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Glen Mason (official thread)

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stpaulgoph said:
Well since none of you probably follows Minney football at all (why would you) I figure I would jump in. I had this in another thread on the Minney game

I am not a Mason hater--I appreciate lots of good things he did for our program, but I can understand why it was time to move on.

He brought us back from a doormat program into a national stage. We had some good teams (1999, and 2003) and had arguably the best running game this conference has ever seen producing an NCAA record 2 1000 yard rushers 2 years in a row.

He helped secure funding for a stadium, and brought us to 6 bowls in 10 years. Football fans around the country still remember Maroney and Barber. The win over PSU in 99 was one of the best sporting highlights of my life.

But he had some on field and off field problems. On field was his inability to field even average defenses. Mason is the proud owner of the largest and 3rd largest come from behind bowl losses in NCAA history. Many more in conference play.

Gophers ran for 424 yards against Michigan and lost.

Gophers had a 38-7 lead in the 3rd quarter against Texas Tech and lost.

Gophers had a 24-8 lead in the 3rd against NC State and lost.

etc etc...

He 37-52 against BCS opponents (we were the poster child for cupcake scheduling under him) and he was 11-43 against the top 3 Big Ten Schools (OSU, Michigan, and PSU) and our two biggest Rivals Iowa and Wisky.

He referred to die hard rivalries as "trinket games" and used the word "rebuilding" in his 10th year in charge. Both of these statements really [censored]ed off the fan base.

Minney had the worst graduation rate in the Big Ten for football in his tenure.

I think he lost a lot of passion after the tOSU pass over, and never seemed the same.

He couldnt recruit. He hit Ohio pretty good, but Brewsters first class with a 1-11 record is better than Mason's best coming off his 10-3 season.

Mason got the Gophers from total losers to 8-4 and 7-5 year in and year out, however that seemed like the ceiling with him at the helm. We were once a powerhouse (6 national titles) and fans think we deserve better.

Thats my two cents. I saw him this summer and shook his hand and said "thanks" and he seemed friendly about it. A nice guy, and wish him the best. We just want something with more passion and a higher ceiling, esp with the new stadium.
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good but not great. id agree with everything you said. the grass is always greener...
 
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Nice to see a Gopher on board. I have ties to Minnesota myself and have always rooted for the Gophers when not playing the Bucks.

As for the "once a powerhouse" - so were Yale and Harvard. A long, long road uphill to get back to that point. And I fear that Minnie has become one of those programs where if a coach does prove he can take a program to the top level he will take an offer to do it elsewhere first.


And I have to tell one of my favorite football stories that my Dad told me. He grew up in Minneapolis before TV and instant replays - back when "Home Field" advantage meant a lot more than it does now.

This particular game was sometime in the '30s (he couldn't recall the specifics). Minnesota was close to a first down. They asked for a measurement and were inches short.

Next play they were off sides. Five yards backwards.

Following play the Defense was off sides. Five yards forwards.

Minnie asked for another measurement and guess what? First down Gophers.
 
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Oh8ch;1270448; said:
As for the "once a powerhouse" - so were Yale and Harvard. A long, long road uphill to get back to that point. And I fear that Minnie has become one of those programs where if a coach does prove he can take a program to the top level he will take an offer to do it elsewhere first.
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Thats a bit of a cheap shot. We arent talking 1890's here. Gophers have 6 NC's, but its been 40 years. Same amount of time since we had a Big Ten title, but we still have 3rd most Big Ten Titles

If you want to cut off like pre 1965 then Ohio State only has 3 NC's?! Doesnt make sense to me.

I think if a coach makes it here--he will stay for a bit. Twin Cities is arguably the best metro area in the Big Ten (not a slight on C Bus) and we will have the "nicest" stadium in the Big Ten. I think this can be a settling job as much/if not more than Iowa or Wisky which have been places where coaches have "roosted"
 
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jimotis4heisman;1270472; said:
lets not get into this my thing is bigger/better than your thing discussion...

minnesota has a great history. one that many (especially younger posters) dont know about. o8ch is well aware of the history, trust me...
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I am not trying to start a "bigger/better" discussion, especially with OSU football.

