Former DC Kerry Coombs (Cincy Bearcats Interim Head Coach)

[billmac91]

The most-likely scenario, in my mind, with Coombs is he retires at the end of the season rather than get outright fired.

The sad thing is we won't learn anything the next few weeks because Ohio State overmatches opponents.

End of the day, Ryan Day knows he needs to make a change and will. But Coombs won't get fired unless he refuses to leave (which he won't).

I disagree….Kerry is a good dude and he knows.

I’d expect OSU to bring a “co-defensive coordinator” in next offseason. How they divvy up responsibility will be interesting, but I fully expect Coombs to be on staff for next 3-5 years.

 

[Jake]

There's more to college football than recruiting. Coombs did his Don Brown imitation today, sticking with his man defense no matter how many times it was used against him.

By the time Ohio State began mixing coverages, Oregon already had five touchdowns.

 

[1926Buckeyes]

There's more to college football than recruiting. Coombs did his Don Brown imitation today, sticking with his man defense no matter how many times it was used against him.

By the time Ohio State began mixing coverages, Oregon already had five touchdowns.

I have faint hope that he'll now be forced into doing it sooner and more often now. Hard to evaluate at the end of the game because Oregon was in a different mindset, but the D looked solid for 2-3 drives.

 

[Jake]

I’d expect OSU to bring a “co-defensive coordinator” in next offseason. How they divvy up responsibility will be interesting, but I fully expect Coombs to be on staff for next 3-5 years.

With all due respect, I hope you're wrong. Coombs should be a high school head coach next season. Ohio State is too big for him.

 

[Dryden]

I know coordinators get replaced in-season all the time in the pros, but how often during the season in college?

Not often. Most notable one off the top of my head was Mack Brown firing Manny Diaz in September 2013 after the Taysom Hill game, when BYU gained 550 yards rushing and Hill ran for over 250.

Day already has Paul Rhodes on staff, and he was a great DC in Pittsburgh under Walt Harris and Wannstache. His claim to fame was holding that Pat White/Steve Slaton WVU offense to 9 points and 180 yards in the 2007 upset. Couldn’t possibly do worse at this point.

 

[Bestbuck36]

Not often. Most notable one off the top of my head was Mack Brown firing Manny Diaz in September 2013 after the Taysom Hill game, when BYU gained 550 yards rushing and Hill ran for over 250.

Day already has Paul Rhodes on staff, and he was a great DC in Pittsburgh under Walt Harris and Wannstache. His claim to fame was holding that Pat White/Steve Slaton WVU offense to 9 points and 180 yards in the 2007 upset. Couldn’t possibly do worse at this point.

Is he one of those famed "analysts"? Give him the damn headsets!!

 

[808 Buck]

Is he one of those famed "analysts"? Give him the damn headsets!!

If he can get the corner and backer to communicate an exchange on the edge versus outside run, I approve.

 

[Jake]

Obviously, some folks still believe in fairy tales. I do not.

Coombs is in over his head as DC at Ohio State, and drowning. Alabama dreams of going against him in another NC game.

 

[BuckBuckTN]

rest of CFB doesn’t matter… if you wanna win the Championship.. ask yourself what would Saban do?

This is the real question. The scary true answer is: Saban would've hired better.

Saban doesn't really fire many DCs because they usually move on up to decent Head Coach positions or NFL positions almost invariably.

Next question: who is going to hire Coombs to be their Head Coach or an NFL position? Yeah.....I got nothing.

Coaching failures are always a top down problem. Your job as a Head Coach is to hire the talent to carry out your vision.

 

[Dryden]

This is the real question. The scary true answer is: Saban would've hired better.

Saban doesn't really fire many DCs because they usually move on up to decent Head Coach positions or NFL positions almost invariably.

Next question: who is going to hire Coombs to be their Head Coach or an NFL position? Yeah.....I got nothing.

Coaching failures are always a top down problem. Your job as a Head Coach is to hire the talent to carry out your vision.

Smart leaders learn from their mistakes. Smarter leaders learn from others’ mistakes. Leadership consultant and author John Maxwell wrote a book titled Leadership Gold, and in that book is a chapter titled, “Don’t send your ducks to eagle school,” about the Peter Principle. Promoting people from within has massive ramifications in any organization, and it will almost always go poorly, because you wind up weakening two positions instead of just one.

 

[BigthickThaddeus_gibson09]

I disagree….Kerry is a good dude and he knows.

I’d expect OSU to bring a “co-defensive coordinator” in next offseason. How they divvy up responsibility will be interesting, but I fully expect Coombs to be on staff for next 3-5 years.

fully expect him to be there for 3-5 years!!??? You’re outrageous, did you forget our defense has been in position to let the other team kill us for three games straight?? He should not be anywhere near campus unless the defense has a complete turn around for the rest of the year.

your loyalty would be commendable if the Ohio state didn’t have the ability to hire a great and proven replacement.

 

[DaytonBuck]

There’s so many really good, young DC’s out there. I said last off-season we should make a play for Coastal Carolina’s DC and get some fresh blood in system.

I’ll be honest….wasn’t huge fan of promoting Parker Fleming…..u can’t miss on these hires. Felt like OSU went a little cheap. Will be interesting to see how they handle this going forward.

The Parker Fleming hire seemed strange to me

Special teams is important but kick off is basically a formality now

Punt Return is do no harm

I’m sure it helps the staff having one guy on this but in today’s game it seems like a support staff guy could handle this and give input to the coaches

I haven’t seen anything to suggest he’s got any real experience working with kickers and punters

I haven’t seen connected to any recruits any unlike everyone else on staff

this was really a spot to put in a great defensive coach

 

[DaytonBuck]

Last year we gave up the most points per game in school history.

Two games in this year - 66 points and 913 yards.

6 five star and 34 four star athletes on defense.

These are the facts of the case - and they are undisputed.

The scary thing to me is this happened with that much talent on paper

if Michigan States D was out there today Oregon might have run for a 1,000 yards

 

[DaytonBuck]

I know coordinators get replaced in-season all the time in the pros, but how often during the season in college?

Manny Diaz got fired by Mack Brown for giving up a bunch of rushing yards against BYU

 

[Buckeneye]

scUM just ran the ball 54 times..

Smart leaders learn from their mistakes. Smarter leaders learn from others’ mistakes. Leadership consultant and author John Maxwell wrote a book titled Leadership Gold, and in that book is a chapter titled, “Don’t send your ducks to eagle school,” about the Peter Principle. Promoting people from within has massive ramifications in any organization, and it will almost always go poorly, because you wind up weakening two positions instead of just one.

The president of my company must have read that book. Because we've gone to outside hires on a half dozen positions between engineers and management in the past 18 months. Jobs/careers that people with time and experience in my company were gunning for in the hopes of professional advancement.

The ramification from such a strategy is that we've had 9 people leave in that same time span. Because when you don't give quality employees the ability to move up, they instead move out.

I've seen employees better suited and more competent for higher positions than lower ones. I myself and am example of that because I hated my previous position, it's lack of challenge and professional unsatisfaction.

However I would suspect football to be a different animal. I've never met a bad high school coach go on to be an effective collegiate coach. I've only seen one mediocre collegiate coach go on to find moderate success in the NFL - Cliff Kingsbury. And his sun may be setting in Arizona.

What I'm saying is, I don't think a concept meant for the business world offers an appreciable application to a football coaching structure.

And this certainly isn't me defending Coombs.