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Who's the Greatest Buckeye Multi-Purpose Player? (Vote for 3)

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Who's the Greatest Buckeye Multi-Purpose Player? (vote for 3)

  • Brian Baschnagel (WR, RB)

    Votes: 4 2.0%

  • Howard "Hopalong" Cassady (RB, CB)

    Votes: 166 83.8%

  • Neal Colzie (CB, PR)

    Votes: 4 2.0%

  • Bruce Elia (FB, LB)

    Votes: 5 2.5%

  • Chris Gamble (CB, WR, PR)

    Votes: 128 64.6%

  • Ted Ginn, Jr. (WR, KR, PR)

    Votes: 124 62.6%

  • Cie Grant (LB, CB)

    Votes: 6 3.0%

  • Paul Warfield (WR, RB)

    Votes: 88 44.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 7 3.5%
  • Total voters
    198
  • Poll closed .
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no Vic Janowicz? really? the guy played all three ways and won the Heisman doing it... he played in the NFL for the Redskins and in the majors for the Pittsburgh Pirates. he was Neon Deion when Florida State was still an all girls school...

and what's this crap about playing prior to 1950? Vic, Hop, and Chic Harley are the only ones who would get my vote in this poll. Chic was voted as the best player in the first 50 years of football. not at Ohio State, in ALL of football. without him, we're a MAC-level program right now. he single-handedly put Ohio State on the map.
 
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lvbuckeye;925676; said:
no Vic Janowicz? really? the guy played all three ways and won the Heisman doing it... he played in the NFL for the Redskins and in the majors for the Pittsburgh Pirates. he was Neon Deion when Florida State was still an all girls school...

and what's this crap about playing prior to 1950? Vic, Hop, and Chic Harley are the only ones who would get my vote in this poll. Chic was voted as the best player in the first 50 years of football. not at Ohio State, in ALL of football. without him, we're a MAC-level program right now. he single-handedly put Ohio State on the map.
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Nice write here LV, and what about Cassady?
 
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i said Cassady would get my vote. i didn't feel the need to extoll his virtues since his name is on the list... in fact, of the names on the list, Hop is the ONLY one who would get my vote, considering the fact that he, Vic and Chic are the three names that immediately popped into my mind...

i'm guess i'm writing in two of my three choices... which means i'm not voting in this poll...
 
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lvbuckeye;925704; said:
i said Cassady would get my vote. i didn't feel the need to extoll his virtues since his name is on the list... in fact, of the names on the list, Hop is the ONLY one who would get my vote, considering the fact that he, Vic and Chic are the three names that immediately popped into my mind...

i'm guess i'm writing in two of my three choices... which means i'm not voting in this poll...
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yeah I said that wrong , I was addressing the list of candidates rather than you.
My real list would have to include Vic, Hop and Archie
 
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lvbuckeye;925676; said:
and what's this crap about playing prior to 1950? Vic, Hop, and Chic Harley are the only ones who would get my vote in this poll. Chic was voted as the best player in the first 50 years of football. not at Ohio State, in ALL of football. without him, we're a MAC-level program right now. he single-handedly put Ohio State on the map.
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It's a conspiracy.....

Seriously, if you haven't noticed, the game has changed somewhat since 1916. Chic Harley was 5-foot-7, 150 pounds, which is clearly too small to play football at Ohio State in the 21st-century (see Saddler, Cameron). And Ohio State's first two-time All-American lineman, Iolas Huffman (1919-20), was a huge player at 6-foot-1, 235 pounds (roughly the size of running back Beanie Wells, and several inches shorter and 80 to 100 pounds lighter than the Buckeyes' current offensive linemen). And of course, the national championships from the leather helmet days don't count because they happened before the advent of the forward pass (see any thread about Notre Dame or Michigan). But really, we should pretend that there's no significant difference between the football played today, and that played nine decades ago....

While it's easy to throw around names like Harley and Fesler, and Horvath and Janowicz, what about players like Gaylord Stinchcomb, Edwin Hess, Leo Raskowski, and Donald Scott? Who were those guys, you ask? Well, each was a two-time All-American for Ohio State back in the good old days. Should they get any consideration for our polls? I mean, really, you could go crazy trying to come up with a perfect system for something like this, when in reality these polls are just supposed to be a fun little diversion between games.

That's my explanation. If you Buckeye PhD's out there don't like it, then you can prepare your own polls. :tongue2:
 
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I went with Ginn, Hopalong, Warfield

The last 2 are obvious, even to a youngin like me, and went with Ginn over Gamble, mostly because I can still see Lee Evans (I think?) burning Gamble on a double move in Wisky. The bastard! :biggrin:
 
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as if Hopalong or Bashnagel could compete these days?

why don't we just eliminate everyone but Gamble, Ginn, and Grant. they're clearly bigger, stronger and faster than everyone else on the list.

i understand your argument, but it's ridiculous to have a poll about all time great multipurpose players and then arbitrarily eliminate some the greatest of the multipurpose players because they played too long ago and would be too small today. with his diminutive size, would Archie even warrant a scholarship offer these days?

and nevermind the fact that the Buckeyes play in "the house that Harley built"...
 
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buckeyepride23;938929; said:
Tuff for me but have to say Ginn with the kick offs and the running and Catching Warfield was magic for what i heard and have seen on tape and Cassidey the Legend lives he built the house has to be there...:oh::io:
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I think you mean the House that Harley Built - we'll need to wait for the old-timers poll to vote for Chic, though. :wink2:
 
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LordJeffBuck;925818; said:
It's a conspiracy.....

Seriously, if you haven't noticed, the game has changed somewhat since 1916. Chic Harley was 5-foot-7, 150 pounds, which is clearly too small to play football at Ohio State in the 21st-century (see Saddler, Cameron). And Ohio State's first two-time All-American lineman, Iolas Huffman (1919-20), was a huge player at 6-foot-1, 235 pounds (roughly the size of running back Beanie Wells, and several inches shorter and 80 to 100 pounds lighter than the Buckeyes' current offensive linemen). And of course, the national championships from the leather helmet days don't count because they happened before the advent of the forward pass (see any thread about Notre Dame or Michigan). But really, we should pretend that there's no significant difference between the football played today, and that played nine decades ago....

While it's easy to throw around names like Harley and Fesler, and Horvath and Janowicz, what about players like Gaylord Stinchcomb, Edwin Hess, Leo Raskowski, and Donald Scott? Who were those guys, you ask? Well, each was a two-time All-American for Ohio State back in the good old days. Should they get any consideration for our polls? I mean, really, you could go crazy trying to come up with a perfect system for something like this, when in reality these polls are just supposed to be a fun little diversion between games.

That's my explanation. If you Buckeye PhD's out there don't like it, then you can prepare your own polls. :tongue2:
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IMO you can't compare players from different era's, of course the athletes continue to get bigger, faster and stronger so almost no old timer is going to pass the "could he play today" test. They shouldn't have to.

The only fair way to asses the older players is to compare them to their peers. If it was so easy to do back then why wasn't everyone doing it? Why did certain players stand so far above their contemporaries?

No, any old timer in any sport that completely dominates his peers in his era needs to get the respect and admiration they deserve regardless of how few current fans may have seen them play.


BTW - The pollsters who didn't vote Hop Cassady as one of the 3 best multipurpose players in OSU history are complete fucking idiots. I know some are probably doing it to just be an asshole, so this is just confirmation for you...you are one.
 
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