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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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Joe Pa Thetic said:
The Pedsters are wondering if there will ever be a review of the Freeh Report. University President Barron has been a "liar" ever since he arrived on campus. I do wish there would be a review of the Freeh report by the university president, just so Barron could come out and say that the university reviewed Freeh's report and stands behind Freeh's findings.

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I still hold out hope the living defendants get this inside a courtroom and every scrap of EVIDENTS gets subpoenaed.

I think they will find out that Freeh "made assumptions" in his report from trying to keep the worst/most vile information from public knowledge.

How gloriously funny would it be to watch them deal with those FAX! ?
 
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AJHawkfan said:
Do they even have a trial date set for Curley, Schultz or Spanier?
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Delaney and the B1G Illuminate are paying off the judges to keep it out of court. They fear a mass uprising if the people find out they are actually the ones running a child sex slave ring and just pinned it all on poor Jerry and Joesus. That's why they killed Kennedy you know.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Nah. That happened, but I see that line as Paterno just being funny to a kid calling him out of the blue. I don't think he actually leveraged the news for a job.
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It's quite conspicuous no matter how you look at it though.
He also becomes the key witness... but only after the Feds are on top of it. In the intervening ~10 years or so, he didn't have a care in the world for what was continuing to go on.
Meanwhile Paterno patched things up and kept it all in-house and off the record.

It's real hard for me to look at that collection of events and not see an obvious cover up.
Everyone likes to focus on what they didn't do... but for me the actions they did take appear quite deliberate.
I'd say similar about the Winston situation. We'll never know what happened, because while police obtained warrants and phone records for her and her friends... they never got Winston's or Casher's phone records ... and of course now we know Casher had a video of the sex act itself. They didn't get the footage from the bar (which has a lot of security cameras to protect themselves from liability after a string of incidents). They didn't try to find the taxi driver. They didn't process Winston's DNA.
They investigated the victim rather than the crime. They leaked the full police report to FSU Athletic Department and his lawyer. Those are all very deliberate decisions.

McQuery chose to raise the issue with Paterno after being told he didn't have future employment at Penn State.
Paterno offers him a job.
Paterno talks to the AD and school (IIRC it was the legal rep for the school)
Despite knowing Sandusky had a previous incident investigated, all of those actors chose to not contact police or any other outside agency.
McQuery suddenly develops a conscience when the FBI gets involved many years later and becomes a key witness.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
I wish I had access to every angle of every penn state game. I'd show them why more than half of their list is just them being wrong...and then I'd show them how much [Mark May] they get away with. One of my favorites is them bitching about the lack of holding being called on us last year. Just watch Bosa and see all the holding they didn't call against PSU that game.
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That's basically just "Welcome to the B1G... where holding doesn't exist". This conference just doesn't call it unless it's especially egregious.. and even then, they might not. If it's benefited anyone "unfairly" it's the Wisconsins and Minnesotas with their 1-dimensional power run games. Minny has only just now got back on that train, but they had some beastly stables before Mason got fired.

ORD_Buckeye said:
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Because this needs to be posted on every page of this thread.
 
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kujirakira said:
McQuery chose to raise the issue with Paterno after being told he didn't have future employment at Penn State.
Paterno offers him a job.
Paterno talks to the AD and school (IIRC it was the legal rep for the school)
Despite knowing Sandusky had a previous incident investigated, all of those actors chose to not contact police or any other outside agency.
McQuery suddenly develops a conscience when the FBI gets involved many years later and becomes a key witness.
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That's one of the cult's biggest fantasies. It was Schultz, and he was the VP for Finance, which meant at some point on a flow chart there was a box that said University Police Department a couple of layers underneath the box that had his office in it. Contrary to the cult's constant bleating, he was not the "head of the police department." He was never in his life any form of licensed law enforcement officer. FACT! In fact, he wasn't even a lawyer (EVIDENTS), which would have made him an officer of the court with certain, required reporting responsibilities (Note that, for such an overwhelmingly and gravely legal situation, Paterno & his lackeys never brought an actual lawyer into the discussion).
 
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Joe Pa Thetic said:
Louie Freeh has requested that the lawsuit by Graham Spanier against him be moved out of Centre County (where PSU is located). Naturally, the Cult views requesting the lawsuit be moved out of Penn St.'s home county as EVIDENTS that Freeh is "scared [Mark May]less" and "on the run."

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And not evidence Paterno true believers are an insane cult completely out of touch with the outside world.

They are so confident they are in the right, shouldn't they be confident in the success of their cause against Freeh anywhere with any audience?

Furthermore, wouldn't a conviction outside of the cult hive mind be the absolute best testament to the righteousness of their cause?

Conversely, isn't demanding the trial take place in the cult hive tantamount to admitting they and their sick friends do not think in the same way as the rest of the world?

I'll answer all my questions myself: yes.
 
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kujirakira said:
It's real hard for me to look at that collection of events and not see an obvious cover up.
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Think back to 2007 - a few years before the whole Sandusky molestation thing hit the headlines.... Remember when PedState fought tooth and nail to keep Joesus' salary from becoming public record. It was only after they lost in court, (and again at the Pennsylvania State Supreme Court) until they actually disclosed anything - and when they did, the amount seemed suspiciously low - right around $1M/year......This never sat right with me.....

Why fight so hard to hide something that (if true) would actually paint the university in a positive (football-is-not-the-most-important-thing-here) kind of light? At $1m, Joesus' salary would've been a bargain - Pete Carroll was pulling in over $4m per at usc; Kirk Ferentz was making over $3m....... We're supposed to believe that for no good reason, PedState fought all the way to the State Supreme Court to hide the fact that they were paying their coach One Million dollars per year? Something doesn't smell right here.....

If that number isn't true, then what was the real number? How and why were the numbers manipulated?

I am no investigative reporter, but I'll throw my hypothesis out there...... the University knew there was some incriminating/unethical/illegal shit in their finances and didn't want anyone sticking their nose in them, for fear of where it might lead or who it might send to prison. When they were forced to disclose the numbers, they cooked up some nothing-to-see-here crap to try to keep everyone from wanting to take a second look at them....

It does make me curious though - if they were so bound and determined to keep something as mundane as the football coach's salary out of the public eye, imagine what else they'd be willing to go to the grave for?
 
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AJHawkfan said:
Think back to 2007 - a few years before the whole Sandusky molestation thing hit the headlines.... Remember when PedState fought tooth and nail to keep Joesus' salary from becoming public record. It was only after they lost in court, (and again at the Pennsylvania State Supreme Court) until they actually disclosed anything - and when they did, the amount seemed suspiciously low - right around $1M/year......This never sat right with me.....
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I was in the business or department that processed returns to potentially be examined by a certain agency for what was deemed the "central" area and included PA, NJ, OH, NY, MD, etc... Saw several famous returns including the aforementioned individual in about 2008/2009 ish so I did get to see income, deductions, etc...

The number was right at 1M, with about half of it being "given" back to the university. Now whether the university had fringe benefits that allowed them to pay the salary they did you can make those assumptions on your own.
 
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Fremont Buckeye said:
I was in the business or department that processed returns to potentially be examined by a certain agency for what was deemed the "central" area and included PA, NJ, OH, NY, MD, etc... Saw several famous returns including the aforementioned individual in about 2008/2009 ish so I did get to see income, deductions, etc...

The number was right at 1M, with about half of it being "given" back to the university. Now whether the university had fringe benefits that allowed them to pay the salary they did you can make those assumptions on your own.
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Paging @ORD_Buckeye , but I'm fairly certain the University has given Paterno many "loans" they forgot to collect on.
 
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