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Game Thread Game Five: Penn State 17, Ohio State 10 (Final)

Chris Fowler posted a note in his blog last night that PSU/OSU is the favorite amongst the crew for College GameDay next week. They haven't been to Happy Valley since 1999, and what game could give them better backstory than the emergence of King and Williams versus the disappearance of Ginn?

On the flip-side, maybe some of the creativity PSU is suddenly showing will make its way into OSU's playbook as the staff studies the PSU offense and all the different ways PSU has devised to get Williams the ball (2 TDs on 6 carries from a RB position).
 
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I used to think that scUM fans were the worst, that was before i ventured over to the PSU rival board.

There is no doubt that Penn. St. has some of the worst fans in sports. I was treated like absolute dogshit when I visited there for a game in the 90's.

Give me a break, the only reason that PSU will be even remotely in this game is because of the home crowd...

I wouldn't be so sure. I do think we will win, but this Penn. St. is playing with some emotion and looked very impressive yesterday.
 
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Shut down Maroney, and then who on Minny can beat you? Brian Cupito???

They beat a mediocre at best Minnesota team by stopping Maroney, and everyone knows that Minnesotas defense is soft all around.

I watched the whole game yesterday, and while they did look better than I expected, they were playing against a decent one-dimensional team. Minnesota didnt show up to play football at all, as soon as they stepped foot on the field they were done.
 
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The thing that all of us are forgetting here is the outcome last year... Yes it was at the shoe' but the personel was the same. My point is OSU shut down thier running game (run defense is even better this year) and in contrast OSU was able to have a steady running game. Not to mention that was the 2nd game Troy had started, had no true running back, defense was still finding itself, and we still only had 1 true reciever. I look for OSU to win by 7-14 points.

Plus you have to figure in that Yes Penn State has a talented group of recievers on offense but you don't plug in TWO true freshman recievers and win ball games against most likely the best defense in the nation. Also Penn State's defense looked slow defending the option against northwestern, and something leads me to think that Troy is JUST A BIT faster than Brent Bazenes. I think if OSU just plays fundamental football with no costly turnovers, and no big penalties we'll more than likely win this ball game.

Even in the worst case senerio which would be both teams running games are non existant it'll come down to Robinson against Troy Smith and once again we have the much more accurate passer. Troy also holds on to the ball alot better and doesn't throw nearly as many picks. Considering how Troy has fumbled a bit this year thats not a good thing for Robinson. Also both Special teams will come into play and we all know who has the advantage there. Ginn seems like he's coming back to life on punt returns... maybe he returns one this week?
 
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See comment about Ginn (below).

Updated: Oct. 2, 2005, 5:18 PM ET
Freshmen give Penn State new look, new attitude


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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top><!-- begin leftcol --><!-- template inline -->STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- With the sun setting on a perfect football Saturday and the home team up 30 big ones, a familiar chant shook Beaver Stadium.
"We are!" bellowed one side of the stadium.
"Penn State!" roared the other side.
Back and forth it went. With feeling. And with good reason.
For the first time in years, being Penn State is something to shout about.
Being Penn State means being a player on the national scene once again. It means a 5-0 record for the first time since 1999, the end of an 11-game losing streak against ranked opponents, an impending national ranking, a ton of hype for Ohio State's arrival next Saturday and happy chants echoing through Happy Valley. It means the Nittany Lions stand alongside Alabama, Nebraska and Notre Dame in the Resurgent Old Money Program department.

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Derrick Williams is just one reason Penn State's offense is among the -- get this -- most exciting in the country.


