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Herby apologizes on behalf of ESPN for Mark and Trev!!

While I appreciate Herbstreit's comments, which I did not hear, I do not expect an apology from him. ESPiN has decided that this is a story that is in their interest to run. They believe that because they think it will have a positive effect on their bottom line. This is about ESPiN editorial policy, not Herbstreit. The baseless allegations, etc, I need not go back there. But, this was obscene. It's not even about Alberts and May going over the line badly.

Many previous posters made very good points. As I read the thread, it seems some people are asking "why hold Herbstreit to a standard other than that to which we hold any sportscaster, just because he played at OSU"? Some people appear to be answering,"because that local gig is really quite good for Herbstreit and he used his OSU connections to put himself in the place he now resides". Are we are too close to Herbstreit to realize that he has become a national celebrity sportscaster? Is it in our interest to have someone who loves OSU in that position?

In my opinion, Herbstreit is entitled to his opinions about OSU football, Jim Tressel, our offense, whatever. He is a paid commentator and is paid to express his opinions. So are Alberts and May. However, a line is crossed when a series of lies and half-truths are used to smear a University and the individuals that work there. To my knowledge, Herbstreit has not participated in that.

So, I have some difficulty understanding what Herbstreit is apologizing for, really. He will not advance his career by being part of a Mutt and Jeff team at ESPiN and I accept his bona fides. He is a Buckeye, in my opinion, but I understand why so many on BP are disappointed in him not coming out in defense of OSU more. Is this his way of saying, "You may not think so, but I do have your backs guys!"? Or is he saying, "Listen, Andy, I'm sorry." Or is he just reading from a script? I don't know and I don't care. What I do know is that it is is up to ESPiN and the individuals that have been directly involved to apologize to Ohio State, to Andy Geiger, Jim Tressel, the team, the University and its supporters.

Whatever we may think, it seems wise to put ourselves in Herbstreit's shoes if we want to understand his actions. What if he defended OSU and then dirt does come out? That would kill his career. Would that misguided loyalty to OSU have been worth $5-10 million to him over the next decade? Is it fair to ask him to roll those dice just so we can all feel better?

On the other hand, integrity is not something one can buy and we all have to look in the mirror in the morning. My guess is that Herbstreit is about as stressed out about all this as Geiger is. He is well and truly stuck in the middle. He must show independence and yet remain loyal. Tough stuff to do and I think he has done a pretty good job of it so far, given the cards he has been dealt.

As regards an apology, if another hundred boosters emerged from the woodwork this would still be inconsequential to the reasons why an ESPiN apology is needed. This is about reporting that Ohio State is guilty of problems on the basis of hearsay by people with questionable motives and on virtually no evidence. The apology isn't whether ESPiN was right or wrong, it is about the allegations they have made and the way they have defamed and slandered OSU without cause.

I like Kirk Herbstreit. I do not expect him to defend us but rather to remind viewers that an NCAA investigation requested by Ohio State is underway after allegations by Maurice Clarett, who was himself guilty of violations and expelled from the team, that only one minor infraction by an individual has been found so far and that was reported by Ohio State, and that all judgement should be withheld until the investigation is complete.

A comment such as this does not threaten Herbstreit's job in any way. It used to just be called "good journalism".
 
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Good God....

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Why does every Ohio State fan HAVE to be a homer? Objectivity. That's all I ask from Herbie. Yes, he's said some things I disagree with. I'm still not calling the alumni association and asking that he be removed from the rolls. Do you think Trev gets this raked over the coals when he picks OU over Nebby? How about Mark May, do you think the Panther faithful are up in arms every time that jackass speaks and especially if he chooses, say, UConn or some shit Big Least school over Pitt?
Grow the fuck up.
 
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ysubuck said:
This was great.
On the afternoon show today, Herbie said that he was embarassed after Andy Geiger "did us a favor" and came on with Tirico.

Said that Mark and Trev showed "no class" in their commentary on Coach Tressel and Andy Geiger. Also said that he can't wait to "say hello" to Mark and Trev when he sees them tomorrow in Florida.

He said that he wanted to publicly apologize to Ohio State and Andy Geiger and that he was embarassed for ESPN after seeing/hearing how Mark and Trev acted during the halftime show and before and after the game.

Thought it showed a lot of class.
Wow, I am both glad and sad to hear more comments being made about Herbie. There are some of you .....(you know who you are) that have been pr oven wrong (HE HE HE) anyway...I have moved on and now that there is obvious alot of people that agreed with me, I hope that there can be some closure to Herbies problems with a lot of Buckeye fans. Herbie has tried to make amends with the University by apologizing and defending AG. So despite what he said in the past against this program and to recruit blue chippers, I believe that almost any person can be given a second chance and Herbie is no exception. After all he is now showing the fans that has made a true effort by apologizing, and I for one respect him for that.
 
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People need to understand that blind loyalty to tOSU looks about as intelligent as Bowden's overeager rants about Auburn. Herbie has been really loyal to tOSU, and is not obligated to come forth and do anything. He has to bite his lip tons of times and speak within the constraints placed on him by ESPiN. I'm sure he enjoys his job, but he has to watch what he says about tons of topics, not just tOSU.
He speaks his mind regularly on the radio, because he is given the chance to do so. Radio analysis is much better because they are not censored and instructed as much, whereas TV analysts are allowed to offer up their opinion if it fits with the show's agenda. And it might not even be that ESPiN necessarily agrees with their agenda, but they realize its the best way to earn ratings. That's what it boils down to.

I just wish people would stop writing people off as not being buckeyes anymore: Herbstreit, Smith, Cooper (who I never really liked, but I will not try to remove his buckeye title).

Anyway even if someone makes a mistake, they are still a buckeye. You don't stop calling a Glenville player a Tarblooder if he goes out and gets a DUI. You may not be happy with him, and he may have to repair his reputation, but he's still a Tarblooder.
 
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Penguin-BUCK said:
Wow, I am both glad and sad to hear more comments being made about Herbie. There are some of you .....(you know who you are) that have been pr oven wrong (HE HE HE) anyway...I have moved on and now that there is obvious alot of people that agreed with me, I hope that there can be some closure to Herbies problems with a lot of Buckeye fans. Herbie has tried to make amends with the University by apologizing and defending AG. So despite what he said in the past against this program and to recruit blue chippers, I believe that almost any person can be given a second chance and Herbie is no exception. After all he is now showing the fans that has made a true effort by apologizing, and I for one respect him for that.
He's not apologizing for things he said. He's apologizing for others who should be apologizing for themselves. If anyone should be apologizing over Kirk's quotes, it should be those of you who twist his words to mean something worse than what they were.

For some reason, a few people that like to call themselves Buckeye fans, think that bashing Kirk somehow helps this situation. You all have a sick, pathetic need to hurt someone and since Kirk has a connection to ESPN AND to the University, you all want to make him suffer. How juvenile!

Find a new scapegoat...Your act has become really tiresome.
 
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