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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by Mike80, Jul 26, 2007.

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  1. Boston College

    25 vote(s)
    9.3%
  2. Cincinnati

    16 vote(s)
    5.9%
  3. Connecticut

    6 vote(s)
    2.2%
  4. Duke

    16 vote(s)
    5.9%
  5. Georgia Tech

    50 vote(s)
    18.6%
  6. Kansas

    43 vote(s)
    16.0%
  7. Maryland

    66 vote(s)
    24.5%
  8. Missouri

    88 vote(s)
    32.7%
  9. North Carolina

    26 vote(s)
    9.7%
  10. Notre Dame

    187 vote(s)
    69.5%
  11. Oklahoma

    64 vote(s)
    23.8%
  12. Pittsburgh

    39 vote(s)
    14.5%
  13. Rutgers

    38 vote(s)
    14.1%
  14. Syracuse

    16 vote(s)
    5.9%
  15. Texas

    111 vote(s)
    41.3%
  16. Vanderbilt

    13 vote(s)
    4.8%
  17. Virginia

    38 vote(s)
    14.1%
  18. Virginia Tech

    54 vote(s)
    20.1%
  19. Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    24 vote(s)
    8.9%
  20. Add some other school(s) not listed

    14 vote(s)
    5.2%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    I would rather if the next 2 schools that end up in the B1G are "football schools" As much as I personally despise ND, I have to believe they are in they end game.

    In any case.... adding say UVA and UNC -
    East
    Ohio State
    Skunkbear
    Sparty
    Ped
    Virginia
    Maryland
    Rutgers
    North Carolina

    West
    Nebraska
    Wisconsin
    Iowa
    Minnesota
    Purdue
    Northwestern
    Illinois
    Indiana

    That's pretty equally balanced, I think (and thinking in terms of football) The east has two "powers" (OSU and you know who) as does the West (Neby and Wisky (though, this assumes Wisky is here to stay, long term, which I'm not sure I can believe)) and 4 teams which are reasonably likely to win the division any given season (OSU, Skunk, Ped (sanctions notwithstanding), Sparty) as does the West - if you assume one of Purdue Northwestern or Illinois can have the occasional strong year or two. Then, there's the bottom feeders, although, when they cheat Carolina can field a pretty good football team...

    Thinking in terms of Basketball, the East is clearly stronger, but the West doesn't look like bull[Mark May].
  2. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    "Sources close to WVU with ties to Ohio State President E. Gorden Gee confirm that the Big 10 has all but decided to accept the applications of Georgia Tech and UVA and is seriously considering adding UNC as the Big 10’s 17th member as insurance against potential U.S. Department of Education sanctions against PSU that could lead to Penn State being ineligible to receive federal student aid due to violations of the Clery Act." and "current or future ACC members Duke, Wake, Pitt, and Syracuse currently do not have suitors within the big 4 conferences."

    :biggrin:

    I don't like Pitt.
  3. cincibuck

    cincibuck Like a deer in the headlights... then and now.

    "Left out: Pitt, Boston College, Duke, Wake, Syracuse" and Cincinnati... Lots of hearts being broken here and given the strength of the academic side of several of these schools, along with an inability to pay the bills for football I have to wonder if several won't be forced to drop the game. How long can some of these schools continue with a program that can't pay its own way in an era when the pressure to lower tuition is going to do nothing but mount?

    I know for a fact that the faculties of Miami and U Cincinnati have been rumbling about how much the school has to shell out to keep the football program going.
  4. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    I think what's going to happen is after the Big 4 Conferences are set, the rest are going to end up being like D-IAA. I don't know what they'll call it, but I think what needs to happen is schools like UC or Miami, OU.. etc.. have to start competing with a group of schools in the same "tier" as them. As it is, none of these teams is ever going to win the NC. Have them play for some other championship.

    Not sure I articulated that real well. Point is, there are ways that schools like UC can remain able to field a football team without having to compete financially with the Big Boys.
  5. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    Indiana (and Tom Crean) would totally dominate that division.
  6. cincibuck

    cincibuck Like a deer in the headlights... then and now.

