WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

[k2onprimetime]

Talent on the field.

I would never compare the ability of a collegiate football team to bounce back from losing their starting QB to an NFL team in the same scenario. I would ESPECIALLY never compare the two when the level of NFL talent on that collegiate team isn't exceptionally high.

Think what you want. I think we have plenty...

 

[SloopyHangOn]

Think what you want. I think we have plenty...

We do have plenty, but not as much as an NFL team, that's my point.

Do you understand what "exceptionally high" means? Think '02 or '06 Buckeyes.

Comparing the 2010 Steelers to the 2011 Buckeyes is apples to bonsai trees. Given the circumstances, this team is losing more than just the starting QB, they're losing much of the offensive force, but regardless if TP was the only loss the task force of a collegiate football team is placed significantly more on the backs of a few rather than the whole team, like in the NFL. I didn't think I'd have to strip it down that bare for it to be understood, but there it is. Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees, Jesus H Macy.

 

[jwinslow]

Do you understand what "exceptionally high" means? Think '02 or '06 Buckeyes.

There wasn't much NFL talent on that 06 defense, and what little there was had not matured yet into steady forces (Jenkins, Laurinaitis).

I'm not sure that 2011 is exceptionally high, but I wouldn't describe 06 as that either, especially not with the OL and that D.

Given the circumstances, this team is losing more than just the starting QB, they're losing much of the offensive force, but regardless if TP was the only loss the task force of a collegiate football team is placed significantly more on the backs of a few rather than the whole team, like in the NFL. I didn't think I'd have to strip it down that bare for it to be understood, but there it is. Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees, Jesus H Macy.

NFL teams have absolute trash at QB in most circumstances, unlike college teams, which can get by with athletes or outclassing 75% of their opponents if injury or suspension takes away their starting QB.

 

[k2onprimetime]

We do have plenty, but not as much as an NFL team, that's my point.

Do you understand what "exceptionally high" means? Think '02 or '06 Buckeyes.

Comparing the 2010 Steelers to the 2011 Buckeyes is apples to bonsai trees. Given the circumstances, this team is losing more than just the starting QB, they're losing much of the offensive force, but regardless if TP was the only loss the task force of a collegiate football team is placed significantly more on the backs of a few rather than the whole team, like in the NFL. I didn't think I'd have to strip it down that bare for it to be understood, but there it is. Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees, Jesus H Macy.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree

 

[SloopyHangOn]

I think we'll have to agree to disagree

Nah, you and Josh should just agree with me and let it go.

Maybe my justification is a bit off, admittedly I don't pay any attention to the NFL outside of former tOSU players, but that doesn't change the thought that comparing the 2010 Steelers to the 2011 Buckeyes isn't rife with multiple inconsistencies.

 

[k2onprimetime]

Nah, you and Josh should just agree with me and let it go.

Maybe my justification is a bit off, admittedly I don't pay any attention to the NFL outside of former tOSU players, but that doesn't change the thought that comparing the 2010 Steelers to the 2011 Buckeyes isn't rife with multiple inconsistencies.

Its not even about that. It's the point the Steelers were without their QB for some games and still made it to the superbowl. And yes, I know college is different from the pros. Having NFL talent has nothing to do with the comparison....

 

[BUCKYLE]

Its not even about that. It's the point the Steelers were without their QB for some games and still made it to the superbowl. And yes, I know college is different from the pros. Having NFL talent has nothing to do with the comparison....

Exactly. It's not like the 2011 Bucks will be playing the Pats at any point, so the comparison is valid, in my IMO.

 

[SloopyHangOn]

Its not even about that.

So what is it about?

It's the point the Steelers were without their QB for some games and still made it to the superbowl.

So it IS about that.

And yes, I know college is different from the pros.

Oh, okay good. So we're on the same page.

Having NFL talent has nothing to do with the comparison....

 

[SloopyHangOn]

Exactly. It's not like the 2011 Bucks will be playing the Pats at any point, so the comparison is valid, in my IMO.

That's true.

My only qualm with the comparison is that there are so many more variables that goes into the dynamic of winning the Super Bowl than winning the BCS Championship that losing a starting QB for any length of time is going to have a significantly more damaging effect on the team and its goals in the collegiate ranks than it would in the pros.

That's my opinion, that's all.

