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2004 Freshman

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by BrutusBobcat, Jul 12, 2004.

  1. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

    I agree about the linebackers and defensive backs but I can't agree about the receivers. There is no reason to believe Dukes and Lyons can't get PT, especially after JT's comments today. Other than Holmes, which receiver has really done anything? I suspect Hollins and Bam will be given a good look considering they are seniors and Roy Hall has some experience but PT is wide open at wideout, IMO.

    It's gonna be tough for any of the young d-lineman to get minutes, not because they don't have the talent, just from a numbers standpoint. I agree that Barrow and Abdallah have the best chance.

  2. Sloopy45

    Sloopy45 Pimp Minister Sinister

    Nutty: "Other than Holmes, which receiver has really done anything? I suspect Hollins and Bam will be given a good look considering they are seniors and Roy Hall has some experience but PT is wide open at wideout, IMO."

    What about Gonzalez? I think he's going to have a solid, breakout season. If you take Holmes, Hall, Gonzo, Bam, and maybe Hollins, I don't see many more balls being out there.


    What is the two-deep for the LBs? Out of curiousity.
  3. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

    Sam: Carp, Freeman
    Mike: D'Andrea and Schlegel are 1A and 1B right now
    Will: Hawk, Matthews

    I'll get back to you on the receivers in a sec.
  4. Sloopy45

    Sloopy45 Pimp Minister Sinister

    Nutty: Kerr isn't in the rotation? What's the deal with that?

    "Mike: D'Andrea and Schlegel are 1A and 1B right now"

    D'Andrea has impressed the coaches enough to push Schlegal for the Starting job?? That's great, good for him. You got any more tidbits for me regarding this?
  5. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    kerr's in some hot water
  6. CleveBucks

    CleveBucks Serenity now

    My "significant impact list"

    Teddy Ballgame
    Rory Nicol
    Tony Pittman
    Marcus Freeman
    Ben Person
  7. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

    He won't be with the team until after the Cincy game. Departmental Policy I believe was the given reason.

    Yeah, I guess they have been alternating working with the 1's.

    From what I read today the most impressive freshmen to this point in practice have been Ginn, Nicol, Dukes, Lyons, Brandon Underwood, Freeman, Pittman, and Haw.
  8. ysubuck

    ysubuck Be water my friend.

    As thin as the TE position is, I think we are going to see a lot of Nicol this season. The kid is physically ready to go. Great blocker with soft hands and runs great routs. We may see more of him than we think if he is a better blocker than Hamby.

    Everyone knows that running back is the easiest transition to make from high school to college and college to pro. The difficult thing for some kids is pass protection. If Haw can pick that up, then he'll see significant time. Coach already said that he doesn't consider Pittman and Freeman freshmen because they've been with the team for so long. I just don't think that they'll be able to keep a talent like Haw off of the field. The kid is a homerun threat everytime he touches the ball. If he gets the corner or breaks one to the second level, he's going to be tough to catch. He's our big back with special speed. Duane said that he has a different level of speed than the other backs that he has seen, and that's cause for excitement.

    I will maintain that Person will be starting at one of the guard spots by the time the Buckeyes go to Raleigh. He is too good to keep off the field. He has the physical tools, so that isn't a question. How fast he can pick up the system is the question. I think he's the only O lineman that will see time this season. Mitchum, Skinner, Rehring will all RS.

    And, as always, Ginn is IN! It's (finally) going to be very exciting to see the return game this season. Ginn and Holmes returning kicks/punts. That is a double threat. Who do you kick to? There are going to be some special teams homeruns this season, as well. Count on it!
  9. FKAGobucks877

    FKAGobucks877 The Most Power-Drunk

    ysubuck is the only person in this entire thread to give Haw serious consideration. I tell you guys no lie - Haw is going to be scary good. Better than Pittman. Pittman has or had a slight advantage right now, simply because he was here in the spring. I agree he had a great spring game, but I have two problems with that. Number one, obviously, it is only one scrimmage. Not a whole lot to judge talent with. At the same time, however, it is all we have, and he did look good. But, secondly, NOBODY has seen Haw do anything at this level yet. Nobody knows whether Haw would have run for 250 in the spring game, or whether he would have ran for 10. My money is on Haw. I think he catches on quick, and I think he passes Pittman on the depth chart. This would be a good vbet - Haw or Pittman, who has the better year?

    As for the other frosh, to me all you have to do is read the link to the Tressel comments above. Some O-linemen may break the two deep, but it won't be for a while.
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2004
  10. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

    Have you read this whole thread or did you skip to the last page? :p In my first post I mentioned that I think Haw is going to play this year. Pittman has to be given the early edge since he enrolled early and looked awfully impressive in the spring game. I certainly think there are enough carries to go around and next year you don't want only one of your 2 returning running backs to have any game experience. I think both Pittman and Haw play. Ross and Mo Hall's health will determine how much they do.
  11. kippy1040

    kippy1040 Junior

    Do any of you think that Coach Tressel will let Haw or Pittman play more than Ross and Hall ? Both are seniors and maybe JT will take that into consideration. He has done that before. I remember Ross was inserted in the Indiana game of 2002 and Wells didn't like that too much. But the next week
    Jonathon Wells went wild against Northwestern on his 1st play from scrimmage for a TD. Sometimes I have to wonder if Coach does that on purpose to fire up his senior players. Of course if there are injury factors then I can understand, but it looks like the coaching staff has at least, a PLEASENT PROBLEM to deal with here.
  12. ysubuck

    ysubuck Be water my friend.

    In reading between the lines of coach Tressel's comments about Hall, I wouldn't look for much from him.

    It tears me up to say that, because I was really hoping that he would bounce back from the knee problems and have a banner year. I think he'll see some spot time, but nothing major.

    I would imagine that if Ross isn't getting it done, or gets banged up, then Haw and Pittman are the guys that are going to have to shoulder the load. Joe is a nice back, but he's 250 pounds and a bruiser. He isn't going to bounce anything to the outside.

    I really look for Pittman and Haw to get the lion's share of the carries as the season wears on. I'm just not convinced that Ross can stay healthy. I hope I'm wrong, but he hasn't given me any reason to think otherwise.
  13. CleveBucks

    CleveBucks Serenity now

    It's definitely possible, but Haw will have to show that he can learn how to pick up the blocking schemes and protect the QB. Pittman has a huge head start in that respect. By mid season they may be neck and neck.

  14. flybuckeye

    flybuckeye Sophmore

  15. wadc45

    wadc45 Bourbon, Bow Ties and Baseball Hats Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    Nice work Rivals...

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