?), but you're argument is hollow and desperate and grasping for straws in your effort to cleanse away the sins of your beloved foosball coach.
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DING DING DING
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I'm saying that Earl Bruce was a much liked, even beloved, old football coach, but that he did not in any way come close to carrying any clout in the upper circles of the university that those people would lift finger one to keep his kid on salary. Meyer made a mistake, and he's had to live with the fallout for that mistake. I'm happy to just leave it at that.
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It's spelled "Earle."
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I'm saying that Earl Bruce was a much liked, even beloved, old football coach, but that he did not in any way come close to carrying any clout in the upper circles of the university that those people would lift finger one to keep his kid on salary. Meyer made a mistake, and he's had to live with the fallout for that mistake. I'm happy to just leave it at that.
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I never said they did lift a finger. The point is that there was no pressure on Urban to do anything to put Earle's grandson in jeopardy. Gene Smith even opposed firing him when Urban finely did step up to take action.
The only thing that was necessary was inaction. Again, you've dodged the question on whether Earle Bruce' name has any currency at Ohio State University. Not with Wexler. Not with some other donor you hand pick. With anyone in a position to influence Urban or suggest he reconsider employing Zach.
That clearly never happened. Urban was the first person with any clout at Ohio State to think firing Zach Smith - the grandson of Earle Bruce - was a good idea. And received pushback himself from the University.
 
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