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Alabama Crimson Tide (official thread of Football, Fake Championships and Banjo)

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Nigel Tufnel said:
He was cleared. It’s not fake news. He played the prior week.
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And pretty much everyone agreed that there was no way he was actually healthy, and the Dr sign off was a rubber stamp.
Why would it be different the next week, when everyone saw him gimpy leading into the game?

Nigel Tufnel said:
This is football man, not polo. You play hurt. That’s the rule, not the exception. If your angle on this is that Saban is bad because of this, then you are misguided.
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Shane Morris agrees with this statement.
There's no way Tua sees the field at Ohio State in that condition.

If you had read my posts, you'd know I'm not going after Saban.
I'm going after the culture that enables this.
Of course Saban is going to play him if Bama furnishes a Dr that will sign off on Epstein suicide, bone spurs, or Tua miraculously recovering from surgery in a record smashing 2 weeks.
I'm going after NCAA for completely failing to protect the "amateur student athletes" they crow so much about.
 
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kujirakira said:
And pretty much everyone agreed that there was no way he was actually healthy, and the Dr sign off was a rubber stamp.
Why would it be different the next week, when everyone saw him gimpy leading into the game?



Shane Morris agrees with this statement.
There's no way Tua sees the field at Ohio State in that condition.

If you had read my posts, you'd know I'm not going after Saban.
I'm going after the culture that enables this.
Of course Saban is going to play him if Bama furnishes a Dr that will sign off on Epstein suicide, bone spurs, or Tua miraculously recovering from surgery in a record smashing 2 weeks.
I'm going after NCAA for completely failing to protect the "amateur student athletes" they crow so much about.
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all of this.

i am thankful that under both Miles and now O, we typically sit guys that are injured.

everybody plays hurt or banged up as that is part of the game. But when you have a genuine injury, that’s a different story.
 
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kujirakira said:
And pretty much everyone agreed that there was no way he was actually healthy, and the Dr sign off was a rubber stamp.
Why would it be different the next week, when everyone saw him gimpy leading into the game?



Shane Morris agrees with this statement.
There's no way Tua sees the field at Ohio State in that condition.

If you had read my posts, you'd know I'm not going after Saban.
I'm going after the culture that enables this.
Of course Saban is going to play him if Bama furnishes a Dr that will sign off on Epstein suicide, bone spurs, or Tua miraculously recovering from surgery in a record smashing 2 weeks.
I'm going after NCAA for completely failing to protect the "amateur student athletes" they crow so much about.
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Hey, cool your jets, man. You're being a little too harsh on the NCAA. Clearly the NCAA is doing something right, because by all accounts not once has Tua tried to trade his personal effects for a free tattoo. Give credit where credit is due.
 
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sparcboxbuck said:
Fair point but a scoped meniscus is as much about relief as anything else. Scoping to cut off some loose meat and nerve endings so they don’t get pinched is a nothing deal. Hugely different injury to start with too. I’ve been playing / coaching for the last 10 years on about what JT had.
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But it was nothing close to a scoped meniscus. He had a dislocated kneecap, had surgery on Monday, and Urban slammed him like a bulldozer into the Badgers line 20x only 5 days later.
 
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heisman said:
But it was nothing close to a scoped meniscus. He had a dislocated kneecap, had surgery on Monday, and Urban slammed him like a bulldozer into the Badgers line 20x only 5 days later.
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He was making up for that time Zeke had an infected bruise in his shin and Urban gave him the second half off against Sparty.
 
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heisman said:
But it was nothing close to a scoped meniscus. He had a dislocated kneecap, had surgery on Monday, and Urban slammed him like a bulldozer into the Badgers line 20x only 5 days later.
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He had a kneecap that wouldn’t stay in place. That’s all. Poorly behaved kneecap. And a meniscus issue.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.co...fd-barrett-surgery-ohio-state-1130-story.html

https://thespun.com/big-ten/ohio-st...knee-surgery-on-sunday-but-will-play-saturday

https://es.pn/2nxkNQI
 
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kujirakira said:
And pretty much everyone agreed that there was no way he was actually healthy, and the Dr sign off was a rubber stamp.
Why would it be different the next week, when everyone saw him gimpy leading into the game?



Shane Morris agrees with this statement.
There's no way Tua sees the field at Ohio State in that condition.

If you had read my posts, you'd know I'm not going after Saban.
I'm going after the culture that enables this.
Of course Saban is going to play him if Bama furnishes a Dr that will sign off on Epstein suicide, bone spurs, or Tua miraculously recovering from surgery in a record smashing 2 weeks.
I'm going after NCAA for completely failing to protect the "amateur student athletes" they crow so much about.
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You're I'm not going after Saban, but then "Bama furnishes a Dr that will sign off" sounds....insincere. I hate that it happened to any kid, especially a kid who seems like a genuinely good kid, but I understand it's football and he wanted to play and he was cleared. No one is evil in this.
 
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Nigel Tufnel said:
You're I'm not going after Saban, but then "Bama furnishes a Dr that will sign off" sounds....insincere. I hate that it happened to any kid, especially a kid who seems like a genuinely good kid, but I understand it's football and he wanted to play and he was cleared. No one is evil in this.
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Saban's decision to have Tua playing with a 35-7 lead with 3 minutes to go in the first half was a bad decision for the 2019 Alabama football team, regardless of whether he was concerned about Tua's health and career potential. The amount to be gained from Tua getting in a final few plays is pretty minimal since he's been there 3 years and has started almost all of the past two. But when he's not moving at 100% and had a real chance at aggravating a high ankle sprain, let alone suffer a career-threatening injury, it would have been prudent to take him out as soon as possible, sit him against Western Carolina, and have him close to 100% for the trip to Auburn.

Whether he had him in for two-minute reps and/or to try to gain style points for the committee, the risk of injury to a star QB with limited mobility should have been the determining factor. Hindsight, sure, but if Tua was able to move as he normally could, he wouldn't have been brought down by two guys on that play, and if he only had one guy tackling him, I really doubt that the hip displacement would have occurred.
 
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Steve19 said:
Two things. First, watching that hit, I am surprised by the damage he took. Second, everyone who complained about the second half against Rutgers and the high number of players left behind, be happy you have a coach at Ohio State who thinks as he does.
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Yeah, it's hard to even call it a 'hit.' It looked like a good tackle and his knee seemed to have been tucked up a bit when he went down. I guess it's obvious that the angle of the leg and the weight is what caused the injury, but either the angle or the weight of the tackle on their own looked routine. Just really bad luck for the kid.

I will say, even with all of the blowouts that have afforded getting the two and threes reps, it feels like there's a fair amount of guys dinged up going into the stretch. Hope a bye and two light games have given some of those guys on the margin of injury / pain the opportunity to get fixed a bit.
 
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