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BCS predictions/discussion/Knock Em' Off

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Waller;1006336; said:
The computer polls are perhaps more volatile, but they aren't more dangerous.
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The Terminator respectively disagrees ..

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Waller;1006336; said:
How exactly can the computers overrule the humans? They make up 1/3 of the BCS formula. Neither human poll is going to jump LSU over OSU no matter what happens in Atlanta. I don't think we have any concerns in regards to someone jumping us, but I also don't think we have any shot of jumping anyone else. If OU wins, we are in.

GO BUCKS!!!!
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While I agree that this year the computers may not have a dramatic impact, the fact is that they can do so.
If things are close enough in the human polls and the computers read the rankings differently then without a doubt their 1/3rd contribution can tilt the table. Doesn't have to be LSU that gets the jump to make life difficult for the Buckeyes (or West Va. or Georgia, or name your poison).

Think of the computers as more rational Jon Wilner's without a soul - OK, that last part is redundant and the first part oxymoronic. :tongue2:
 
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BuckNizut;1006345; said:
There's still a small chance we get in even if Mizzou wins the Big 12...SMALL CHANCE! Right now, we will be firmly within the Title game with Oklahoma winning their conference. Honestly, I am doubtful they will do it after seeing an almost unstoppable Mizzou. Either they are the real deal, or Kansas was EXTREMELY overrated.
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Well, it's tough to say on Kansas, their schedule wasn't anything to write home about. But that doesn't really mean that much, Florida had a pretty horrible OOC schedule last year and we saw what they were :( About the only thing I really take out of strength of schedule is it can leave you unprepared for a team.
 
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Waller;1006336; said:
The computer polls are perhaps more volatile, but they aren't more dangerous. How exactly can the computers overrule the humans? They make up 1/3 of the BCS formula. Neither human poll is going to jump LSU over OSU no matter what happens in Atlanta. I don't think we have any concerns in regards to someone jumping us, but I also don't think we have any shot of jumping anyone else. If OU wins, we are in.

GO BUCKS!!!!
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http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/...-bcs-predictions-discussion-7.html#post960580

Another danger is wedge teams like Kansas. While human voters will move Kansas out of the way due to the late loss, computers may just see a loss to a highly ranked Missouri team. If Kansas creates separation between teams in enough polls, the computers have even more strength.
 
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Ah, strength of schedule. This year, SOS can't really be a good indicator of how good a team's competition is. Look at the SEC, they were VASTLY overrated this year. All the fanboys at GFAQS NCAA board were bragging about how great their conference is. Now, they are damage controlling, trying to still shove their SOS ranking down people's throats. They say LSU should still play in the title game because their SOS was strong. But let's take a look at LSU's "ranked" competition. They are either now unranked, or just plain bad.

Now you take Ohio State's opponents, and sure, their schedule was a bit relaxed this year, but teams like Illinois, Purdue, Penn State, Wisconsin or Michigan can beat SEC teams in bowls this year. Hell, even MSU could get a win against the SEC, yet somehow, the SEC's hype keeps their teams ranked. There were 9 SEC teams with a loss to an unranked or bad opponent, and 10 SEC teams with 2 or more losses to unranked or bad opponents.

See how SOS and rankings can skew the picture?
 
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Tellshow's site has been updated for his BCS projections today.

Bowl Championship Series Ratings

.....................Computer.. Coach's.........Harris.....BCS
Rank .Team....W..L..Pts..Rank..Pts..BCS..Rank..Pts..Pts....Pts
1 Missouri... 11 1 0.99...1...1483.0.989..1..2804..0.993.0.9904
2 West Va.... 10 1 0.97...2...1441 0.961..2..2700..0.956 0.9621
3 Ohio State. 11 1 0.89...3.. 1345 0.897..3..2505..0.887 0.8911
4 Georgia.....10 2 0.86...5.. 1276 0.851..4..2455..0.869 0.8599
5 LSU........ 10 2 0.84...4.. 1328 0.885..5..2401..0.850 0.8584
6 Va Tech.... 10 2 0.81...6.. 1158 0.772..6..2129..0.754 0.7785
7 Kansas..... 11 1 0.74...7.. 1105 0.737..7..2076..0.735 0.7372
8 Oklahoma... 10 2 0.52...8.. 1019 0.679..8..1863..0.659 0.6196
9 South. Cal.. 9 2 0.60...9... 931 0.621..9..1820..0.644 0.6216
10 Ariz. St... 9 2 0.67. 11... 881 0.587 11. 1674. 0.593 0.6166
11 Florida.... 9 3 0.68. 12... 879 0.586 12. 1626. 0.576 0.6139
12 Bost Coll. 10 2 0.72. 13... 828 0.552 13. 1590. 0.563 0.6116
13 Hawai`i... 11 0 0.56. 10... 899 0.599 10. 1799. 0.637 0.5987
14 Tennessee.. 9 3 0.52. 15... 626 0.417 14. 1438. 0.509 0.4821
15 Illinois... 9 3 0.36. 14... 736 0.491 15. 1187. 0.420 0.4236
16 Virginia... 9 3 0.24. 16... 619 0.413 17. 1092. 0.387 0.3464
17 Clemson.... 9 3 0.38. 18... 485 0.323 18.. 873. 0.309 0.3375
18 Wisconsin.. 9 3 0.17. 17... 593 0.395 16. 1135. 0.402 0.3224
19 Oregon..... 8 3 0.37. 20... 343 0.229 22.. 424. 0.150 0.2496
20 Auburn..... 8 4 0.17. 21... 264 0.176 19.. 802. 0.284 0.2100
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