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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%
  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%
  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%
  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%
  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%
  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%
  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%
  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%
  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%
  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%
  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%
  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%
  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%
  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%
  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%
  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%
  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%
  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%
  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%
  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%

  • Total voters
    313
redguard117;2260939; said:
Just by having a team in the area/state, the Big Ten network is added to the basic cable package of that region. It doesn't matter how many are watching, they get paid by the number of cable subscribers.

Now, with the Big Ten network available, it is very likely that more people will start watching as well. That is largely irrelevant to the money part of the equation.

JBaney45;2260947; said:
That is not necessarily true, that will have to be negotiated before these cable companies try to pass on this expense to their subscribers. It isn't clear the Big Ten will have the leverage to pull this off, obviously they believe that they can.

It all depends on what the contract the BTN signed with the big cable companies. I read somewhere that the BTN could have conceivably put in a clause as simple as this "The states where a Big Ten team is located, the cable company pays X and it must be on basic cable. If a Big Ten team is not located in the state, the rate s Y"

If a clause like that is already in, then the big cable companies in Maryland and New Jersey AUTOMATICALLY have to pay the higher rate and put the BTN on basic without further negotiation.

That would probably apply to most national cable companies the BTN already has contracts with.

Is this true? Maybe... but it would be alot easier if it was :biggrin:
 
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viperdriver09
The ACC has to steal someone big rather quickly like Penn St or risk losing their two best teams right after the season. FSU was already mad and after this years treatment by the BCS the writing is on the wall. UF will clock any FSU attempt at the SEC but the B12 would be willing to pay a good part of the exit fee. If FSU goes so will Clemson. Bye Bye ACC.
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SeminoleWarrior31
Viper, I would not like the move but I think you are right. The ACC should immediate go after the likes of Penn State, Cincy, and Louisville.
33 Minutes Ago
:lol:

At least we now know where Penn State stands in the minds of the people...
 
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Nate Silver (of the New York Times and FiveThirtyEight) should know that the Big Ten brand was already in the process of being diluted years ago. Adding Maryland and Rutgers didn't speed up the process or anything.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/20/expanding-eastward-could-dilute-big-ten-brand/

But the main rationale for adding the schools seems to be economic: the prospect that they would give the Big Ten, and its cable network, access to the New York and Washington, D.C., media markets.

On that account, the decision may be questionable. Although Rutgers and Maryland are in densely populated areas, they also compete against a number of other Division I football programs for fans and attention.
 
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Piney;2261017; said:
It all depends on what the contract the BTN signed with the big cable companies. I read somewhere that the BTN could have conceivably put in a clause as simple as this "The states where a Big Ten team is located, the cable company pays X and it must be on basic cable. If a Big Ten team is not located in the state, the rate s Y"

If a clause like that is already in, then the big cable companies in Maryland and New Jersey AUTOMATICALLY have to pay the higher rate and put the BTN on basic without further negotiation.

That would probably apply to most national cable companies the BTN already has contracts with.

Is this true? Maybe... but it would be alot easier if it was :biggrin:

I highly doubt this is true, it was enough of a push just to get them to carry it in the original Big Ten states originally..the cable companies wouldn't have signed away their rights for further negotiation, they too have people employed smart enough to realize that further expansion was a very real possibility.
 
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JBaney45;2261051; said:
I highly doubt this is true, it was enough of a push just to get them to carry it in the original Big Ten states originally..the cable companies wouldn't have signed away their rights for further negotiation, they too have people employed smart enough to realize that further expansion was a very real possibility.

Those smart people at the cable co would also recognize you lock-in the rate while the product is untested and least desirable rather than renegotiate after it has established a proven successful business model and expanded its viewer draw across the nation, especially into the mid-atlantic/northeast corridor.
 
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