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Bret Bielema (HC Illinois)

SmoovP;2274855; said:
I also realize that everyone sees the world through their own window and one man's douchebag is another man's hero.

This may, or may not be true in principle.

However, Bret isn't one man's douchebag. Bret is every man's douchebag. He is that rare douchebag that every man, woman, child, and fetus can look at and recognize as being a douchebag. Bret is the Platonic ideal for douchebag.
 
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BUCKYLE;2274875; said:
Wisconsin isn't without tradition, resources, and talent as well...and Biff Tannen Bielema was owned by tOSU. I understand your position. We'll have to wait and see of course, but I'd bet real money he doesn't do a [censored]ing single thing worthy of your trust. He's a crybaby bitch that liked to take shots at the one elite team in the B1G. I can't wait to see how often he [censored]s himself verbally in the SEC.

Saban's record may have neen avg at MSU, but most here knew he could coach. Had tOSU played MSU in '98, we probably would've been in one hell of a game.

There are a lot of similarities between Wisconsin and Arkansas. Little sister to the traditional conference powers, not an enormous amount of in-state talent, basically a one-college state, etc.

But the fact is, Bielema has a better Big 10 record, both overall and in-conference, than Alvarez or Saban by a pretty substantial margin.

His record compares favorably to every other coaching hire this cycle.

He isn't the only coach that has cried on camera. <coughcoughUrbanMeyercough>

I said he is a decent coach, and objectively, he is - maybe even a 'good' coach if we are objective about his record. Whether he'll be a 'great' coach for Arkansas depends on a lot of different factors.

The things in his favor over Wisconsin are that he'll have more money for better assistants, a bigger recruiting budget, access to a bigger talent pool and better facilities. And Fayetteville isn't in the frozen wasteland of Wisconsin. And it is the SEC.

For the record, my first choice was Charlie Strong, but I wasn't hopeful that he could be pried out of Louisville.

My position is that I'm going to keep my expectations low and hope for the best.
 
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Nutriaitch;2274901; said:
so typical of what Arkansas has always been.

We get it. You hate Arkansas.

Give it a rest. There is no need to be an asshole every time I make a post.

This can be a pleasant place to hang out.

If I had said "My expectation are that Bielema will lead us to an SECW title next year", you'd have assholed that comment as well.

This time last year, my expectations were pretty high. Bobby Petrino, his leggy blonde and JL Smiff crushed that.


Nutriaitch;2274901; said:
slightly off topic, you hearing anything about moving the LSU/Arky game to somewhere mid-season starting in 2014?

Yes, I expect our game with Mizzou to be moved to the last of the season, necessitating moving the LSU game.

And I think that will be a shame.

The Arkansas/LSU game on Friday after Thanksgiving has been a lot of fun - and has often had an impact on the SEC race.
 
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SmoovP;2274899; said:
But the fact is, Bielema has a better Big 10 record, both overall and in-conference, than Alvarez or Saban by a pretty substantial margin.

Not that it matters now but people may want to consider the extraordinary set of circumstances at play in the B1G the past 6 years or so that played a HUGE role in Bert's record. The Rich Rod crippling of the scUM program, Tatgate at OSU the past 2 years and Sandusky incident at PSU this year all padded his record.


My position is that I'm going to keep my expectations low and hope for the best.

A wise policy. Douchiness aside, he's vastly overrated.
 
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SmoovP;2274899; said:
There are a lot of similarities between Wisconsin and Arkansas. Little sister to the traditional conference powers, not an enormous amount of in-state talent, basically a one-college state, etc.

But the fact is, Bielema has a better Big 10 record, both overall and in-conference, than Alvarez or Saban by a pretty substantial margin.

His record compares favorably to every other coaching hire this cycle.

He isn't the only coach that has cried on camera. <coughcoughUrbanMeyercough>

I said he is a decent coach, and objectively, he is - maybe even a 'good' coach if we are objective about his record. Whether he'll be a 'great' coach for Arkansas depends on a lot of different factors.

The things in his favor over Wisconsin are that he'll have more money for better assistants, a bigger recruiting budget, access to a bigger talent pool and better facilities. And Fayetteville isn't in the frozen wasteland of Wisconsin. And it is the SEC.

For the record, my first choice was Charlie Strong, but I wasn't hopeful that he could be pried out of Louisville.

My position is that I'm going to keep my expectations low and hope for the best.

Well, Alvarez and Saban, besides, ya know, having to coach against each other, also had a good NW, Joe Paterno when he wasn't completely ridiculous, and a much better TSUN than Biff had to deal with. I admit to not keeping up on other teams facilities. Why are Arkansas' facilities better than Wisky?

I get that you gotta support your guy, but objectively, Biff coached in a seriously down B1G, winning two of his three conf titles in years where tOSU wasn't a factor...yet still lost two out of three to tOSU. I'd like to see a breakdown of NFL players from each school, because I don't think your talent level is much, if any better than Wisky's. I just think the talent was at different positions.
 
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SmoovP;2274910; said:
We get it. You hate Arkansas.

Give it a rest. There is no need to be an asshole every time I make a post.

This can be a pleasant place to hang out.

