5 players suspended for 5 games in 2011 regular season (Appeal has been denied)

[NFBuck]

I have to admit that I'm tiring of hearing how much money these players bring in. The money is generated by the program and the brand it has built up over the last 100 years. If any single Buckeye had chosen to go elsewhere, not a single dollar would have been lost.

Amen.

 

[strohs]

..it's like you want to enter the work force, but there's a law that says you can't until you do at least three years of internship, and oh by the way you are only paid sustenance during that period, and there's a whole compliance department to make sure that you don't work overtime or get a second job.....

How is that really any different than a business major working an unpaid internship so that he/she is able to get a job upon graduation? Other than the compliance department obviously...

 

[JBaney45]

Absolutely. I'm not sure why Gene Smith, Tressel, or the NCAA wants these guys active. From what I've seen, most Ohio State fans want them suspended for the game.

It seems fairly obvious to me. And to top it off, the bowl game is essentially meaningless. You'd think our administration would prefer starting the clock on the suspensions ASAP.

I don't know if you can call the bowl game meaningless..it's big in terms of our positioning for next season and you never know how that's going to turn out.

Think about what the win over Oregon meant for our positioning this year...granted we didn't take advantage of that.

Let's not forget about getting a bowl win against the SEC, as much as it might get discounted (as if it was ever a level playing field to begin with).

 

[JBaney45]

How is that really any different than a business major working an unpaid internship so that he/she is able to get a job upon graduation? Other than the compliance department obviously...

The intern usually doesn't generate hundreds of thousands for the company

 

[Nutriaitch]

what about that LSU D Lineman who was suspended for the season until they made it to the SEC championship game and eventually played us in the 'ship... alluva sudden he can play?

he was suspended for a calendar year the previous december.
the length of suspension was determined well before we knew we would even be in the title game.


on to y'all situation.
i'm torn as to how i feel.

part of me wants to see y'all kick the piggies asses, so i would like y'all to be at full strength.

the other part of me is jealous/mad/confused.

Cam's daddy shops him around? no penalty
this happens at OSU? 5 games, but good to go for bowl
our RB is ineligible for a yet to be reported academic issue*? done until further notice, appeal pending.


*not sure what he did. if it was simply failing grades, i don't think we could appeal that, so there has to be more to the story.

 

[MaxBuck]

... most Ohio State fans want them suspended for the game...

:atom:

 

[Diego-Bucks]

How is that really any different than a business major working an unpaid internship so that he/she is able to get a job upon graduation? Other than the compliance department obviously...

What if you were such an awesome intern that the company offered you thousands of dollars, but you wouldn't get course-credit if you did? In the world of "what ifs".

 

[kchogfan]

You're married?1?

Married. 28 years.

 

[kchogfan]

Given the history of your school's conferences, that is quite the ironic statement.

Then again, no need to sell things when you are on a payroll eh?

You are entitlled to your opinion, you are not entiled to your own set of facts. If you have proof, show it, if not, then STFU. No player on Arkansas' team is on a payroll.

 

[NFBuck]

You are entitlled to your opinion, you are not entiled to your own set of facts. If you have proof, show it, if not, then STFU. No player on Arkansas' team is on a payroll.

Bad move.

 

[Emperor Brutus]

When I was a child I loved watching all of the athletes come through Ohio State, it was fun thinking all the players loved their school as much as I did/do. This was back in the era of my life where Ohio State was set up as the good guys and every other team was their foil in a very Saturday morning cartoon context.

Growing up a little and listening to some of them speak during interviews I thought this guy isn't a genius, maybe I'm being unfair he isn't in class at the moment he is talking to a reporter. There was still a part of me that wanted to hold on to that idealized notion of "my team".

By middle school high school there was no denying that some players were using the school to get to the NFL, that is why my favorite player during my lifetime will always be Eddie George won the Heisman, left early but came back and finished his degree. Hell, after Ohio State he went on to earn his MBA from Northwestern. Football was important to him, Ohio State was important to him, but education was important to him as well.

Then I went to Ohio State and had multiple athletes in classes that I looked at with raised eyebrows, while I'm not going to throw out any names I knew they wouldn't be there if not for football/basketball. One very notable player skipped a class where the syllabus stated attendance would be counted as part of your grade, every time he wasn't there and the attendance sheet was sent around his name was always on the list.

Now my opinion has changed so dramatically (not just by this incident) that I feel like there should be a D league for the NFL and NBA. Kids that go to school on a scholarship should sign-up for four years and do their best to earn their degree, if you leave early you pay it back. The point is this is not just some sports team it is a team representing a University it's student body and it's alumni if you aren't coming to the university for an education then you shouldn't be coming at all.

I say this because I still think college athletics would be great, I would still go to Ohio State games whether the players on the field go on to pro careers or not. I would still care just as much about every Big Ten Championship, every National Championship, every win over Michigan. If I couldn't get to the games I would still go out of my way to arrange my schedule so that I could watch them on TV. I have a feeling I'm not the only one that feels this way.

The reason this doesn't happen isn't because the NFL or NBA don't have enough money, the reason it doesn't happen is simple a college athlete is far more valuable to the pros than a D-league or academy player would ever be. They know that many of us care more about these players because we feel a connection to them from their college days. It has nothing to do with the cost of starting up a minor league/academies or the product on the field.

So I'll be honest and say I don't love college athletics as much as I did when I was a kid. It's still great fun, but now I see the business side of the game and the business side sucks. I wish it was as pure a game as I once thought it was but I'm no where near that naive now.

 

[Sportsbuck28]

You are entitlled to your opinion, you are not entiled to your own set of facts. If you have proof, show it, if not, then STFU. No player on Arkansas' team is on a payroll.

And to think there was a decent amount of time where I thought you were capable of quality discussion.

 

[sandgk]

Married. 28 years.

The reference is to these guys ...

 

[Gatorubet]

You are entitlled to your opinion, you are not entiled to your own set of facts. If you have proof, show it, if not, then STFU. No player on Arkansas' team is on a payroll.

Go back and read his post. His reference was to the SEC*, not to the Piggies, per se.

....unless he was referring to your SWC days when you probably were paying your players.

And I'm sure you meant that STFU in the non-literal sense, being as how Capo is an admin and all...

 

[cincibuck]

Cecil has admitted asking for money. Does it make him less of a pimp if his victim (Cam) wasn't aware of the transaction?

Is Cecil a college athlete? The NCAA has no jurisdiction over Cecil.

Look, like you I think that where there's smoke there is usually some kind of fire. But it is possible that his dad told him not to ask questions, just sign with Auburn -- and if that's the case and there is no evidence - admissible evidence- to the contrary then there is no case.

You're in a pack of twenty cars all going over the speed limit and you're the only one the cops pull over - they have evidence on you and the others skip free. Is it fair? Yes and no. Is it the legal system in action? Yes.