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Buckeye Offensive Coordinator Discussion (merged)

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osugrad21 said:
How many balls did JT drop? How many blocks did he miss? I would bet my life savings these guys were thoroughly coached via film and practice...yet they did not get it done. How is that JT's fault? Ultimately, you can blame the coach. Realistically, the player failed to carry out his assignment.



In some instances yes, in others he mismanaged the game, in others he did not have his team ready...again, lack of execution.

I guess I should also say "period" now so I can show how vehemently I believe in my opinion...but I won't because I enjoy both sides of this debate. So instead, I'll just say "Piss off Jax." :wink2:
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lol, ok.

You know I'm not trying to argue or be beligirent(sp) but I guess its just my military background that will not allow me to buy the argument that its all on the players because they have been shown what to do. "There are no bad privates, only bad sargent's" is the line that sticks with me from PLDC to this day.

I manage a large number of people here in the civilian world and I am held responsible for their production with the utmost emphasis placed on the word period.:wink2:

If I had a group that was underperforming and replaced them with the next group and had the same issues I'd be sweating like a fag watching Brad Pitt eat a hot dog because my boss would be applying some serious heat. If I found out later that some members of the first group were having success once they left my care then I'd just start working on the resume and asking BP for a fundraiser.:biggrin:
 
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I was playing with ya bro. We've interacted enough for me to know there was no intention behind it.

In no way am I saying the offensive staff is in the clear here...not at all. However, I do realize that this is a relatively new system and I do respect that the staff is trying new things.

Tressel teams improve as the year goes on...I guess that is what keeps me calm. Texas hurt...and as BMax said, if the outcome was different, we would not be discussing this. However, I do expect great things from this team...
 
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Here's hoping that everything falls into place this weekend.

Great discussion, by the way.

I just worry that this type of winning, while it is great to win, will hurt the team in the long run. They already got jumped by Louisville in the polls and I'd hate to see Ohio State on the outside looking in because of style points.

I just think that at some point this team is going to need to score some points to take some of the pressure off of the defense. Michigan State comes to mind. Drew Stanton reminded me very much of a poor man's Vince Young on Saturday. His throwing has improved a lot since last season and he's very mobile. They may be the big hurdle in the Big Ten this year.
 
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The similarities between the offense we are seeing this year and the one we saw early in the 2004 season are shocking.

We all thought that with the performance of the offense the last few games of the 2004 season we were locked and loaded, but it has not shown up in 2005 yet.

Grad makes some good points about execution. The majority of the problems on offense are execution. Some may be the offensive scheme in relation to the players we have on the field. Are they suited to run this type of wide open offense? Is Coach Tressel comfortable calling plays in this type of offense?

Tressel's team historically get better as the year goes on, lets hope we do enough against Iowa to get the job done and then we have a bye week where we can build on our success.

I think the key is Troy Smith. If he performs well, the offensive woes will be less. I do not see the progression I was hoping to see from Troy and some of that can be contributed to missed practice time. I have always wondered if we bought into Troy Smith being the best fit for this team based on the Michigan game. To this point he has not duplicated that type of performance.

To have a successful offense, all 11 players must be on the same page and if you had a chance to watch the last game, there were countless missed assignments, dropped balls and missed reads by everyone.
 
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buckeyeboy said:
Uh, Jim Bollman maybe?
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I was "asked" by someone who, of course, chose to remain anonymous, to elaborate on this. I didn't think I had to, considering it should be obvious to anyone who's watched our running game the past few years. A quick example, however, to my anonymous friend who's apparently not been paying attention to OSU games the past few years: we had an absolutely horrendous running game throughout the '03 season, yet 3 of the offensive linemen are now STARTING in the NFL. What's wrong with that picture? Obviously, the talent is there.
 
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3 of the offensive linemen are now STARTING in the NFL. What's wrong with that picture? Obviously, the talent is there.
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There is more to running the ball than the offensive line, with all due respect to the running backs that played last year....the talent wasn't getting it done.

Now, with that said, I dislike the zone blocking scheme, I would love them to just go right at them, but I am not an offensive line coach.
 
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The first seems to me to be pretty obvious if you are of the mindset that the offensive assistants and coordinators need to change, and given the debatable improvements in our running game, then would not Dick's head also be on the chopping block? Talk about a really tough call for Jim Tressel.
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The responsibility for evaluating Dick Tressel is in the hands of Gene Smith.

There will be two Tressels on the Ohio State sideline this fall. OSU Coach Jim Tressel, 51, has hired his brother, Dick Tressel, 56, to coach the Buckeyes' running backs.

To avoid state employment ethics issues, OSU athletic director Andy Geiger will set Dick Tressel's salary and handle his evaluation. Dick Tressel spent the last three years as OSU associate director of football operations.
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The real issue here is if Jim Tressel and Gene Smith disagree about Dick's performance.
 
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