If I had said "My expectation are that Bielema will lead us to an SECW title next year", you'd have assholed that comment as well.

This time last year, my expectations were pretty high. Bobby Petrino, his leggy blonde and JL Smiff crushed that.


wow dude!
if you think I'm an asshole now, be thankful you're not a fan of a school higher up my hate list.

relax a bit. it's called shit talking, and I would appreciate it if you returned the favor rather than complain about it.

I rather enjoyed when you were getting cocky about the direction Arky was heading before Petrino had his moment this past offseason.


and yes, I would have absolutely talked more shit had you said Bielema was going to lead y'all to dominance.
And in my defense, I would have said the same thing to any other fan of any other SEC school (other than LSU).

Hell just ask Woof, i don't think I've ever said a good thing about his team, and we don't even play them every year.




SmoovP;2274910; said:
Yes, I expect our game with Mizzou to be moved to the last of the season, necessitating moving the LSU game.

And I think that will be a shame.

The Arkansas/LSU game on Friday after Thanksgiving has been a lot of fun - and has often had an impact on the SEC race.


yeah, I've been hearing rumors that our game with A&M will be moved to the last week.

I grew up hating A&M and was pissed when that rivalry ended in the mid-90's. So I'm actually in favor of that game being last, as I think it has potential to develop into a "true" rivalry.

Nothing against Arky, just that I don't think either team ever really embraced the other as their real rival.
the game being played on a friday afternoon when half the student body was home for the holidays didn't help matters much.
when played on the road, (prior to this season) it had been played in a smaller/older stadium well off campus when in Arkansas.


yeah it was a big game, but it just always felt "forced" to me and many LSU fans.
 
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SmoovP;2274899; said:
But the fact is, Bielema has a better Big 10 record, both overall and in-conference, than Alvarez or Saban by a pretty substantial margin.

His record compares favorably to every other coaching hire this cycle.

That's one way to spin it. Here's another: Biff's record

against OSU: 1-5
against Michigan St: 2-4
against Penn St: 2-3
against UM: 3-2
in bowl games: 2-4
 
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buckeyesin07;2274938; said:
That's one way to spin it. Here's another: Biff's record

against OSU: 1-5
against Michigan St: 2-4
against Penn St: 2-3
against UM: 3-2
in bowl games: 2-4

10-18 (and that's with Dickrod's scUM factored in).

Geez, I didn't know it was that bad. Somebody (Fiutak? Mandel?) wrote an article earlier this week saying that Biff inflated his record beating up on the sisters of the poor, along with the advantage of a down cycle in the B1G. Those numbers right up there pretty much bare that out. Good luck in the SEC West, Moobs. :lol:
 
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colobuck79;2273137; said:
A person could go to Douche University, work hard for years and earn a bachelors, masters and PhD in Doucheology, then become a professional Douche, become licensed at the state, federal and international levels as a Certified Douche, read every book on being a Douche, take every class, become an international expert, practice being a Douche for 12 hours a day. Then that person walks into a room with BB, the person would be out Douched in 5 seconds. He is that Douchey.

He did his PHD under Brian Kelly.
 
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SmoovP;2274899; said:
There are a lot of similarities between Wisconsin and Arkansas. Little sister to the traditional conference powers, not an enormous amount of in-state talent, basically a one-college state, etc.

But the fact is, Bielema has a better Big 10 record, both overall and in-conference, than Alvarez or Saban by a pretty substantial margin.

His record compares favorably to every other coaching hire this cycle.

He isn't the only coach that has cried on camera. <coughcoughUrbanMeyercough>

I said he is a decent coach, and objectively, he is - maybe even a 'good' coach if we are objective about his record. Whether he'll be a 'great' coach for Arkansas depends on a lot of different factors.

The things in his favor over Wisconsin are that he'll have more money for better assistants, a bigger recruiting budget, access to a bigger talent pool and better facilities. And Fayetteville isn't in the frozen wasteland of Wisconsin. And it is the SEC.

For the record, my first choice was Charlie Strong, but I wasn't hopeful that he could be pried out of Louisville.

My position is that I'm going to keep my expectations low and hope for the best.
"Frozen wasteland"

Frozen it may be, but wasteland it certainly is not. Have you ever been to Madison?
 
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SmoovP;2274899; said:
But the fact is, Bielema has a better Big 10 record, both overall and in-conference, than Alvarez or Saban by a pretty substantial margin.

You don't seem to realize the circumstances. While Alvarez's winning percentage at Winsconsin was .616 compared to Bi-Enema's .759, when Alvarez took over in 1990 that program was absolute shit, coming off a four year run of 9-36. It took him three years, but he eventually built the program up from the ground. He went to three Rose Bowl and won all three. When he left and Bi-Enema took over, Wisconsin was coming of 9-3 and 10-3 records, and with a loaded roster thanks to Alvarez even The Douche was able to coach them to a 12-1 record his first year. He then dropped to 9-4 and 7-6 seasons. He went to the Rose Bowl twice and lost both. The Douche may have as many B1G titles as did Alvarez (three each), but this year's "title" comes with an asterisk the size of a blackhole.

Don't be fooled by what The Douche was able to pull up in Madison...
 
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