2009 tOSU Recruiting Discussion

[NightmaresDad]

Sorry, brain fart. Names so much a like I just typed it too fast without thinking. But see, you knew who I meant. You think we can sign another _____ Hall or Maurice _____ in our next class?

Well, we should get a Hall this year.
Don't think there's a Maurice out there for us.
And remember, we got another Wells last year, too.

And BTW - Brewer did want to be a Buckeye - very badly.
When Cooper visited Troy, he didn't even know who he was and walked up to another kid who he thought must be the stud Rb and started talking to him.

 

[Redhawk]

ESPN - Recruiting needs: Ohio State Buckeyes - Big Ten

 

[Redhawk]

Rivals.com Football Recruiting - Commit predictions 2009
(free)

JEREMY CRABTREE
Recruiting Editor
MIKE FARRELL
Recruiting Analyst
JAMIE NEWBERG
Recruiting Analyst
BARTON SIMMONS
Recruiting Analys

Tajh Boyd

Marlon Brown

Marcus Hall

Morgan Moses

 

[stowfan]

If we only get Marcus, I for one will be happy

 

[MONTbigBuck]

I saw in the Drummond thread that Craig's father said CD had a 2.5 GPA, and an ACT of 22. I know the Bucks were very high on Drummond early, with some speculating that we backed off for academic reasons. Just curious if these scores could get him into OSU, or if there would be other reasons we wouldn't attempt to get into the picture late. With missing out on Adams, CD sure looks appealing as a monster DT that he will likely grow into. Any thoughts from the crew?

 

[pnuts34]

Rivals.com Football Recruiting - Commit predictions 2009
(free)

JEREMY CRABTREE
Recruiting Editor
MIKE FARRELL
Recruiting Analyst
JAMIE NEWBERG
Recruiting Analyst
BARTON SIMMONS
Recruiting Analys

Tajh Boyd

Marlon Brown

Marcus Hall

Morgan Moses

Wow these were the same experts who had Pryor unanimously going to scUM! LOL!!! I'll take these picks with a grain of salt

 

[PlanetFrnd]

Wow these were the same experts who had Pryor unanimously going to scUM! LOL!!! I'll take these picks with a grain of salt

I'm struggling to remember the last meaningful piece of Buckeye information from Rivals.

 

[sepia5]

I've been trying to understand how Moses may have trouble clearing tOSU's admission standards, but has UNC and UVA at the top of his list. Those are two of the best public schools in the country. I know the admission standards for athletic programs don't necessarily mirror those for general student bodies, but I have a hard time believing he could get past the door at UVA and not OSU. Anyone have any insight?

 

[mross34]

I've been trying to understand how Moses may have trouble clearing tOSU's admission standards, but has UNC and UVA at the top of his list. Those are two of the best public schools in the country. I know the admission standards for athletic programs don't necessarily mirror those for general student bodies, but I have a hard time believing he could get past the door at UVA and not OSU. Anyone have any insight?

OSU is in an entirely different league than UNC and UVA. Being at the top garners a lot more attention from all angles. That being said, they have to be a lot more careful with taking risks on football scholarships than these other two. Academic troubles and off-field issues at either of those schools would be small potatoes compared to the fallout at OSU.

 

[billmac91]

OSU is in an entirely different league than UNC and UVA. Being at the top garners a lot more attention from all angles. That being said, they have to be a lot more careful with taking risks on football scholarships than these other two. Academic troubles and off-field issues at either of those schools would be small potatoes compared to the fallout at OSU.

No inside info, but I'm not sure how hard tOSU really pushed for Morgan to become a Buckeye.

Could be wrong.

 

[sepia5]

OSU is in an entirely different league than UNC and UVA. Being at the top garners a lot more attention from all angles. That being said, they have to be a lot more careful with taking risks on football scholarships than these other two. Academic troubles and off-field issues at either of those schools would be small potatoes compared to the fallout at OSU.

Eh, I have a hard time believing that just because OSU is in another realm in terms of D-1 football prestige and success, they are less likely to take risks with kids academically. Maybe, though, the real reason is a difference in the standards set by Jim Tressel and Butch Davis, but I've never heard about what these standards are set at for any football pogram in terms of GPAs and test scores. Schools in the SEC certainly seem to take risk after risk, and that conference has been a media darling for the past 5-10 years, during which time they've had unrivaled success, so I just don't buy the rationale that we won't take chances on academically borderline kids just b/c we're under heightened media scrutiny given our success.

Maybe OSU never went after Moses as hard as some suspected, but it does seem--and I'm not just talking about OSU here--like kids often get into schools with higher academic standards for their general student bodies, even when they were apparently unable to clear admissions at schools with lesser general academic standards. I've never understood how this works, and I've never read any well articulated explanation.

 

[sandgk]

Maybe, though, the real reason is a difference in the standards set by Jim Tressel and Butch Davis, ... .

Nail meet hammer.

After the nightmare academic situation left by Cooper and the ensuing (drastic) improvement in squad GPA and academic achievment under JT, I think there is no longer any doubt that Tressel is committed to student-athlete with the proper emphasis on the prefix.

 

[alpo]

Eh, I have a hard time believing that just because OSU is in another realm in terms of D-1 football prestige and success, they are less likely to take risks with kids academically. Maybe, though, the real reason is a difference in the standards set by Jim Tressel and Butch Davis, but I've never heard about what these standards are set at for any football pogram in terms of GPAs and test scores. Schools in the SEC certainly seem to take risk after risk, and that conference has been a media darling for the past 5-10 years, during which time it's had unrivaled success, so I just don't by the rationale that we won't take chances on academically borderline kids just b/c we're under heightened media scrutiny given our success.

Maybe OSU never went after Moses as hard as some suspected, but it does seem--and I'm not just talking about OSU here--like kids often get into schools with higher academic standards for their general student bodies, even when they were apparently unable to clear admissions at schools with lesser general academic standards. I've never understood how this works, and I've never read any well articulated explanation.

Me either. I'm totally ignorant. Some clarity would be nice! Moses seems certainly a perfect example of why.

 

[stowfan]

I believe this is strictly an Ohio State thing. During Cooper's tenure, up to quarter of his recruiting classes failed to meet NCAA standards. Additionally, the University was embarrassed by Cooper's players leaving on a regular basis for academic reasons. Things such as Kenyon Rambo's GPA coming up in the national media caused the administration to shudder.

I believe when JT was hired he was told this had to stop. When you look at the Big Ten All Academic Team you will see JT has done quite well. As I've said many times before, these are the good old days.:osu:

 

[Onebuckfan]

OSU is in an entirely different league than UNC and UVA. Being at the top garners a lot more attention from all angles. That being said, they have to be a lot more careful with taking risks on football scholarships than these other two. Academic troubles and off-field issues at either of those schools would be small potatoes compared to the fallout at OSU.

Exactly. I think in time tOSU and JT will will be willing to take some risks with certain kids. Right now JT is all about creating a culture where past problems can't be recycled when a young man has troubles in or out of the classroom. He is trying to create a culture where these kids can succeed. Its tough to go to bat for a recruit if you don't think the system is in place for him to succeed. It is in JT's nature to give kids second chances and help those who've made mistakes succeed, more as adults than football players. I think JT believes he can create an enviroment to help those on the wrong path be it academically or lifestyle choices get on the right path.