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What Do Teachers Make

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buckiprof

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The following is old, but I thought some of our educators on the board might enjoy it. I first received this about 10 years ago. It was forwarded to me by a former student who ended up doing the same thing I do. I just received it again today in an email from a more recent student who is in her first year as a math professor, the same thing I do. When I read it today, I first thought how weird to have this forwarded to me again. Then I thought of the educators we have here on this board. So in the event that the Grad21s, Thumps, Stxbucks, etc on the board have never seen this, enjoy!



The dinner guests were sitting around the table discussing life. One man, a CEO, decided to explain the problem with education. He argued, "What's a kid going to learn from someone who decided his best option in life was to become a teacher?"

He reminded the other dinner guests what they say about
teachers: "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."
To stress his point he said to another guest; "You're a teacher. Be honest. What do you make?"
Having a reputation for honesty and frankness he replied,
"You want to know what I make
I make kids work harder than they ever thought they could.

I make a C+ feel like the winner of the Congressional
Medal of Honor.

I make kids sit through 40 minutes of study hall in absolute silence.

 You want to know what I make?
I make kids wonder.
I make them question.
I make them criticize.
I make them apologize and mean it.
I make them write.
I make them read, read, read.
I make them show all their work in math and perfect
their final drafts in English.

I make them understand that if you have the brains,
and follow your heart, and if someone ever tries to
 judge you by what you make, you must pay no
attention, because they just didn't learn."

I paused and continued.
"You want to know what I make?
'I MAKE A DIFFERENCE.'
What do you make?"
 
That's good. My parents were both college profs, and the "those who can't, teach" thing has always pissed me off. If it weren't for those who teach, no one would learn how to "do".

K-12 teachers make way too little, by the way.
 
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K-12 starting salary is $46K here... and as much as $56K in northern Jersey...
and the NJ teacher benefits are second to NONE.. anywhere... any industry...

No co-pay on any doctor, dental or vision...
$10 co-pay on drugs...

As self-employed.. I can't buy those benefits... my medical alone (with significant deductibles) is $1600/month... that's the equiv of $40K gross... and again, doesn't include dental or vision... plus my drug co-pay is outrageous...
 
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"Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."

As an educator, I've always liked this quote by Shaw. While not entirely true, from my observations, it is more true than many would like to admit.
 
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Thump said:
One of my co-workers who retires after next year is making at $72,000.

Not too bad in my book also considering the great benefits and retirement.
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Retiring at $72K? You're right, that's not a bad salary, but when you consider that it took that long in his/her career to reach that level it's not so hot compared with other occupations.

I'm sure that there are districts with solid salaries- which is great -but I've heard an awful lot from people who start as teachers with very low salaries; so low in some cases that they take second jobs during the summer months. I guess my feeling is that, given the importance of the job, there should be more incentive and reward.
 
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I know a woodshop teacher at my childrens HS.. with a number years service over $80K... and BTW, the medical benefits are for life... and their basic retirement is roughly 60% of their last years income...

So when this teacher retires, he gets $48K annual pension plus the best medical plan in existence.. that's not all bad...
 
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Retiring at $72K? You're right, that's not a bad salary, but when you consider that it took that long in his/her career to reach that level it's not so hot compared with other occupations.
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While you couldn't pay me enough to be a teacher... and I think they should get paid better... (My parent's were/are both teacher, though my dad only for about 10 years)... I really don't like the, "I could make more in another job argument" Some would, some wouldn't... believe me... oh, and speaking very generally, you can't buy that kind of job security, especially later in your career.

Meanwhile, my stepfather- who is a teacher retired, and then went back and is getting paid (I think at the 10 year level). So he's getting paid twice these days... (Thump can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Teachers in Ohio can make closer to 80% of their former salary depending on service time) and it PERS so you can up the top salary level by having another PERS job in the summer... And my Stepfather was a park ranger in the summer... so... he's doing quite well.
 
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I am a military instructor, making the same as someone who in the same rank as me could be doing a menial job, with little stress and little responsibility. To me its not about the money. Students who attend our course are awarded 11 college credit hours in only 8 weeks. Although I have to deal with students (kids) who have recently graduated high school, individuals that have limited respect for authority and even less discipline at times, I find it rewarding that i can make a difference in shaping the lives of future AF generations, by teaching the skills these future leaders will need throughout their AF careers
 
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Thump said:
Then write your congressman. That's what I always tell people who feel sorry for what I make.

I wouldn't trade my job for anything. I never look at the clock to see how long until the day is over, I never know what each day will hold, and I work with the best people I could ever imagine working with.

If I had to trade this job for one that I don't enjoy or feel fulfilled in, for $200,000, it would take me a nanosecond to say "No."

I love my job and not a lot of people can say that.
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Good for you.
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