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Game Thread CFP Semifinal: Ohio State vs. Clemson, Sat 12/31 @ 7p ET, ESPN

Since most people are listing all the shitty things about this game..I'll throw some sunshine on this thread and post the best
parts of the game....

1. Every time we sacked Watson.... Felt very satisfying to take down the "best player in college football"

2. The 5 seconds we got to watch the band at the half

3. We played better than the last B1G team in the CFP

4. Brutus' photo bomb

5. Did I mention the band?
 
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It's because they aren't sure what to call... they're supposed to know what to call but they don't.

Band of Brothers said it best... "he wasn't a bad leader because he made poor decisions. He was a bad leader because he made NO DECISIONS"

We have fox hole Norman right now and we need a Major Winters


Which is what's so mind blowing about it. You run your base plays, and have constraint calls built into it so that the QB can hot read when the D starts to cheat.

But these idiots don't even know what the base offense is, let alone a constraint play.
 
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I knew this one was a long shot but I've never lived ANYWHERE that had a big sports event.

When I first found out about the NC being held here I thought....that's cool....but also knew this was a rebuilding year. I never expected to get a job around the corner from the stadium or thought there'd be any chance they'd be ONE FUCKING GAME AWAY.

For me, that's what makes this so heartbreaking. The only solice I have is the fact that I still have those days off. I'm just going to have to forget about all the awesome [Mark May] we could've experienced and be happy with a consolation prize.

We're going to have to go to a really fucking awesome trip to take the sting away.

Any suggestions? Within 4 hours of Tampa.

It's either that or lay in bed for 4 days ordering Chinese and watching Netflix in a dark room.

I spent the rest of the night watching Man in the High Castle and drinking Cognac Manhattans. YMMV
 
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Which is what's so mind blowing about it. You run your base plays, and have constraint calls built into it so that the QB can hot read when the D starts to cheat.

But these idiots don't even know what the base offense is, let alone a constraint play.
Yes.... in other words they're the ass holes that sample all of the flavors of ice cream because they cant make up their minds before ending up with vanilla as they always have ordered.
 
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I'm sorry you guys got beat. Whether you want to blame it on the coaches or the line or the qb, take solace in the fact that you guys faced a better team, but had a great season. I have a feeling clemson is destined to be the champ this year.

im assuming clemson fan? my apologies if i should know this, i haven't been paying attention much leading up to tonight :(.

if you are i just want to stress none of my posts are meant to take away from anything clemson accomplished tonight or this season. clemson is a legit nc caliber team, period. even if we were in OU form from the beginning of the season clemson still has a good shot to win this game. there is no shame in anyone loosing to that team. so i don't have a problem with that. my frustration is watching these kids put in the work and sacrifice only to be let down by their coaches. if kids go out there and screw the pooch? thats fine. you get beat by a better guy? that sucks, but its still fine. but i struggle with watching kids get put in a position to fail. i occasionally tell people that i sometimes pound my head against a wall because it feels so good when i stop. thats what tonight was. thats really what the last two years has been like for our offense.

we overachieved to make the playoffs this year. thats just a fact. a team with this amount of youth shouldn't make the playoffs. so its not about loosing tonight or to clemson or any loss from the last two years. its about what a lot of people are saying. "just fix the O and we have a great team". well, the best way to form expectations on future performance is to study the past. the current duo at the head of this offense has done nothing to date to give me any expectation that positive change is coming. thats my problem.

but all that said, please for the love of all things holy. go kick bamas fucking ass up and down the field. seriously, beat the shit out of those fucktards. i for one will be rooting for you. fucking sec.
 
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im assuming clemson fan? my apologies if i should know this, i haven't been paying attention much leading up to tonight :(.

if you are i just want to stress none of my posts are meant to take away from anything clemson accomplished tonight or this season. clemson is a legit nc caliber team, period. even if we were in OU form from the beginning of the season clemson still has a good shot to win this game. there is no shame in anyone loosing to that team. so i don't have a problem with that. my frustration is watching these kids put in the work and sacrifice only to be let down by their coaches. if kids go out there and screw the pooch? thats fine. you get beat by a better guy? that sucks, but its still fine. but i struggle with watching kids get put in a position to fail. i occasionally tell people that i sometimes pound my head against a wall because it feels so good when i stop. thats what tonight was. thats really what the last two years has been like for our offense.

we overachieved to make the playoffs this year. thats just a fact. a team with this amount of youth shouldn't make the playoffs. so its not about loosing tonight or to clemson or any loss from the last two years. its about what a lot of people are saying. "just fix the O and we have a great team". well, the best way to form expectations on future performance is to study the past. the current duo at the head of this offense has done nothing to date to give me any expectation that positive change is coming. thats my problem.

but all that said, please for the love of all things holy. go kick bamas fucking ass up and down the field. seriously, beat the [Mark May] out of those fucktards. i for one will be rooting for you. fucking sec.
He's a bama fan... but we didn't over achieve we just left our offensive players out to freaking dry. Our staff failed them.
 
