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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Discussion in 'College Football' started by Mike80, Jul 26, 2007.

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  1. Boston College

    29 vote(s)
    9.8%
  2. Cincinnati

    17 vote(s)
    5.7%
  3. Connecticut

    5 vote(s)
    1.7%
  4. Duke

    17 vote(s)
    5.7%
  5. Georgia Tech

    51 vote(s)
    17.2%
  6. Kansas

    46 vote(s)
    15.5%
  7. Maryland

    67 vote(s)
    22.6%
  8. Missouri

    89 vote(s)
    30.1%
  9. North Carolina

    30 vote(s)
    10.1%
  10. Notre Dame

    200 vote(s)
    67.6%
  11. Oklahoma

    80 vote(s)
    27.0%
  12. Pittsburgh

    43 vote(s)
    14.5%
  13. Rutgers

    38 vote(s)
    12.8%
  14. Syracuse

    16 vote(s)
    5.4%
  15. Texas

    124 vote(s)
    41.9%
  16. Vanderbilt

    13 vote(s)
    4.4%
  17. Virginia

    40 vote(s)
    13.5%
  18. Virginia Tech

    58 vote(s)
    19.6%
  19. Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    26 vote(s)
    8.8%
  20. Add some other school(s) not listed

    16 vote(s)
    5.4%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck 2014 National Champions!

    You won't find me depreciating UM's academics.

    Nor will you find me contributing toward any family member's tuition to attend the school.
     
    BB73, JCOSU86, colobuck79 and 4 others like this.
  2. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Wrong glass, Sir.

    I will. Given that UM looks at out of state students as full-fare cash cows with a ridiculously high oos tuition that's the equal of elite private schools, I would absolutely send a kid to Ohio State, Wisconsin Illinois or Minnesota at a net cost of anywhere between a fifth and a half the cost over Michigan. Plus, it's almost always oos students who were bitch slapped by half a dozen private schools before ending up in Ann Arbor who are the smug, pompous tools that we love to hate.
     
    BayBuck likes this.
  3. zincfinger

    zincfinger Gert Frobe-approved

    A couple of counter views. Purdue is explicitly an engineering school, so of course its reputation is based on engineering. I don't consider that a negative.

    Regarding the UMass MUP that you cite, I think you place too much importance on federal research funding (and closely related factors, like number of doctoral degrees conferred) in determining institutional quality. Federal research funding is important, and I've lived in that world, but it's not the only thing that's important, and it can be misleading.
     
  4. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Wrong glass, Sir.

    Good points. Several of their metrics though do address other issues. Endowment and fundraising, faculty quality and undergraduate selectivity account for 5 of the 9 metrics. And if one wants to wade through the NRC doctoral program rankings, one also finds that we're quite competitive with Illinois and Wisconsin. Even when we lag them in some important indicators of quality, such as National Academy members, we're still clearly playing in that league. It's just that there are some areas where we're at the top of that pack (endowment, annual fundraising and median SAT score) and some where we need to do somewhat better such as being top 20 among all publics for academy members rather than top 10.
     
  5. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    @Ramzy woos @ORD_Buckeye in his latest:

    ROOTS

     
  6. FCollinsBuckeye

    FCollinsBuckeye Senior Former Game Champion

    To this day, this phrase still makes me chuckle. The special needs kids at my elementary school were actually bussed to school on a short bus.
     
    Thump likes this.
  7. JCOSU86

    JCOSU86 Fredo, you're not a Public Ivy either Go Bucks! Staff Member

    I saw your girl several times while rewatching the 2014 Sugar Bowl. She is a keeper.
     
    FCollinsBuckeye likes this.
  8. colobuck79

    colobuck79 tilter of wind*ills

    I remember seeing you as I looked out the bus window!
     
  9. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Wrong glass, Sir.

    We moved to Cali towards the end of 5th grade, and the local school nearest our new house was overcapacity, so I had to finish 5th grade at a school further away. I went to the same bus stop that served the nearby school and waited for the short bus that collected the kids for the distant school. That was the spring that I really learned how to both take and throw a punch
     
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2018
  10. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Wrong glass, Sir.

    Looks like somebody might have had a come to Jesus moment with the conference Presidents and spit the Rose Bowl's cock out of his mouth.

     
  11. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ


    wait, wait, wait....you got into fights with the short bus kids?
     
    TooTallMenardo likes this.
  12. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Wrong glass, Sir.

    Dude, I was the short bus kid. In a new town, with kids I'd never met before showing up at their bus stop to wait for the short bus that took me to my school. You're god damned right there were fights. For about seven weeks, this was my morning.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ


    oh, ok I got it

    I was thinking you were getting into fights with the handicapped kids

    :lol:
     
    Buckeyeskickbuttocks likes this.
  14. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Wrong glass, Sir.

    No, the district used a short bus to take the kids that the closest school had no room for to the further school. It was Lord of the Flies, and I had to get into fights for a couple of weeks until things sorted themselves out. All was cool by the time Summer came around and then I ended up with them in 6th grade.
     
  15. FCollinsBuckeye

    FCollinsBuckeye Senior Former Game Champion

    You seized the conch. :lift:
     

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