And it means that fans have something to talk about other than when 78-year-old program patriarch Joe Paterno will hang it up.
The main topic of conversation these days: How 'bout those incredible freshmen, Derrick Williams and Justin King?
"I'm telling you, I love it!" exulted Dwight Williams, Derrick's dad, beneath the stadium stands after Penn State had finished mauling No. 18 Minnesota 44-14. "All these guys who have been counting us out, talking about Joe Paterno, just sit back and watch. We're back in the picture.
"That was the best! The best! That's why we came here -- exactly why we came here."
At that point, Dwight Williams was so excited he hugged me, two minutes after meeting me. Meanwhile, 106,000 fans wanted to embrace his son, who lined up everywhere but lead tuba player and scored the Nittany Lions' first two touchdowns.
Williams and King met as 10th graders at a Nike football camp here in State College. Both ran 4.29 40-yard dashes, according to Williams. The kid from suburban Washington D.C. and the kid from Pittsburgh talked then about going to school together, and followed through.
They committed to Paterno when the Nittany Lions were about as trendy as a mullet hairdo. Penn State was passé, with a 26-33 record this century, and all the "it" schools wanted the two ultrafast athletes. Yet here they came, enrolling last January for the chance to wear those old-time uniforms and play for that old-time coach in the Land That Modern Football Forgot.
"Me and Justin kept saying we didn't want to jump on the bandwagon of a team," Williams said. "We wanted to make an impact."
They've made the impact of a meteorite smashing the Earth. That's one of the theories for what killed off the dinosaurs, and the arrival of Williams and King helped kill off Penn State's Pleistocene Era offense.
For the first time since -- when, the Kerry Collins Era? -- the Nittany Lions are fun to watch offensively. An attack that has historically been every bit as cutting edge as a rotary phone suddenly looks hip.
Offensive coordinator Galen Hall has the Nittanies running a creative spread offense. They threw the ball 32 times against Minnesota, with a whopping 18 of those passes on first down. They changed formations freely, ran reverses and -- are you listening, Jim Tressel? -- found a number of ways to get the ball to the electrifying Williams.
While Ted Ginn Jr. is chronically and criminally underused by Tressel's Buckeyes, Penn State lined up Williams at slot receiver, tailback, kickoff returner and even quarterback Saturday. He touched the ball a dozen times in the first three quarters against the Gophers and racked up 109 all-purpose yards. His first TD came from tailback on an option play, and his second came from the slot on a reverse.
"He's a true playmaker," said Rick Houchens, Williams' coach at Eleanor Roosevelt High School in Greenbelt, Md. "I don't know of many players on the college level doing as many things as he is on the football field. Reggie Bush is about the only one.
"If he's doing this as a freshman? Oh my gosh, those NFL scouts' eyes have got to be popping right now."
King also is being utilized creatively. A cornerback by trade, he's seen time on offense as well, and he turned in a 19-yard run on a reverse against Minnesota. For the season, King has 221 yards on 11 touches -- better than 20 yards a touch.
In a sign of the changing times, Paterno said Penn State didn't get King involved enough offensively. That's because the coaches thought they'd need him more on defense.
Turns out the defense was barely tested. Penn State pulverized Laurence Maroney, the nation's leading rusher, holding him to 48 black-and-blue yards. With its zone-blocking running game shut down, the Gophers went three-and-out their first three possessions and trailed 17-0 before recording their first first down.
Minnesota's aerially challenged offense is not built for comeback football, so the game was basically over at that point. Funny thing is, that used to be Penn State.
Not anymore.
"With the personnel we have now, you can go into a game thinking you can throw the football," Paterno said. "We're pretty balanced right now."
Quarterback Michael Robinson -- who actually turned in the hit of the game, knocking out strong safety Brandon Owens to finish off a run -- said Penn State's speed at receiver is forcing defenses to play the Nits more honestly.
"[Opposing safeties] are not coming up like they used to," Robinson said. "Not as fast."
That's another tribute to Williams.
"He gives us speed, attitude, a little bit of a swagger," Robinson said. "This is a guy who hasn't lost much. That's one thing the freshmen are giving us. They haven't lost, so they don't have that losing mentality. That's one thing they've taught the older guys."
And that's why Williams can matter-of-factly say that the team's goal is the national championship.
"A successful season is going to the Rose Bowl," Williams said.
That might be asking a lot this year. But as long as Derrick Williams and Justin King are wearing those old-time uniforms, the Penn State fans will have something to shout about.
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I used to think that scUM fans were the worst, that was before i ventured over to the PSU rival board.

