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Would Woody have had the sense to step away at the right time?

does anybody really believe that MSU was just as good as OSU in 1998? Heck no. OSu choked. Or maybe as Mililani would say, OSU lost because they just didn't want to play hard for their coach.

Man, your hospital needs to take inventory of it's hallucinogenic stock. The 1998 OSU team did not go out on the field all pissed at Cooper. I would agree that the chocked big time in that (big lead late in the game against a far outmanned team at home playing hard to maintain their hold on #1). The 1971 Rose Bowl game against Stanford was a completely different situtation...on the road (the other side of the country as a matter of fact) against a much better foe (the outright Pac-8 champions led by their Heisman Trophy winner), with the OSU team all angry that Woody had pulled the carpet from under them concerning off-time prior to the game. Key players later admitted to purposely not putting forth their best effort.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
does anybody really believe that MSU was just as good as OSU in 1998? Heck no. OSu choked. Or maybe as Mililani would say, OSU lost because they just didn't want to play hard for their coach.

Man, your hospital needs to take inventory of it's hallucinogenic stock. The 1998 OSU team did not go out on the field all pissed at Cooper. I would agree that the chocked big time in that (big lead late in the game against a far outmanned team at home playing hard to maintain their hold on #1). The 1971 Rose Bowl game against Stanford was a completely different situtation...on the road (the other side of the country as a matter of fact) against a much better foe (the outright Pac-8 champions led by their Heisman Trophy winner), with the OSU team all angry that Woody had pulled the carpet from under them concerning off-time prior to the game. Key players later admitted to purposely not putting forth their best effort.

Ok. The players choked. Woody didn't. Or maybe, the players are lying out of their asses, just looking for any old excuse to explain why their asses got kicked. Hmm?
 
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tibor75 said:
Ok. The players choked. Woody didn't. Or maybe, the players are lying out of their asses, just looking for any old excuse to explain why their asses got kicked. Hmm?

Did you even see that game, Kashmir? Or were you still on the boat from Dumbassistan?
 
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3yardsandacloud said:
.., Vegas oddsmakers thought Miami would win,
WRONG... you obviously do not have an accurate grasp of what the Sports Books in Las Vegas are all about... the Line in any sporting event exists to achieve a roughly 50/50 split on each side... since the Book taxes the winner roughly 10% (also known as the vigorish) the Book payes the winners with the loser's money, yet still makes a profit... the reason that the line in the Fiesta was 13 was that most of the general public was convinced that Miami would blow Ohio State out... the line dropped when the Ohio State fans, and the more intelligent betting community started placing more money on Ohio State than the Canes...

in short, the Sports Books did not think that Miami would win, the Sports Books set the line at the spot in which they stood to make the most money...
 
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OK lv, the gamblers in Vegas (people who are putting their money behind their beliefs) thought that Miami would win ... fair enough?

Oh and just a question. Does the sports book have a line to start with before betting begins? If so, what was the opening "line" for the Miami v OSU game?
 
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There has been alot of speculation, over the years (on the other site) that the 71 Rose bowl loss can be blammed on, or attributed to the players partying all night before the game. Or that Woody didnt give the players enough free time, during that time in Pasadena. Now the latter part of that statement might be true, but the first part is definate-ly urban legend. Woody was a creature of habit and somewhat superstitious, if he had follwed a certain regiment that had worked, he always stayed with it. From his first apperance as OSU's coach in a Rose Bowl, until that game (71 Rose) the players and coaches stayed the night (before the game/new years eve) at a monistery located in the hills of California about 45 minutes outside of Pasadena. So if they were partying it was with religious monks, or maybe the coyote's, either way thats where they were that night. As far as Woody not giving the players enough free time? Well all I can say is that they pretty muCH followed the same exact schedule that Woodys other Rose Bowl teams did, prior to that game, and we won all of those games. Sooooo....lets face facts here, that team, the Super Sophs/or 68-70 if you like, had been beaten by a lessor opponent and probably didnt know how to explain that loss (to the press) in particular, (I think we were favored by 10 and a half points?) and were at a loss for answers. After that (73,74,75,76 Rose Bowl games) Woody gave the boys more freedom and the result was.....well you guys know the rest.
 
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