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My .02 on Blue.

I loved watching him in college. He was as big a hitter from the Safety position as there has ever been and thats not an exaggeration. However he did that from deep as a FS not as a SS. The problem this presents in my eyes is that he is WAY too slow to play FS in the NFL. His coverage skills are on par or worse than Mike Doss's ever were.

So here's the delima. Monster hitter running up from FS, a truely special player in this regard, but probably too slow to play anything but SS in the NFL(if that). Can he still hit like that from SS or can he move to OLB? The fact you have to ask these questions is going to lower his draft status but if you get a yes to either one and get to draft a player like him 3rd round or later you have a steal.
 
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Now back to the topic at hand....

Marvin will keep this train on the tracks.

I really hope that we do not have a Chris Perry kinda pick meaning going for the Best available talent. We have real needs and they need to be filled before we get redundancy.

Give me a 350 lb fat ass for the middle of the line, a saftey that can tackle and then a TE if there is one available. THEN get the best available talent.
 
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Rumblings from today's Dispatch....

Coach Marvin Lewis made a point of vouching for receiver Chris Henry’s character when the Cincinnati Bengals drafted him out of West Virginia in the third round last year, even though he was once ejected for making an obscene gesture and some people in the Mountaineers program voiced frustrations with his alleged immaturity.

Still, Lewis apparently doesn’t see anything incompatible in that and what has been happening with Henry’s two recent arrests. Henry was arrested Jan. 28 in Florida on three gun-related charges — possession of a concealed firearm, improper exhibition of a firearm and aggravated assault with a firearm — and also goes to trial in Kenton County, Ky., on March 22 on a marijuana charge.

Lewis said at the NFL combine in Indianapolis last weekend that the problems Henry is having now aren’t the kinds of issues that the Bengals investigated. He said Henry faced on-the-field problems at West Virginia, not legal ones, and that the Bengals thoroughly looked at those issues before drafting him.

Even so, there seems little doubt that Lewis has just about run out of patience with Henry, even though he has some talent. When Lewis was asked whether Henry was down to his last strike, he quickly said, "That’s my business."
Chances are what happens to Henry will depend upon whether the Bengals believe they have reasonable options.
 
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Starved for attention without many microphones these days, Chad seems to be taking the KWII route :p

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Given the list of players the Bengals met w/ last week- http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060305/COL04/603050409/1066/SPT , I think Marvin is thinking along the same lines as all the fans on here, and the mock drafts-DL,SS,TE, maybe an upgrade at CB. If Hester is available in the 3rd round, he would be an intriguing pick. Ideally, the Bengals could sign a veteran DT like Sam Adams, so they don't have to use an early draft pick for one. DTs are perhaps the biggest boom/bust prospects in the draft, along w/ QBs. Gerard Warren is also available as a FA, I believe...not sure if him and Marvin would see eye to eye, tho.........
Ideally, the Bengals 1st 3 rounds would go 1st-Bing SS, 2nd-Lewis TE, 3rd-Hester CB/WR (the Bengals have talked w/ him about playing both ways), or best DT or CB talent available-James doesn't have much left in the tank-Ratliff could start in 07, and the rookie could be the nickelback in training this year.
 
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Cincy

3/6/06

Kitna may be moving on

BY MARK CURNUTTE | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

<!--ARTICLE BODY TEXT-->There's little chance Jon Kitna will re-sign with the Bengals.

With the New York Jets at the front of an active market for his services, Kitna very well might get his chance to start again at quarterback.

Kitna might sign relatively quickly if free agency begins as scheduled at 12:01 a.m. Monday, and the Bengals probably would strike quickly to sign a third healthy quarterback for spring and summer field work.

Kitna threw for single-season career highs in touchdowns (26) and yards (3,591) as a starter for Cincinnati in 2003, then gracefully accepted the backup role to Carson Palmer.

"I was OK with (a backup role) the first year (2004)," Kitna said Friday. "Last year, it started in training camp - that desire, the competitive nature, was there."

He said his religious faith is calling him to new work.

"Our ministry in Cincinnati was far greater than I could have expected," he said. "I'm looking forward to the next phase. We did a lot of teen-age Bible study here. The Lord's calling us to do a couple's ministry on a new team."
Kitna and his wife, Jennifer, had their fourth child, a son, after the end of the season.