As much as you enjoy posters from other schools respectfully offering ideas, other schools appreciate posts that dont appear arrogant :biggrin:

Minney's stadium will be great--and with an on campus facility I was just saying MN can and should be as much of a coaching settle spot like Iowa or Wisky. Of course these are second tier to Michigan and tOSU.
 
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stpaulgoph said:
I am not trying to start a "bigger/better" discussion, especially with OSU football.

As much as you enjoy posters from other schools respectfully offering ideas, other schools appreciate posts that dont appear arrogant :biggrin:

Minney's stadium will be great--and with an on campus facility I was just saying MN can and should be as much of a coaching settle spot like Iowa or Wisky. Of course these are second tier to Michigan and tOSU.
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it wasnt directed at you, we had a similar "conversation" with asu and lets just say it can tend to pile on and turn a tad nasty.

i fully plan on checking the new place out, granted ill probably be all bundled up. trust me it wont take me 5years to get up there for a game. i like to say ive been to every b10 stadium.
 
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jimotis4heisman;1270493; said:
it wasnt directed at you, we had a similar "conversation" with asu and lets just say it can tend to pile on and turn a tad nasty.

i fully plan on checking the new place out, granted ill probably be all bundled up. trust me it wont take me 5years to get up there for a game. i like to say ive been to every b10 stadium.
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Here is a link to TCF Bank Stadium.

In the open horseshoe end you can see Williams Arena (the barn) and Marriucci Area where Mens Hockey plays. Literally 3 of the corners in that intersection will be sports arena's.
 
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stpaulgoph;1270498; said:
Here is a link to TCF Bank Stadium.
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Quick Stadium Highlights
The stadium?s open-air horseshoe design allows a capacity of 50,000, which includes general seats and an impressive array of Premium Seating. With sustainability in mind, 97% of the nearly 9,000 tons of steel used in the structure comes from recycled steel. Flexibility is also a key component of the design, with expansion up to 80,000 seats. All those seats are housed in a collegiate look and feel that will complement the campus environment, create two landscaped plazas, and accommodate other uses. The total cost is $288.5 million, which includes site preparation, the stadium itself, and district improvements.
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Wow, that's pretty cool.

Nice looking stadium. Perhaps 2010 would be a good time to visit my Uncle in Minneapolis. :biggrin:
 
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stpaulgoph;1270540; said:
Hansen is a good prospect....hell any MN hockey player is. I follow the Wild, but much like C-Bus is a OSU football town, Twin Cities is all Gopher Hockey.
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better keep the cbj fans updated on his play for the gophers. and while youre at it youll probably get a good look at cody goloubef (wisc) and matt matt greer (minn-duluth), i think you also have a home game agains msu and some cbj prospects this year
 
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FCollinsBuckeye;1270538; said:
Perhaps 2010 would be a good time to visit my Uncle in Minneapolis. :biggrin:
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You can visit anytime, young FCollins.

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Coaching bios from the time in the '80 when Mason was tOSU's OC, and JT was an offensive assistant.

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Glen Mason is a 1972 graduate of Ohio State with a bachelor's degree in education. He was a letterwinner at middle gaurd on the Buckeyes' 1970 Big Ten championship team.

In 1978, Mason returned to his alma mater and spent the next eight years under Ohio State head coaches Woody Hayes and Earle Bruce. In each of those seasons, the Buckeyes appeared in eight postseason bowl games - Fiesta Bowl (1980, 1983), Liberty Bowl (1981), Holiday Bowl (1982), Gator Bowl (1978), Citrus Bowl (1985) and Rose Bowl (1980, 1984).

Mason coached outside linebackers and the offensive line before being promoted to offensive coordinator in 1980, where he served until 1986.

During his tenure as offensive coordinator in Columbus, the Buckeyes led the Big Ten in scoring offense four times and total offense twice.

Current Buckeye head coach Jim Tressel worked with Mason for three seasons as Ohio State quarterbacks abd receivers coach from 1983-85.
Mason moved on to serve as head coach at Kent State (1986-87), Kansas (1988-96) and Minnesota (1997-2006). He will be in the television booth Saturday as game analyst for Big Ten Network.

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