I guess I missed the memo that our linebackers are overrated, and that their linebacking core are the best in the country. We dont have a chance, we are 3-1 and they are 5-0!!!

Some of the same over on the PSU Scout board. To be fair, it's a mix of level-headed posters and a few boneheads, like most other boards. From the latter group, some of the more interesting claims:

-Penn St will beat OSU 35-10, or worse
-PSU's linebackers are at least as good as OSU's
-Penn St. has arguably the best receiving corps. in the nation
-Penn St. possesses the most versatile offense that OSU will see this year
 
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The Nit fans are talking sh*t! "We'll try not to put 63 on you this time!" They've truly bought into this JoePa's New Age Offense thang! We need to give them a hard dose of Buckeye football this Saturday! :crazy:
 
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I watched the PSU/Minn game (not of my own volition, but b/c ABC forced me by not switching to the USC/Ariz. St. game), and I wasn't that impressed with PSU. That blowout was more a product of Minnesota being overrated and playing on the road. Not to mention they showed how incredibly one-dimensional their offense is.
 
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The Nit fans are talking sh*t! "We'll try not to put 63 on you this time!" They've truly bought into this JoePa's New Age Offense thang! We need to give them a hard dose of Buckeye football this Saturday! :crazy:
Fuck Penn State and the horse they rode in on. Have they played a 1-A team besides Minny (who is always overrated this time of year)? I think we beat these pukes by 30.
 
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I like how they think that King and Derrick Williams are the second coming of Jesus Christ.

And how their linebackers are better than ours.

And how their offense will have 30 on us.

And how they claim they have the better kicking game.

And how we cant run the football at all, period.

Michael Robinson is actually better than Vince Young, has anyone else noticed this???


I think we beat the bastards by at least 20, they are so high on the Penn State kool-aid, just becuase they beat an one-dimensional overrated Minnesota team...
 
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I'd like to say how Penn State is overrated, and how their fans are way too overconfident, but I can't.

The truth is, their defense is starting to gel. Their offense couldn't do anything with the ball last year, yet they were able to hold EVERY team to 21 points or less. This year the defense is just as good and more experienced, returning most of their starters. They gave up 24 against Cincy, but 14 of those were in the last seconds of the game. The first string had them up 42-10. The only time this year their defense has looked anything but exceptional was during the first half at Northwestern, and the way the defense clamped down in the 2nd half of that game was quite good. Since then they've been lights out, right back to their 2004 fashion. This defense also seems to play much better at home, like any defense would. Since the start of the 2004 season this defense has only given up more than 14 points at home twice, (24 against Cincy this year in a blowout, and 20 against Purdue last year).

The Penn State defense is for real and it's got the home crowd (2nd best in the Big 10) behind it. Now all of a sudden their offense is coming alive and they are looking like a strong football team.

Now our defense is flat out better than theirs, even though they have a great one. But it hasn't played on the road this year yet, that could be a test. Our offense is also better than theirs, even though their's is starting to look strong too. But our offense hasn't had to deal with a hostle crowd. The toughest crowd Troy Smith has delt with in his career is Purdue. I've been to both Purdue and Penn State. Purdue doesn't even come close to being as loud as Penn State.

If this game is at home...it's not much more difficult than the Iowa game. But it's not, and that changes everything. Ohio State must come out of this bye week as strong as they entered it. We need to score early and get the crowd out of it (that's going to be tough to do, they've been waiting for a game like this FOR YEARS). This game was a trap game before the season started. Now it's much more than that. It's a HUGE game with Big 10 and national title implications, for both teams. It's gonna be one hell of fight out there Saturday night.
 
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