"It's kind of a transition, a break for my family," said Kitna, a Bengal for the past five seasons. "It's bigger than football."

The Kitna market is so hot that the Baltimore Ravens are expected to back out because they don't want to get into a bidding war.

COMBINE VISITS: The Bengals conducted the allotted 60 personal interviews with draft prospects at the scouting combine.

Among the players the Bengals met with were Miami (Fla.) wide receiver/cornerback/kick returner Devin Hester, Georgia Tech linebacker Gerris Wilkinson, Oklahoma defensive back Chijioke Onyenegecha, Georgia safety Greg Blue, Michigan defensive tackle Gabe Watson and Texas tight end David Thomas.

Hester said the Bengals talked with him about the possibility of playing both ways, which Hester said he would welcome.

GOOD FIT: Add this name to the list of free-agent defensive tackles who might look good in the Bengals' lineup: Seattle's Rocky Bernard. He had 81/2 sacks in the regular season and two more in the playoffs.

The only knock on Bernard is he isn't exceptional against the run, which is the Bengals' most consistent shortcoming.
 
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DDN

3/8/06

NFL INSIDER
Miller, Andrews, Perry staying put, Bengals' Lewis says

By Chick Ludwig
Dayton Daily News

Linebacker Caleb Miller won't be moving to safety. Offensive tackle Stacy Andrews won't be shipped to the defensive line. And wide receiver Tab Perry is staying put on the offensive side of the ball.

Head coach Marvin Lewis said the possibility of moving Perry to safety is "more speculation than truth.

"It's something that I've considered, and Tab had talked to me about it when we first drafted him," Lewis said. "Our offensive coaches would love to have him have an opportunity to spend an offseason on offense, which he wasn't able to do. So I think they're excited about him expanding his role on offense and doing things as a receiver full-time."

Perry, who didn't arrive in Cincinnati until June 2005 because of UCLA's late graduation, emerged as the club's No. 1 kickoff returner and one of the best tacklers in kick coverage.

He also flashed in limited time at wideout. A big, fast, physical receiver who has soft hands and runs precise routes, Perry is one of the team's hardest workers.

He arrives early, stays late and has a voracious appetite for film study. His future looks bright.

• Henry's situation: Lewis makes no apologies for drafting Chris Henry in the third round "because what his problem is now is not anything he had a problem with at West Virginia. I can't explain it. He made a foolish mistake."
 
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Cincy

3/10/06

Brown: Deal bad for Bengals

Players, high-revenue teams will benefit, owner says

BY MARK CURNUTTE | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

<!--ARTICLE BODY TEXT-->CLEVELAND - A day after casting one of two dissenting votes among owners to extend the NFL's collective bargaining agreement, Bengals president Mike Brown said he was ready to start thinking about the 2006 regular season.
"I voted on how I felt (Wednesday)," Brown said Thursday from his office at Paul Brown Stadium. "That's how I saw it. It's all water over the dam. We're going forward and looking forward to the coming season and really think things are going well for the Bengals. We have good prospects."
The weeklong league negotiations with the players' union put into sharp focus the delicate nature of parity in the NFL, which is composed of small-market teams such as the Bengals and large-market teams such as the Dallas Cowboys.

