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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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bassbuckeye07;2005244; said:
maybe I have the time lines mixed up......I did pick up in Smith's comments that this was known or being investigated at the time of the aug 12th hearing...and he eluded to this in particular back then...is that what you are saying?
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Yep - the letter that detailed the hours worked/not worked by the 5 players was sent to their lawyer in late June, so tOSU investigators should have known the details about that same time, and presumably the NCAA would have been made aware of it not long after that.

So I'm saying that since the NCAA should have already known about this before the meeting in August, and at that time they weren't talking about a failure to monitor charge, why would they bring it into play now?
 
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BB73;2005249; said:
Yep - the letter that detailed the hours worked/not worked by the 5 players was sent to their lawyer in late June, so tOSU investigators should have known the details about that same time, and presumably the NCAA would have been made aware of it not long after that.

So I'm saying that since the NCAA should have already known about this before the meeting in August, and at that time they weren't talking about a failure to monitor charge, why would they bring it into play now?
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So how long do you think they have been planning on extending these suspensions then without telling anyone? :sad panda:
 
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BB73;2005249; said:
Yep - the letter that detailed the hours worked/not worked by the 5 players was sent to their lawyer in late June, so tOSU investigators should have known the details about that same time, and presumably the NCAA would have been made aware of it not long after that.

So I'm saying that since the NCAA should have already known about this before the meeting in August, and at that time they weren't talking about a failure to monitor charge, why would they bring it into play now?
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because we are all having a melt down?
 
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Simply unbelievable. It's almost getting this bad:

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I have to admit - I cared a whole lot more about this stuff when the team actually appeared to be competent.

I hope the team doesn't implode from all this (including both on-field ineptitude and off-field screwups), but it's hard to see how it can avoid doing so.
 
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People who love OSU have reacted to this mess going back to Dec in a variety of ways. We have those who basically said that there's no problem here. We had those who wanted coaches, AD, & compliance fired, all players involved moved on, and take strong NCAA medicine to get the program on track. I tried to take the middle ground. I thought Tressel had to go, players should be suspended, and since that seemed to be the crux of the problem, rebuild from there. I'm at a different place now.

Today was the tipping point. I have had it. I will cheer for the Bucks the rest of the year and hope they win every game - knowing they won't even come close. But the reality is that this kills us with recruiting, this is almost surely a lame duck coaching staff, and the administration has not been able to convince some of these players, despite the mess at hand, to obey NCAA rules. They knew the NCAA and media were out to find any real or imagined problem, and here they did this. Until today I thought this scandal would set us back a season or two. This thing appears to be imploding, and if it is, it's time to burn it down and rebuild it with a group of people who hopefully will have the character to do things the right way.

Tressel, Pryor, Posie, Herron, et.al. have done some great things on and off the field, but they have also destroyed something I love. It's gonna take me a while to get over it - probably as long as it takes for us to put a team on the field that wins BIG championships within the rules. I have a feeling I'm going to be stewing a while.
 
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I am glad Tressel is gone - this is his creation and we are left to watch the train wreck both on and off the field and the slow clean up. He screwed up off the field and hopefully that wreck will end. We also have to watch the train wreck on the field -- it looks a lot like 2004 after the Iowa game. Only I don't expect a young Troy Smith to emerge this year. Clean up the program, get a real offense and recruit offensive linemen and pass rushers.
 
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redstatebuckeye;2005267; said:
I am glad Tressel is gone - this is his creation and we are left to watch the train wreck both on and off the field and the slow clean up. He screwed up off the field and hopefully that wreck will end. We also have to watch the train wreck on the field -- it looks a lot like 2004 after the Iowa game. Only I don't expect a young Troy Smith to emerge this year. Clean up the program, get a real offense and recruit offensive linemen and pass rushers.
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His creation? What is he God? Is he supposed to be there every moment for the players to hold their hands? Come on, don't be an idiot. While what Tressel did was inexcusable, putting ALL of this on his shoulders is just piling on.
 
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Was anyone hoping that the Nebraska game would be the turning point for the season? Get the 4 bad boys back, get a boost in the offense, and maybe win a few games more.

All I can say now is, forget them, hope for the defense to hold every opponent to 0 points, and let Basil win the next games with FGs.

I am sick of this crap. They didn't learn a thing.
 
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The crazy thing about all this is if you asked one of our guys if it was worth it, I'm 110% certain you'd get a resounding "NO!"

Ask the same of one of the Miami players and I'm not sure that you'd get a similar reply.

There seems to be a breakdown in the system somewhere between intention and implimentation.

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