    To my eyes the East looks loaded - depending upon what happens to Penn State- possibly overloaded. I can see no way, long run, that Wisconsin and Nebraska balance out against Ohio State and Michigan and I wouldn't count PSU just yet. In 4 years they could bounce back.
  7. OhioSt88

    OhioSt88 Newbie

    Yellow Jackets

    This expansion has been about bringing tradition, academic standards and geography to the Bug Ten. Rutgers was always a no brainer because of their New York / New Jersey TV audience, despite a low college football penetration in that market. Since Notre Dame (good riddance) and Texas both said no, reaching into the football rich southern market has been the Big Ten's goal. Virginia will not go without Virginia Tech and Va Tech is not in the Big Ten plans. Maryland was good add with the DC market and helps unravel the ACC (and Notre Dame). Now, Georgia Tech is the prize. An academic and football tradition fit that would add football crazy households to the Big Ten network. No one else will be added until Ga Tech comes aboard unless it is a step to get them aboard. Once Geirgia Tech is added, the last team will be Kansas or North Carolina. Probably NC, so that it hurts the ND alliance to the ACC.

    Not a bad hall for the Big Ten. New York, DC and Atlanta markets and a few pokes at ND's new "conference". That is killing two birds at once!:highfive:
  8. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    East
    Ohio State
    Skunkbear
    Sparty
    Ped
    Virginia
    Maryland
    Rutgers
    North Carolina

    The Big two and Little [strike]eight[/strike] six has a familiar ring to it.
  9. MU-Buck

    MU-Buck Newbie

    NO way the B1G adds UVA, UNC AND Georgia Tech!!! I don't even see GT as truly being in play... Sure, GT would want in, but no way Delany takes them! It's just like a good HC putting the word out he may be interested in another job, just to have leverage at his own school for more money or years on his contract.

    By expressing interest in schools other than UNC and UVA the B1G puts pressure on these two schools to make a decision. IMO, we are going after UVA (Va Tech will have no issues getting into the SEC so legislatures won't block the process) and UNC (as long as Slive will take NC State, and because of TVs in the NC market, I think he will). IF UNC does not go the way of the B1G, then there are some safety nets... Syracuse, Kansas (if the B12 tv contract allows it), ND (a longshot even if the ACC falls apart, and it will) and finally, Pitt (if PSU gets slammed by the federal government, another AAU Pennsylvania picks up the slack, and PSU will have no leverage to block it!)....

    Again... GT, Texas, FSU, etc will NOT be in the B1G! I truly feel if Toronto showed interest, they'd have a better shot than ANY of the aforementioned universities! Delany will keep this conference East of Nebraska, West of New Brunswick, South of Minneapolis, and North of Chapel Hill (IMO).
  10. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck Slam Thompson!

    Man, are you clueless.

    Every miserable, man-hating, overweight, unmarried female in the USA watches that [Mark May]. And there are a lot of those women around.
  11. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member Bookie

    It is the only channel the nacho bitch ever watches.
  12. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Kiss the ring, Fredo.

    fify
  13. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Kiss the ring, Fredo.

    Au contraire. Haven't you been reading your mid-major boards.


    1. Big schools attempt to go to 4 superconferences.
    2. NCAA attempts to split off the have-nots from the superconferences.
    3. NCAA/Superconferences get their ass handed to them in anti-trust lawsuit.
    4. All conferences made equal and full national revenue sharing follows.
  14. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Retired Super Hero

    GT lands the B1G squarely in SEC territory.
    what other "available" school does that?


    correct. we don't have counties, we have parishes.

    and Mardi Gras is the pinnacle of debauchery.
    something we do better than anyone else.




    no thank you.
    i don't want to lose any of our current rivalries.

    if we change conferences, our entire schedule will be filled with forced rivalries that just don't feel like rivalries.
    in other words will play 8 games against Arkansas.
  15. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Kiss the ring, Fredo.

    BTW, much positive rep for anyone who can make a gif of the scene on the beach in last week's Boardwalk Empire with Delaney's head on Gyp Rosetti's body and Swofford's head sticking out of the sand.

    And Swarbrick is like the cousin standing on the beach. After bludgeoning his family to death, Delaney walks past Swarbrick and says, "you owe me."
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2012

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