In a nutshell, the owners and players were arguing over how to split the millions of dollars generated by the league.
For players, the 30-2 owners' vote is a victory. The salary cap - the maximum amount a team can spend on players - is increased to $102 million a team in 2006, up from $94.5 million.
The cap is viewed as a key part of the NFL's success.
Unlike baseball, in which the wealthiest teams spend freely on the best players, NFL teams must adhere to this cap, which helps to maintain competitive balance.
Without the collective bargaining extension, the 2007 season would have been played without the salary cap, which could have potentially hurt teams such as Cincinnati.
Even so, Brown said the new agreement brings with it financial pressure.
Brown said low-revenue teams, such as the Bengals, pay 70 percent of their revenue toward player costs. High-revenue teams such as the Washington Redskins and New England Patriots pay about 40 percent.
That's because the Redskins and Patriots of the world generate a great deal more local revenue from advertising, radio agreements and stadium luxury box rentals. Each NFL team will receive $100 million in television contract money.
"We don't want any of the revenues from the high-market clubs," Brown said. "We merely want them to pay the costs that they export down to us under this system."
High-revenue teams force about $45 million to $50 million in costs onto other teams in the league, he said.
The owners attempted to address the revenue disparity by creating an additional pool of shared money. The top 15 revenue-generating clubs will contribute a portion of their local revenues to a pool that will be distributed to the remaining 17 organizations, including the Bengals.
Brown said he does not regret his vote and would have preferred no deal at this time compared to the one that passed.
"I would have wanted to bargain for a new deal," he said.
Brown said other low-revenue teams - he would not identify them - also were opposed to the proposal but switched their votes at the last minute. Buffalo Bills owner Ralph Wilson cast the other "no" vote.
Brown did say that there are benefits to having the labor situation settled - especially for players and fans.
"It provides us with uninterrupted play for a minimum of four more years, possibly six. We're going to be competitive under the system no differently than we have been in recent years. From the fans' perspective, they should be pleased with the result."
The 2005 Bengals were the franchise's first team since 1990 to make the playoffs, win a division title and have a winning record.
The Bengals are an estimated $16 million under the new salary cap, but Brown said that number is fluid and fails to account for certain costs. For example, there is a pool of money used to sign rookie draft picks.
Still, the Bengals are seemingly poised to be active in free agency, which will begin at 12:01 a.m. Saturday. Brown said the Bengals will be involved in free agency but would not discuss specific team needs.
The Bengals are expected to lose backup quarterback Jon Kitna to another team and quickly will strike to sign another quarterback, head coach Marvin Lewis said.
The Bengals have under contract two healthy quarterbacks, Craig Krenzel and Doug Johnson. Starter Carson Palmer continues to rehabilitate his left knee, in which a surgeon replaced two ligaments two months ago today. Lewis has said he expects Palmer to be ready for the start of the season but has prohibited the quarterback from discussing his rehab publicly.
The salary cap for 2007 will be $109 million.
"We are strong enough to continue on," Brown said. "We will be able to maintain our ability to pay the cap. We will do it in the fashion as we have in the past. We will be up and running under the cap system through the duration of this deal."
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Cincy

3/11/06

Bengals release Clemons

Clear room under $102M salary cap

BY MARK CURNUTTE | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

<!--ARTICLE BODY TEXT-->On the eve of NFL free agency, the Bengals cleared some salary cap space Friday by terminating the contract of defensive lineman Duane Clemons.

Free agency began at 12:01 a.m. today, and the Bengals' first priority is finding depth at quarterback.

Job 1B is bulking up an under-achieving defense.

Though Bengals president Mike Brown was one of two nay votes on the players' union proposal on a labor contract extension, the measure passed, and the salary cap increased $7.5 million to $102 million. Brown said the Bengals will spend up to the salary cap.

Bengals backup quarterback Jon Kitna, who chose not to re-sign with the team before testing the market, is expected to meet early next week with Jets coach Eric Mangini. New York already has talked with former Redskins quarterback Patrick Ramsey, who will visit Detroit.

The Bengals are believed to have had one conversation with representatives for former Steelers quarterback Tommy Maddox, who was released earlier this month. Maddox, who will be 35 in September, was Pittsburgh's starter in 2002 and 2003 and threw for 38 touchdowns and 6,200 yards. Like Kitna, Maddox wants an opportunity to start again but knows the rest of his career will be spent as a backup.

The Bengals have under contract two healthy quarterbacks, Craig Krenzel and Doug Johnson, and are looking for a third to compete for potential starting time if Carson Palmer is unable to return as hoped from his serious left knee injury.

The Bengals are an estimated $16 million under the new cap and gained another $1.16 million in letting Clemons go. He had 14½ sacks in three seasons but served a suspension in 2005 for violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy.

The Bengals also hope to extend the contracts of their offensive linemen; all five starters' contracts will expire after the 2006 season.
 
