2010 TSUN offseason arguments & shenanigans

[buckeyemania11]

is this the year that the BARWIS!!!!1!!1!!! effect finally kicks in?

 

[NFBuck]

Now Scum fans are resorting to video games and the development of a player in said game to rationalize/defend their opinions that certain players will be better next year.......

To answer the question, HECK YES he will be better. Go ahead and laugh but I put forward as proof "Campus Legend Mode" of ESPN College Football (a game that could teach Les Miles a thing or two about clock management!). In year one you don't have the body, you get hurt more and you blow games as you learn your teams sets, your teammates skills and how much time you have (or don't have) to make a play.

Just like Tate's real life experiences in year one. Oh, and I won the Heisman in year two of the game. Not saying that Tate can match my feat. I *was* playing on year two of what would have been the last L. Carr team (I had to audible the heck out of that guy's moldy offensive play book!).

 

[NFBuck]

is this the year that the BARWIS!!!!1!!1!!! effect finally kicks in?

Yes. Until mid-October...then it's next year.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Well, I don't know what that guy was talking about... I just set the old playstation to run a Campus Legend Mode too, and Little man Tate not only didn't win the Heisman, but he got desperately injured in his Soph. season and ended up transferring to Hofstra (Fact: for the academic's)

I don't know... this game seems an unreliable indicator... though... I have to agree, Les Miles could learn a thing or two from it.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Things are getting interesting in weaselville with regards to the Dorsey/Freep saga....

From the Scout public football forum:
Scout.com: Dorsey and Family was LIED TO BY REPORTERS @.....

Here is a take from a player's parent (page 3), Craig Roh's father:

"As the parent of a UM football player, this makes me livid. It is unimaginable that a "home town" newspaper would take a shot at a recruit like the Free Press did. The last trumped up scandal with the excess practice time was bad enough. It's one thing to take shots at the coach, its another thing to take a shot at an 18 year old high school senior. This is borderline child abuse and clear-cut racism. Do you think they would have done the article on a white kid from Scottsdale, Az?

To give you all another perspective....Craig grew up in a predominately white, high socio economic high school. He's had plenty of opportunities to see the other side of life, in club basketball and other venues.We sent him to a public high school rather than private to give him more real life experience. He could have gone to Stanford or any of the Ivy League schools and been surrounded by smart, "predominately white" football players. That was not his goal or ours as his parents. It was/is our goal that Craig experience a variety of people, cultures, etc. and be able to reach out and help others not as fortunate as him. We believed UM could be the place where he could get great football and experience a wider variety of life.

Dorsey sounds like a kid who has made mistakes, but is ready to move on. I, for one, look forward to my son having the opportunity to be part of his future success in any way that he can help!"

How does one make the leap of logic from a kid admitting that he committed multiple robberies to writing about it being a case of child abuse/clear cut racism?

Did the victims of his crimes somehow suffer less because he was under 18 at the time? Did they feel better knowing he was black? If they would have shot him would they have gone to jail for child abuse or a hate crime?

I don't know about you but when I confront burglars in my home the first words out of my mouth usually aren't "Oh thank god its just a juvenile black kid making a poor decision! I thought I was in real fucking trouble there for a minute when I heard the sliding glass door break and walked in and found some strange guy standing in my living room. Hey you want some milk and cookies before you go?"

 

[NFBuck]

How does one make the leap of logic from a kid admitting that he committed multiple robberies to writing about it being a case of child abuse/clear cut racism?

Did the victims of his crimes somehow suffer less because he was under 18 at the time? Did they feel better knowing he was black? If they would have shot him would they have gone to jail for child abuse or a hate crime?

I don't know about you but when I confront burglars in my home the first words out of my mouth usually aren't "Oh thank god its just a juvenile black kid making a poor decision! I thought I was in real fucking trouble there for a minute when I heard the sliding glass door break and walked in and found some strange guy standing in my living room. Hey you want some milk and cookies before you go?"

Clearly, you're not "all in".

 

[Jaxbuck]

Clearly, you're not "all in".

What gave it away?

 

[NFBuck]

What gave it away?

Opposable thumbs.

 

[muffler dragon]

I don't know about you but when I confront burglars in my home the first words out of my mouth usually aren't "Oh thank god its just a juvenile black kid making a poor decision! I thought I was in real fucking trouble there for a minute when I heard the sliding glass door break and walked in and found some strange guy standing in my living room. Hey you want some milk and cookies before you go?"

Was it this guy?

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2007/09/nakedrobber_175x125.jpg

Whoops. I forgot. You said juvenile black kid. This can't be him.

 

[TheIronColonel]

Anybody else get the impression that Mr Roh is a big fan of Craig James?

 

[buckeyesin07]

Things are getting interesting in weaselville with regards to the Dorsey/Freep saga....

From the Scout public football forum:
Scout.com: Dorsey and Family was LIED TO BY REPORTERS @.....