That being said, there are many reasons why TP could come back and lead this team to a National Championship next year, but it's not as simple of a comparison as Steelers '10.

 

[BUCKYLE]

That's true.

My only qualm with the comparison is that there are so many more variables that goes into the dynamic of winning the Super Bowl than winning the BCS Championship that losing a starting QB for any length of time is going to have a significantly more damaging effect on the team and its goals in the collegiate ranks than it would in the pros.

That's my opinion, that's all.

That being said, there are many reasons why TP could come back and lead this team to a National Championship next year, but it's not as simple of a comparison as Steelers '10.

Agreed. Especially on the variables point. You can lose the first four w/o your QB in the NFL without it affecting your post-season hopes. Not so much in CFB. Then again, in CFB, your first four opponents won't likely be "playoff bound", so there's that.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

We go 12-0 there's no way weren't not in the NC game...

 

[SloopyHangOn]

We go 12-0 there's no way weren't not in the NC game...

Unless we get the USC.

EDIT: I'm calling it now, the NCAA bans tOSU from the post season, the Trojans and the Buckeyes both go as the only two undefeated teams in the country, Mark Cuban offers both of them 50mil a piece to be the #1 and #2 seeds in the Cuban Championship Playoff, others follow suit, chaos ensues...3 years later there's a 64 team bracket and a 6 game regular season.

 

[Buckskin86]

Pryor reports his foot improving

Lost in all the recent controversy is the fact that three-year starting quarterback Terrelle Pryor had surgery in January to repair torn ligaments in his left foot. He suffered the injury late in the Sugar Bowl.

The injury is keeping him out of spring practice, and obviously, with him not due back from NCAA suspension until the Oct. 8 game, he has plenty of time to heal.

And healing he is, apparently. He tweeted today:

"2 the followers that support myself and THEOhio State Buckeyes. Foots getting better had minor surgery Monday jogged last week all smiles"

According to team spokeswoman Shelly Poe, Pryor was referring to a procedure last Monday (March 28) to remove "hardware" from the foot.

http://blog.dispatch.com/buckeyesblog/2011/04/pryor_reports_his_foot_improvi.shtml

Pryor Underwent Follow-Up Procedure
By Brandon Castel

COLUMBUS, Ohio ? Terrelle Pryor was out of his protective boot for the opening day of spring practice last Thursday, but it will be a while before he resumes football activities.

According to Pryor?s personal Twitter account, Ohio State?s senior quarterback began jogging last week, but not before a second surgery on the foot he injured in the Sugar Bowl back on Jan. 4.

A university spokesperson confirmed Monday that Pryor did have a ?follow-up? procedure last Monday to remove ?hardware? from his left foot, which was injured while diving for a first down during the Buckeyes? attempt to run out the clock in the fourth quarter against Arkansas.

Cont..

http://www.the-ozone.net/football/2011/SpringFootball/Pryor-surgery.htm

 

[OilerBuck]

The silver lining to this suspension is that Terrelle doesn't really need to push his ankle to get back and get reps in the offseason. I know I'm really reaching for something positive, but without these extra weeks, I can't help but think he'd really be pressing the limits, going into his senior season.

 

[Buckskin86]

Mel Kiper Jr. weighs in on Buckeye draft hopefuls
Expert sheds light on Terrelle Pryor?s future, draft stock of recent Buckeye graduates
By Jay Clouse
Published: Wednesday, April 6, 2011

ESPN NFL draft expert Mel Kiper Jr. talked about Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor, as well as three former OSU players hoping to hear their names called during the draft in a teleconference on Wednesday.

Kiper said he knows what scouts need to see from Pryor in his final season.

"Accuracy," Kiper said. "Throwing the football is the main thing.

"He has to throw the ball, and he has to be precise with the football, and he has to do the things from a pure passing standpoint."

Pryor's final season, however, will be shortened by the five-game suspension he and four of his teammates face.

Kiper added that he projects Pryor as a tight end at the next level, citing Pryor's size, athletic ability and the transitions other players have made over the years.

"Did he need to play those five games to prove he can be a quarterback? Yeah, he did," Kiper said. "I think there is going to be some concern whether he is going to be a quarterback or a position change, like I said, to a tight end spot."

http://www.thelantern.com/sports/mel-kiper-jr-weighs-in-on-buckeye-draft-hopefuls-1.2145672