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Cincy

3/12/06

Casting a net for safeties

Bills star Milloy is first to visit

BY MARK CURNUTTE | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

<!--ARTICLE BODY TEXT-->The Bengals are serious about addressing one of their biggest needs, safety play, in free agency.
They entertained their first of four free-agent safeties Saturday night in Buffalo Bills star Lawyer Milloy.
Two more safeties, Baltimore's Will Demps and Tampa Bay's Dexter Jackson, are scheduled to arrive today.
And Carolina's Marlon McCree, who possibly has the most upside in the group, will visit if he leaves San Diego this weekend without a contract.
Another pressing need for the Bengals is to find another quarterback who could start in case Carson Palmer isn't fully recovered from a serious left knee injury. Miami free agent Sage Rosenfels, a five-year veteran from Iowa State, also will arrive today.
Rosenfels, who has played in 13 NFL games with two starts, has a strong arm that would allow the Bengals to use their deep passing game - even if Palmer is not ready. Rosenfels is 54-for-109 passing for 776 yards and six touchdowns and six interceptions as a pro.
Rosenfels spent his rookie season with the Redskins and the last four in Miami, where he played in four games in 2005.
Agent Rick Smith on Saturday confirmed the Rosenfels visit. The quarterback already met with Houston and will visit the Jets.
Rosenfels probably would replace Jon Kitna on the Bengals' depth chart. Kitna, a former Bengals starter, met Saturday with the Lions and also has a meeting scheduled with the Jets.
Kitna is looking more for an opportunity to start than for a big payday. The Lions confirmed Kitna's visit.
The Bengals organization does not confirm free-agent visits until they end.
The Bengals did lose one of their 12 unrestricted free agents Saturday, the opening day of the league year and the first time players could negotiate openly with other teams.
Tight end Matt Schobel - who had 90 receptions, nine for touchdowns, in four seasons with the Bengals - agreed to a five-year deal with the Eagles. Schobel will receive $1.8 million to sign and will be introduced Monday in Philadelphia. He will work behind starter L.J. Smith in an offense that often uses a two-tight end set.
Schobel's pass-receiving abilities were never fully realized in the Bengals' offense, which primarily looks to tight ends to block in the run game and pass protection.
The Bengals told agents prior to the start of free agency, which was delayed eight days while the league and players' union hammered out a collective bargaining agreement extension, that they were most interested finding help on defense and a third healthy quarterback.
Carl Poston, Milloy's agent, said Saturday that his client would arrive Saturday night and spend today with the Bengals before heading to Atlanta for a second visit.
Milloy is a tough player against the run as a strong safety, and despite playing in his 10th NFL season, he had 106 total tackles and one interception in 16 games in 2005 with the Bills. The Bengals had poor run defense support from their safeties after free safety Madieu Williams was injured and lost for the season. Ifeanyi Ohalete struggled and missed tackles in the hole if a running back broke through the defensive line.
McCree played for his third team, Carolina, in his fifth NFL season in 2005. He had 88 tackles and three interceptions, upping his career total to 12. The former University of Kentucky star previously spent two years with Jacksonville and two with Houston before signing with Carolina. A spokesman in the office of Gary Uberstine, McCree's agent, said McCree met with the Chargers on Saturday and had attracted strong interest from the Giants and Bills.
The Baltimore Sun is reporting today that Demps, a Ravens starter for much of the past four years, will be in Cincinnati today.
Demps reportedly will travel to New York to meet with the Giants on Monday.
Demps suffered a partial tear of his left anterior cruciate ligament but is expected to be ready to play by the end of May.
Demps just missed crossing paths with Bengals coach Marvin Lewis, former Ravens defensive coordinator.
Baltimore had little interest in trying to re-sign Demps, just as the Buccaneers were not interested in re-signing Jackson.
Jackson, the MVP of Super Bowl XXXVII, played in 11games for the Buccaneers in 2005 and had 32 tackles.
He also had his 14th career interception.
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Cincy

3/13/06

Another Bengal gone?