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im assuming clemson fan? my apologies if i should know this, i haven't been paying attention much leading up to tonight :(.

if you are i just want to stress none of my posts are meant to take away from anything clemson accomplished tonight or this season. clemson is a legit nc caliber team, period. even if we were in OU form from the beginning of the season clemson still has a good shot to win this game. there is no shame in anyone loosing to that team. so i don't have a problem with that. my frustration is watching these kids put in the work and sacrifice only to be let down by their coaches. if kids go out there and screw the pooch? thats fine. you get beat by a better guy? that sucks, but its still fine. but i struggle with watching kids get put in a position to fail. i occasionally tell people that i sometimes pound my head against a wall because it feels so good when i stop. thats what tonight was. thats really what the last two years has been like for our offense.

we overachieved to make the playoffs this year. thats just a fact. a team with this amount of youth shouldn't make the playoffs. so its not about loosing tonight or to clemson or any loss from the last two years. its about what a lot of people are saying. "just fix the O and we have a great team". well, the best way to form expectations on future performance is to study the past. the current duo at the head of this offense has done nothing to date to give me any expectation that positive change is coming. thats my problem.

but all that said, please for the love of all things holy. go kick bamas fucking ass up and down the field. seriously, beat the [Mark May] out of those fucktards. i for one will be rooting for you. fucking sec.

They're a (rare) nice Bama fan. The " Roll Tide" signature was what gave it away.
 
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but we didn't over achieve we just left our offensive players out to freaking dry. Our staff failed them.

both can be true and in this situation i believe them to be. this team with this much youth shouldn't be a win away from playing for a nc in football. it just shouldn't. but to see a team go so far beyond what they should be capable of and to succeed to this level while being hung out to freaking dry by the staff. that hurts.
 
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I was going back through some of my posts from last year. Urban is an absolute legend, but he's now facing a credibility crisis with his own players. You can't talk the talk about a high performance culture and keep people like Beck around. It's toxic to the commitment you're asking of players. I posted this last January - am I wrong, or does the offensive tape stick out like a sore thumb?

"Was going back through Urban's book earlier tonight and transcribing notes from the pages I'd dogeared - this paragraph stuck out. Remind me again why this guy is still here?

"If players are going to make the big push to join the elites, they need to believe it will be worth it. It’s important to remind them of the quality of leadership at Ohio State - let them know they are being taught by masters of their craft who have made a significant difference in other players’ lives. I make sure that my assistant coaches showcase the achievements of other great players they have worked with. Visuals such as videos and images are incredible tools to convey a message. It may not seem like a big deal, but these sorts of associations are important. It’s not about bragging. It’s about reinforcing that this is a special place that has produced special players. It’s about motivating the 80 percenters. When I walk into my own office and I see championship trophies, photos with presidents, keepsakes, and mementos and clippings of the Heisman Trophy finalists and winners I’ve coached, I feel good. If a prospective recruit is motivated by wanting to be part of that club, well, that makes me feel good, too."

We all remember what Zeke said last year - plus Taylor Decker (first minute):



These are Buckeye legends who are going to come around campus for decades to come. Think about how awkward it would be for them to publicly blast a coach knowing he's going to be there when they return - you only do that when you feel incredibly strongly. The good news is Urban's built a culture where people feel that level of ownership - the bad news is that is at risk the longer you keep people around that step on all the hard work the players put in. Beck doesn't belong. He'd lost the players last year, and did nothing but cement their suspicions this year.

Sounds like Urban's saying the right things post-game today - but he said similar things last year about it "not being a part of our history, and not happening again" last year: (first 6 minutes + 15:25 in):


I hope this time it's backed up by action so we don't have another year wondering what might have been. We all know you can't win championships every year, and there are some ways of losing you have to accept. Losing this way is not one that we should accept, and since championships are so hard, we can't continue to throw away opportunities like we have the last 2 years.


And add another player questioning the coaching:
“I didn't understand that, but like I said I don't call the plays, that's not up to me,” Weber said.

Barrett's final line stood at 19-of-33 for 127 yards and the two interceptions, with 11 rushes going for -2 yards. Just as it had all season, the offensive couldn't depend on its passing game.

“We will become a good passing team, we will,” Meyer said. “Next year.”

Clemson sacked Barrett three times and the Tigers finished with 11 tackles for loss. The overwhelmed Ohio State in all aspects, leading to what will be a long offseason with loads of questions about the offensive identity and those responsible for orchestrating it.

“Our plan was to be balanced. We didn't follow the plan,” Meyer said. “I'm going to take a hard look at some things when we get back.”

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...in-fiesta-bowl-leading-to-worst-loss-of-urban

Meyer again saying things that make me think changes will come this time around - I sure hope so.
 
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I just hope the same fate of MSU doesn't await us for 2017. Get shut out in the playoff and then go 3-9? That'd really blow.

Realistically, I know that's not going to happen. But, it's just a reminder that there are fanbases out there that have it way worse than us.

On the flip side.... The "Best Conference in College Football" is now 2-5 in bowl games.

The ACC? 7-2
 
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They're a (rare) nice Bama fan. The " Roll Tide" signature was what gave it away.

doh! might help if i didn't have sigs disabled :p. well then...

Gcashwel, thanks for the post and being a cool bama fan :). let clemson win though if at all possible. that way next year when your playing for the nc again whoever your playing will feel like they actually have a shot before you crush their souls like a small bug :p.

i don't actually have a problem with bama or saban, i have a great deal of respect for both. its the media love affair that drives me insane. well, really just the media love affair with all things sec to be honest. good luck in the nc. <-- i was crossing my fingers when i typed that btw :biggrin:. seriously though, good luck and congrats for the run your on. i hate to admit it but bama is making college football better as everyone has to work harder to raise their play to their level. ugh... i did not enjoy typing that.
 
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