Here is a take from a player's parent (page 3), Craig Roh's father:

"As the parent of a UM football player, this makes me livid. It is unimaginable that a "home town" newspaper would take a shot at a recruit like the Free Press did. The last trumped up scandal with the excess practice time was bad enough. It's one thing to take shots at the coach, its another thing to take a shot at an 18 year old high school senior. This is borderline child abuse and clear-cut racism. Do you think they would have done the article on a white kid from Scottsdale, Az?

You'd think that people this stupid would know enough not to open their mouths in the first place. Why am I not surprised that this is coming from a UM supporter? Those guys have come to transcend illogical rambling, incoherent thought, and hyperbole in their attempts to justify RR's antics as head coach.

 

[localyokel]

Things are getting interesting in weaselville with regards to the Dorsey/Freep saga....

From the Scout public football forum:
Scout.com: Dorsey and Family was LIED TO BY REPORTERS @.....

Here is a take from a player's parent (page 3), Craig Roh's father:

"As the parent of a UM football player, this makes me livid. It is unimaginable that a "home town" newspaper would take a shot at a recruit like the Free Press did. The last trumped up scandal with the excess practice time was bad enough. It's one thing to take shots at the coach, its another thing to take a shot at an 18 year old high school senior. This is borderline child abuse and clear-cut racism. Do you think they would have done the article on a white kid from Scottsdale, Az?

To give you all another perspective....Craig grew up in a predominately white, high socio economic high school. He's had plenty of opportunities to see the other side of life, in club basketball and other venues.We sent him to a public high school rather than private to give him more real life experience. He could have gone to Stanford or any of the Ivy League schools and been surrounded by smart, "predominately white" football players. That was not his goal or ours as his parents. It was/is our goal that Craig experience a variety of people, cultures, etc. and be able to reach out and help others not as fortunate as him. We believed UM could be the place where he could get great football and experience a wider variety of life.

Dorsey sounds like a kid who has made mistakes, but is ready to move on. I, for one, look forward to my son having the opportunity to be part of his future success in any way that he can help!"

Gee, if little Craig is real lucky, maybe he can tag along with Dorsey the next time the poor abused baby decides to burglarize the home of some deserving child-abusing racist. Then, if the sweet boys have the terrible misfortune of being prosecuted (uh, I mean "persecuted") for their frivolity, the well-rounded young Mr. Roh can be afforded the opportunity for the real-life experience of a tSUN slammer. What better place to encounter a variety of people, cultures, etc.? I have no doubt his bunkmate, Big Sally, will be thrilled to open Craig's wide eyes to the other side of life. He may even invite Craig to reach out and help as he experiences that coveted wider variety of life.

Idiot.

PS re the tSUN website replies: I don't think it's "defamation of character" if it's true.

 

[Jerry Seinfeld]

A new recruiting year is upon us and hope springs eternal. It's no surprise to see outlandish recruiting class predictions like this one. They are a dime a dozen and surface on every team board out there. Who can blame them? Most recruitniks - including myself - can find themselves dreaming about a best case scenario class:
Scout.com: First Crack at 2011 Class

What makes this one remarkable is that it is more realistic than what the head honcho on that website is selling to his subscribers. Why? Unlike GBW's list, it doesn't include Braxton Miller & Ron Tanner

Besides that whole Ohio State hurdle for Braxton, there's the matter of how UM will look to Braxton:

1) Tate or Devin takes the QB position by storm, leading UM to a successful 8+ win season, guaranteeing a 2-3 year wait for a chance at starting.

2) Tate, Devin & Denard all struggle at the QB position badly enough to leave an opening for Braxton... and a new head coach (or rumblings that such will happen after 2011).


Yes, Braxton to UM makes a lot of sense

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Well, Jerry, if I said Ohio State would get half of the recruits on a list which included 11 names of guys who had NO interest in Ohio State, but were each Top 5 national recruits and 11 names which were life long Ohio State fans who have done nothing but dreamed of playing for the Buckeyes, a couple of whom are really, really, good and a number of others who are more close to average, it'd look like a pretty convincing list.

I mean, it would be a true statement if I said "I think Ohio State will land half of these guys: James Louis and Kyle Prater"

 

[NFBuck]

A new recruiting year is upon us and hope springs eternal. It's no surprise to see outlandish recruiting class predictions like this one. They are a dime a dozen and surface on every team board out there. Who can blame them? Most recruitniks - including myself - can find themselves dreaming about a best case scenario class:
Scout.com: First Crack at 2011 Class

What makes this one remarkable is that it is more realistic than what the head honcho on that website is selling to his subscribers. Why? Unlike GBW's list, it doesn't include Braxton Miller & Ron Tanner

Besides that whole Ohio State hurdle for Braxton, there's the matter of how UM will look to Braxton:

1) Tate or Devin takes the QB position by storm, leading UM to a successful 8+ win season, guaranteeing a 2-3 year wait for a chance at starting.

2) Tate, Devin & Denard all struggle at the QB position badly enough to leave an opening for Braxton... and a new head coach (or rumblings that such will happen after 2011).


Yes, Braxton to UM makes a lot of sense

They're buying this hook, line and sinker over there. Many are dreaming of a Miller/DePriest package and Beaver is stoking the flames. Unbelievable.