Wide receiver Walter signs offer sheet with Texans

BY MARK CURNUTTE | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

<!--ARTICLE BODY TEXT-->Carson Palmer might return to Cincinnati this week, and after losing one of the quarterback's receiving targets in free agency, the Bengals are on the verge of letting another one get away.
Tight end Matt Schobel will be in Philadelphia today to sign a five-year contract with the Eagles, who will pay him a $1.8 million signing bonus.
On Sunday, Bengals No. 4 wide receiver Kevin Walter signed a four-year, $6.4 million offer sheet as a restricted free agent with the Houston Texans.
The Bengals are in a position where they have to choose whether to match the offer sheet and retain Walter, similar to the position they faced in 2004 when RFA kicker Shayne Graham signed a five-year, $6.5 million offer sheet with Jacksonville. The Bengals matched that offer.
Walter played in 16 games with two offensive starts. He had 19 receptions for 211 yards and one touchdown. He also tied for second on the team with 17 special-teams tackles.
Walter, who earned $380,000 last season, is looking at a potentially big raise and expanded role in an offense. He would be considered a candidate for the No. 2 receiving job with the Texans behind Andre Johnson.
Given Bengals No. 3 receiver Chris Henry's legal problems in Kentucky and Florida, Walter might have an opportunity to expand his role in the Bengals' offense if the team matches Houston's offer. If the Bengals choose not to match, they will receive a seventh-round draft pick as compensation for losing Walter.
Walter was the Giants' seventh-round pick in 2003, and the Bengals offered him the lowest tender as an RFA, $712,000, which would get them "draft-status" compensation.
As for Palmer, he has been doing rehabilitation in Los Angeles since undergoing knee ligament surgery Jan. 10. Coach Marvin Lewis wants him back in Cincinnati to work with coaches so he stays sharp mentally while he continues to rehab.
While several teams - including the AFC North division rival Cleveland Browns - make big splashes in free agency, the Bengals again have taken a conservative approach. The Bengals had yet to sign a free agent as of late Sunday night, though they are an estimated $16.6 million under the NFL's new $102 million salary cap.
All the Bengals have done officially in free agency is confirm the overnight visit Saturday of safety Lawyer Milloy, who went to Atlanta without a deal from the Bengals.
Two free agents the Bengals had hoped to meet with - quarterback Sage Rosenfels and safety Marlon McCree - didn't get away from their first teams without contracts.
Rosenfels, who canceled a visit scheduled for Sunday to Cincinnati, signed a five-year contract for $6.4 million with a $2 million signing bonus with Houston. Rosenfels will back up David Carr.
McCree, possibly the best free agent safety, signed a five-year, $16 million deal with San Diego.
Word late Sunday night was the Bengals would meet with Rams free-agent quarterback Jamie Martin this week. Martin, 36, worked with Bengals quarterbacks coach Ken Zampese when both were in St. Louis. Martin completed 70.1 percent of his passes last season and was 3-1 in games he started and finished.
The Bengals did visit Sunday with two more safeties - Baltimore unrestricted free agent Will Demps and former Tampa Bay defensive back Dexter Jackson.
Quarterback Jon Kitna, a Bengals unrestricted free agent, visited Detroit and was expected to arrive in New York on Sunday night to begin talks with the Jets. Word out of New York is the Jets will end up with either Kitna or Washington's Patrick Ramsey, who is on the trading block.


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD bgColor=#838383> NFL free agency: Day 2
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=storytext bgColor=#eeeeee>A glance at the second day of free agency for the Bengals:

Visits confirmed by Bengals: Safety Lawyer Milloy, Bills

Bengals visits confirmed by other sources:

Will Demps, safety, Ravens, visited Sunday.

Dexter Jackson, safety, Buccaneers, visited Sunday.

Not visiting:

Marlon McCree, safety, Panthers, signed a five-year, $16 million contract with San Diego and canceled a visit to Cincinnati.

Sage Rosenfels, quarterback, Dolphins, canceled his visit with the Bengals after signing with Houston.

On the way out:

Bengals quarterback Jon Kitna completed a visit to Detroit and headed to New York to start a visit Sunday night with the Jets.

Bengals restricted free-agent wide receiver Kevin Walter, who was offered a one-year, $712,000 tender by the Bengals, signed an offer sheet described as lucrative with the Texans. The Bengals will have an opportunity to match the deal.

Gone:

Bengals tight end Matt Schobel will be in Philadelphia today to sign a five-year contract with the Eagles.

--Mark Curnutte

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