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LitlBuck
Kevin Warren is an ass
Well, the players certainly are not going to blame the coaching staff or the scheme. I agree with what most have said about our LB's,, DB's, tackling, and lack of aggressiveness. I have watched quite a few SCUM games this year and Gardner is At his worst when he is pressured.
Ohio State vs. Michigan – What went wrong: Ugly pass defense 'reared its head again'
Ohio State vs. Michigan – What went wrong: Ugly pass defense 'reared its head again'
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I wouldn't bet money that the sec champ wouldn't jump them. If both osu and auburn win next week, the pollm umbers woll be even tighter
And idk how a team has over 600yds and is inept. Sounds like th defense was the inept ones. A 1 legged qb passing for over 400 yds is nothing buckeye players or fans should boast about. This was a close win ovet an unranked team. I think you see the wrong team as inept...
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tsteele316
Mr. Such and Such
I don't think the team on a 24 game winning streak and arguably the best offense in CFB is inept. Sorry. And no auburn won't jump them. Quit falling for the ESPN tripe.
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It has nothing to do ESPN anything, lol. Cute try. It has to do with one team beating a team ranked #1 in the country and another beating a team that wasn't even ranked in the top 25, and in this season has actually played inept. If you watch games and watch scUM all season, they haven't been good at all, yet we allowed 600+yds to them. I can VH1, CNN, DIY or any offer network and decipher that our defense played terrible, lol. The win streak is great, but when the calculations come out our teams will be extremely close, regardless of the win streak. And our offense is good, but not the best in the nation, one of the best, yes. But our defense isn't nowhere near the top
But auburn's 1 loss would hopefully keep us at #2
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Smh(at myself), auburn can go to hell with the rest of the sec. Bring on meatchicken st, and then Free shoes U.
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lvbuckeye
Silver Surfer
whatever they're doing, it's not working.
i don't know who is to blame, but the back seven is a dumpster fire.
if you put a gun to my head, i'd say that it's not the scheme as much as it's that we have no one outside of Shazier back there.
are they still playing quarters back there? do we not have the talent to man up?
do we HAVE to give the WRs a 10 yard cushion?
i don't know who is to blame, but the back seven is a dumpster fire.
if you put a gun to my head, i'd say that it's not the scheme as much as it's that we have no one outside of Shazier back there.
are they still playing quarters back there? do we not have the talent to man up?
do we HAVE to give the WRs a 10 yard cushion?
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OSUK
Sometimes lucid, mostly confused
I was literally sick at what I watched Saturday. That scUM offensive line hadn't been able to run block, but they made up for it by not being able to pass block. Now, I understand rivalries and amped up emotion, but that should only have helped scUM until we hit them upside the head, stuffed the run, and sacked Gardener. Given those circumstances, Ohio State should have taken control of the game by the 2nd qtr. They didn't.
Gardner can't handle one thing: pressure in his face. Every time we rushed 3 or 4, we were basically conceding chunks of yards and first downs. Given that, why were we only rushing 3 or 4 at crucial moments? I don't get it.
Kudo's to Coach Coombs for telling Tyvis exactly what the play was going to be - but it never should have come down to that.
Another thing that's chaffing my ass: we haven't defended the various elements of the screen game in 3 years.
Santa, all I want for Christmas is a defense that can hold a team to 25 points.
Mark me down as someone who wants to see a major shake up in the upper levels of leadership on the defensive staff. Like Maxbuck says, the whole is not adding up to the sum of the parts.
Gardner can't handle one thing: pressure in his face. Every time we rushed 3 or 4, we were basically conceding chunks of yards and first downs. Given that, why were we only rushing 3 or 4 at crucial moments? I don't get it.
Kudo's to Coach Coombs for telling Tyvis exactly what the play was going to be - but it never should have come down to that.
Another thing that's chaffing my ass: we haven't defended the various elements of the screen game in 3 years.
Santa, all I want for Christmas is a defense that can hold a team to 25 points.
Mark me down as someone who wants to see a major shake up in the upper levels of leadership on the defensive staff. Like Maxbuck says, the whole is not adding up to the sum of the parts.
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Yertle
Pounding out aggression, turns into obsession
I've been watching all the games this year with a good buddy of mine who is just starting to become a big Buckeye fan. In the Michigan game, he turns to me and asks "why do we always play the let-them-catch-it defense?" I ask him what he means, and he explains "we don't rush the quaterback, but we also don't cover receivers. We just let them catch it and then try to make a tackle. Why?"
My good buddy is my 9-year old son. Our scheme is horrible.
My good buddy is my 9-year old son. Our scheme is horrible.
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NastyNatiBuck
Hall of Fame
Spielman said it perfectly on the radio today: Coaches coach and players play. The coaches could be brilliant, but we're just not executing. I've never seen a defense get so little pressure while getting 3 or 4 sacks. Players lost contain a lot. It was not impressive from a fundamental standpoint.
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Onebuckfan
classof76
They just don't look cohesive or consistent. A good defense meshes together..I just don't see unity..everyone to the ball..hustle to the end of every play. They don't have a leader on the field ..especially without Bryant. Boren came over to the D last year and everyone played better,
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bucksn'boobs
Senior
We didn't ever have a bad defense with Heacock and it was different recruiting classes over many years.
That's about all you have to know.
That's about all you have to know.
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How many of those defenses would have been so highly regarded if the Ohio State offense didn't suck the life out of the game every week? I'm not saying this year's defense is on the same level as those, but I think one thing that gets lost in the conversation is the fact that the offenses of the preceding era were executed specifically to benefit the defense as much as possible, while the current offense runs plays and scores more quickly and more often, putting the defense out there more.
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OHSportsFan
Fan of Ohio Sports in Indy
On the other hand, this defense has had plenty PLENTY of opportunities to get off the field (dropped INTs, 3rd down conversions) and they fail to do it almost all year.
Indiana and Michigan, and others, are running 80+ plays on this D because they don't do enough to get the offense the ball back even after making a couple plays. How many straight 3rd down passes did Gardner have 6? All right up the middle/post. That is infuriating to me.
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