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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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Buckeye1;1887542; said:
The federal drug investigation was not over then and still not now.Link? The only thing special about December was that none of the Buckeye players were found involved in the drug trafficking, period.Link? It took time to clear these guys, so when they are cleared, then JT was allowed to informed the NCAA then and there.Link to factual support for any of that statement He wasted no time once he was given the green light. Link? By whom, what was said, when? Believe what you want to believe..as for me, I stick with the Vest.

I am not saying you are...I just wish all these talking heads keep their fat lips shut when they have no clue what a federal drug investigation involves and what kind of danger one can quickly find themselves in.
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That theory has more holes than believing that Tress did not tell because the real Crown Princess Anastasia asked him not to - because she was dating one of the drug sellers, and did not want her penthouse in Atlantis or her alien abduction anal probe experience revealed because of her advanced age - and so Tress complied.

I mean, I can think that, because there is as much support for my theory as for yours.

And I am currently handling several cases concerning on-going Federal criminal investigations (that also involve civil matters separate from the criminal matters), have spoken with the FBI and Justice on them all, and have never been approached with anything remotely like what you are suggesting: that the Ohio State University needed to go along with and refuse to report the tat-gate stuff to compliance, which would lead to a major NCAA violation, and that they would agree to that, even though it would result in the humiliation and (depending on whose fanbase you talk to) disgrace of a beloved and iconic head coach, ALL because the FBI suggested that "they can't talk about it now" for privacy reasons....in a time period from April of 2010 and up to and including - now!

Yeah, because nothing says "Hush, private - don't draw attention" like having every sports fan and investigative sports journalist in America want to know every aspect of the f-in drug deal you say they want to keep quiet.

Got it.
 
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SmoovP;1887552; said:
I don't know anything really, but this is what it looks like to me:

It looks to me as if the NCAA went lenient on OSU during the TatGate deal, by postponing the suspensions until after the Sugar Bowl, only to find out later that OSU was 'lying' about what they knew and when they knew it.

If that's how the NCAA sees it too, it paints them into a very awkward corner.
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whoa whoa whoa

the NCAA made A LOT more money having those players in that game, lets not mix the BS of the NCAA. Take those players out, NCAA loses millions.....FACT
 
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Gator, from what I remember, the University (not sure whether it was their counsel or the Athletic Department directly) was contacted by "the feds" (they never clarified if it was the FBI or another agent of the investigation) and told that they had found memorabilia in raid(s) of one of their suspects in the investigation (Rife), and that he claimed they had been sold/exchanged to him by the players in question.

I highly doubt they were telling the school "Hey, you have guys that just committed an NCAA infraction." I would guess it was more along the lines of "Hey, your kids supposedly sold valuable items to our suspect, but we don't believe them to be involved in our real case. Do you have any other information to add?"
 
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SEREbuckeye;1887515; said:
Remove JT? Remove him from a game or remove him from his post as The Ohio State University Head Football Coach?

If you think a university like ours is going to throw a man - a future state of Ohio legend - under the bus after after 8 BCS Bowl appearances and 9 victories against Michigan, over something like this you are wrong. When you say "Ohio State" to a casual college fan one thing comes to mind and its not our fine business college or our stellar medical labs. Its football. Football is to Columbus as a Swiss Miss roll is to Charlie Weis. The fans that pack the 105,000 seat Ohio Stadium every Saturday have been waiting for a coach with the coaching prowess and football intellect as Jim Tressel's since December 30, 1979. Ohio State sports - football especially - is the sole reason great dot com sites like Buckeye Planet exist. The Ohio State University leaders know who the money maker is in this relationship. Firing a man that has given so much to the various communities of Columbus would cause riots on Lane Avenue. The NCAA can ask our coach to step down, but no way can this upstanding university afford to lose a Scarlet-blooded, Cleveland-born Buckeye like Jim Tressel.
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Think hard about what he did and then think hard about what Woody did in 1978. To most college football fans both are acts that should have a coach removed from his position. Bruce Pearl is probably going to lose his job after the season for doing basically the same thing Jim Tressel did. He lied.

I'm not saying it is my position but I can certainly see how people could call for his removal.
 
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Well from a MI fan point of view I feel bad for the players on the team who were playing by the rules. All they did is show up and work hard and believe in what your school stands for. It's truly a shame the SR's next year have to put up with this BS. BS is all for some stupid Tatoos.

BTW from everything I have read and looked at Tressel is in trouble, more trouble then even I thought at first.
 
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germ;1887651; said:
BTW from everything I have read and looked at Tressel is in trouble, more trouble then even I thought at first.
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There is a huge recruiting pool in Ohio this year. Somewhere Brady Hoke is on the phone with a nurse relating the fact that he has had an erection lasting more than 4 hours.
 
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Oh8ch;1887677; said:
There is a huge recruiting pool in Ohio this year. Somewhere Brady Hoke is on the phone with a nurse relating the fact that he has had an erection lasting more than 4 hours.
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I would have to agree, I am not gong to state anything negative here about Tressel or the team.

I have jabbed my friends a bit, but the reality is a lot of SR's are not going to have the year they thought they would. Who's the kid coming back for his 6th year? It's a shame what has happen.

No program should have to go through situations like this IMO, nor do I want them to, well maybe Bama:biggrin:
 
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germ;1887688; said:
I would have to agree, I am not gong to state anything negative here about Tressel or the team.

I have jabbed my friends a bit, but the reality is a lot of SR's are not going to have the year they thought they would. Who's the kid coming back for his 6th year? It's a shame what has happen.

No program should have to go through situations like this IMO, nor do I want them to, well maybe Bama:biggrin:
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Tyler Moeller. Great kid.

I think the guys will be fine. Not the SR season maybe they hoped for, but maybe this really bonds them all together in an us against the world mentality and they play out of their minds all year!
 
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I still see them having a good season.....maybe im stupid but I just dont want to vacate wins....I hope all the punishment is relegated to Tress (IE longer suspension, fine etc) rather than the program as a whole.... Thats just me, I think the team will be good next year
 
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bassbuckeye07;1887693; said:
I still see them having a good season.....maybe im stupid but I just dont want to vacate wins....I hope all the punishment is relegated to Tress (IE longer suspension, fine etc) rather than the program as a whole.... Thats just me, I think the team will be good next year
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I agree with what you say but I can't see wins being vacated not happening.
 
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Here's a question. After all the smoke clears, the NCAA finds out that Tressel indeed withheld the information because of an FBI investigation and was told by both the FBI and OSU legal to not say anything; can/will the NCAA give any punishment out?

Not saying this is true, or will happen. Just a general question, because i honestly don't know the answer. IMO, the FBI > NCAA in a situation like this, and i would much rather be in trouble with the NCAA then the FBI.
 
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