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*2024 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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BuckBackHome said:
How do they even recruit any portal players right now while Jimmuh is interviewing with anyone who will waste the time? Seems like wasted effort to recruit players for next season.
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They have pretty much already missed out on recruiting any very valuable players in the first portal window. Most major guys are already committed somewhere. They gotta hope some quality guys leak into the spring window and hope they can recruit them. Picture should be clearer then with or without Harbaugh. There’s less quality in that portal window though as it’s mostly guys who failed to win starting jobs rather than more proven players looking for a better place to play
 
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CMic said:
Michigan had good recruiting classes from 2019-2022. They averaged around 10th.
They will have a lot of players drafted this year. Some will be 3 stars, but most will be 4 stars.
Iowa is usually #40ish in recruiting. Not even close.
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My point exactly. If Iowa can develop with the talent they can bring then there’s no reason Michigan can’t do the same with the talent they bring in as opposed to a Buckeye team that is always younger because of four and five stars moving on.
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Defense should be good but they’ll still have holes and the big issue for them will be depth. They have none.
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And as I recall the convo after The Game and the disaster in the Cotton Bowl, the bucks d line was gassed because they didn’t play their twos or didn’t think the twos were ready. Lack of coaching or lack of depth? Either way, it would have left the Bucks facing the same problem if Sawyer and JJT hadn't decided to come back.

As a community, we seem to consistently under estimate Michigan and for most of two decades we were right. Now the Bucks are 0 - 3 in the 2020s and bitching about 2020 and Stallions doesn't erase that record.

I believe that the Bucks SHOULD BE the better team next November based on the returning talent, but IF the NCAA does nothing, IF Hairbrain remains, Michigan will have a top ten team. Why? Because they have a Natty to recruit with, because they have a stud RB in Marshall to go with September Heisman Donovan Edwards, because they have a year to find a decent QB or coach up 4 star frosh Jadyn Davis, because they open the season with five home games, because USC and Oregon are home games, because Penn State is off their sked, because Washington lost their QB and their coach, and because they have money, fan base, facilities, and tradition.
 
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cincibuck said:
And as I recall the convo after The Game and the disaster in the Cotton Bowl, the bucks d line was gassed because they didn’t play their twos or didn’t think the twos were ready. Lack of coaching or lack of depth? Either way, It leaves the facing the same problem if Sawyer and JJT hadn't decided to come back.
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There’s going tho have be a philosophical change on the coaching staff to do more substitutions. If they don’t JTT and Sawyer coming back doesn’t change a lot, it just extends the issue and kicks the can down the road.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
If Harbaugh returns, I think they’ll probably have 9-10 wins going into Columbus but that has more to do with what the rest of the B1G doesn’t have more than what scUM has. 2024 is more like a “good” pre 2020 Harbaugh team than 21-23 teams.

If Harbaugh leaves things get much murkier though.

A lot hinges on QB play too here. I think they have to find a serviceable transfer QB, they aren’t going far with anyone they currently have
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Have you looked at their schedule in 2024 ? It's brutal .... :pimp:
 
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cincibuck said:
Until he screwed up and turned his kid into his OC Ferentz did a good job of keeping Iowa in the bowl picture with 2 and 3 stars and developed many of them into NFL players.

Michigan has been doing the same thing the last three years. No reason to believe that they can’t continue to do it unless they get hammered by the NCAA.
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9 wins in B1G West vs undefeated in B1G East / new B1G ... is a whole different thing.
Ferentz also always leans on Iowa State as his 1 big OOC game.
 
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zbuck said:
Have you looked at their schedule in 2024 ? It's brutal .... :pimp:
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Maybe at first glance. But it’s less brutal when you think about it.

Texas week 2 is very rough

USC is at home. USC is pretty average in real life once you go deeper than the name. They’ll be even less threatening next year without Williams.

Washington is @ Washington but with all the turnover there that game is no longer brutal

Oregon is at home as well, rougher game but at home.

Texas they’ll probably lose. They’ll beat USC and Washington and Oregon is probably a toss up game.

They skip Ped State.

I don’t see anymore than 2 losses before they head into Columbus. So they basically will be a good Harbaugh team pre 2020. WITH Harbaugh though, things change significantly if Harbaugh leaves.
 
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kujirakira said:
My interpretation of this is that he wants assurances Michigan will go full Miami with the NCAA cheating.
But nobody talks about that angle. Or his need to dodge sanctions before his name becomes stale.
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Didn't Miami get the benefit of being private where TCUN can't use that loophole? I may be forgetting details.
 
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LovelandBuckeye said:
Didn't Miami get the benefit of being private where TCUN can't use that loophole? I may be forgetting details.
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I thought it was a "You're just the NCAA. What are you gonna do? Nothin'! That's what you're gonna do."
But I didn't follow it very closely.

The NCAA can either "investigate" and release their "findings" and then try to dish out some "punishment" that will show the NCAA has no teeth, or they can sit there doing nothing.
Based on their president saying that M*ch*gan didn't cheat, my money is on "nothing".
So, players selling their own property is a bigger crime than ruining the integrity of the game. Way to set precedent, NCAA.
If I'm wrong, come back to this thread and make me eat crow. It'll be delicious crow. But I'm pretty sure I won't be eating it.
 
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Zurp said:
I thought it was a "You're just the NCAA. What are you gonna do? Nothin'! That's what you're gonna do."
But I didn't follow it very closely.

The NCAA can either "investigate" and release their "findings" and then try to dish out some "punishment" that will show the NCAA has no teeth, or they can sit there doing nothing.
Based on their president saying that M*ch*gan didn't cheat, my money is on "nothing".
So, players selling their own property is a bigger crime than ruining the integrity of the game. Way to set precedent, NCAA.
If I'm wrong, come back to this thread and make me eat crow. It'll be delicious crow. But I'm pretty sure I won't be eating it.
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No Miami was even worse. They had them dead to rights and they did something improper in the investigation so the NCAA just threw out the baby with the bathwater rather then then trying to salvage it.
 
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kujirakira said:
My interpretation of this is that he wants assurances Michigan will go full Miami with the NCAA cheating.
But nobody talks about that angle. Or his need to dodge sanctions before his name becomes stale.
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I think tcun have made it pretty clear that they're going to go full-Miami no matter what and have been doing so since the beginning of both investigations. That being said, I think he knows that the ncaa has the goods on him after they notified the B1G and whatever they brought to that courtroom, so he wants an assurance that if they do come down with sanctions, he can't be touched.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Maybe at first glance. But it’s less brutal when you think about it.

Texas week 2 is very rough

USC is at home. USC is pretty average in real life once you go deeper than the name. They’ll be even less threatening next year without Williams.

Washington is @ Washington but with all the turnover there that game is no longer brutal

Oregon is at home as well, rougher game but at home.

Texas they’ll probably lose. They’ll beat USC and Washington and Oregon is probably a toss up game.

They skip Ped State.

I don’t see anymore than 2 losses before they head into Columbus. So they basically will be a good Harbaugh team pre 2020. WITH Harbaugh though, things change significantly if Harbaugh leaves.
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@Washington will be tough simply due to the travel. History has shown B1G teams struggle out west. We should still win, but I anticipate it to be tougher than most would predict
 
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