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2012-13 Big Ten Basketball

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Bucky going down ties us with them for #3 in the B1G, 1/2 a game up on TSUN, 2 games behind Indiana.


For Ohio State to tie for the B1G regular season championship, the following has to happen:

Indiana has to lose both of its remaining games: home vs Ohio State, @TSUN

Michigan State has to lose one of its remaining three games:@TSUN, home vs Wiscy, home vs Northwestern

Ohio State has to win their last two games: @Indiana, home vs Illinois


It can happen. Beat Indiana, romp on Illinois for Senior Day, and root for TSUN to win out.
 
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You know, Purdidn't is 7-9 in the Big Ten this year with a horrific loss to Northworstern.

If they were a little better in the early season (not losing to EMU especially), being .500 in the Big Ten up to this point with a 19-10 record (they are 14-15 with a 7-9 conf record) would probably have them in the dance. :shake:
 
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Boy that is really a first for me. It just goes to show you that teams can win without the 3 pointers. I wonder if any college teams actually have play books where they actually study and run plays like back when i played. Just asking.
 
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OhioState001;2310794; said:
Bielein almost choked that game away. Had McGary a 44% FT shooter in the game with 8 seconds left and you know MSU is going to foul you. Almost as genius as not guarding the inbound against Evan Turner.
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Hey, they did a lot better job guarding Ben Brust this year. :biggrin:
 
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Stole this off of the MSU site. Not much of a chance of playing on Thursday now

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If anyone watched the "Inside Selection" show on BTN Monday, Jerry Palm had Ohio State as a No. 7 seed. Called Ohio State "Homecourt Heroes".

But if you look at the Bracket Project's Matrix, Palm is the outlier, since most everyone else had OSU a 4 or 5.

http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm

The BTN show was actually informative.
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Ha, he has been on that "Homecourt Heroes" tag for a while now regarding OSU. I tweeted asking him if Columbus moved West tonight, citing his Homecourt Heroes comment - no response.

I really don't think he has any appreciation for the difficulty of playing in the charged environments against great teams that were gunning for OSU all year long. Does anyone really think it's equally difficult to win against top-25 teams on the road in every game? C'mon now, some teams like Wisconsin get lucky and catch IU when they're not thinking they're going to get a tough game. Other teams like OSU get the other team's best shot on the road every time. The teams play in the same venue but not really the same opponent.

But part of the problem with casting OSU as a homecourt hero is they didn't have any road losses to bad teams, and had won a decent number of games away from home - every one of their road losses was to an NCAA tourney team, and they were all gunning for OSU, all have been in the top-25 this year for significant stretches of the season, and there literally were no opportunities for this team to win on the road against a team ranked in the RPI between 40 and 106 at this point. So you either have to beat a top-25 team on the road when they're fired up to beat you or else you have no quality wins. Very big gap there between 40 and 106, and probably many of the teams that don't get the "Homecourt Hero" label avoid it because they get chances to play teams in the bottom half of the top-100 on the road. OSU had no true road games against teams around 50-100 in the RPI, just a neutral game against Washington.
 
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Palm & RPI

Palm has worked with the RPI since the early 90's and has since been considered the RPI expert. I've always considered it to be a very simplistic and flawed measurement, particularly with far more sophisticated systems out there (i.e. Sagarin, Pomeroy, Massey, etc.).

His mistake, partly, was sticking with this flawed system. In fact, I think OSU had an RPI of 21, which would have made them a very strong six seed instead of his seven seed assignment. Therefore, he even went slightly against his own system to lower the OSU seed and fulfill his "Homecourt Hero" theory.
 
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Interesting that Wisconsin played TSUN and Indiana only once each, while the OSU and MSU played each of the other 4 top teams two times each. I know it doesn't work like this, but seems like a pretty good argument to call MSU/OSU more deserving co-champs (assuming we both finish 13-5) then IU, TSUN, and certainly Wisconsin.
 
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michigan down by 12 against Purdue with 11 minutes left. Not sure if it's a good thing or bad thing.

Good: They are eliminated from B1G title contention
Bad: Not looking like they can beat IU unless they have a huge turnaround off this
 
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