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muffler dragon said:
I'm not of the mindset that Bo was fired solely because of his personality. 10 win seasons are still going to be the minimum bar set. If Riley doesn't elevate UNL above where Bo had it, then I don't think he'll get 7 years to show it. HuskerNation doesn't sell out every home game for an average product.
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I used 8 as an arbitrary number. And he could easily only lose 2 games next year and 3 the next. And yeah Husker nation will show up for any products, they're in Lincoln, NE, let's not act like its South Beach, LA, Austin, or any other metrotropolitan city with something else to do on Saturdays in the fall. 8+ wins a year and an occasional Big 10 west title, and Husker nation won't say a word
 
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Saw31 said:
Jesus I hated the 90s Husker teams, but I'd love to see them go back to those offenses just to see if you could still succeed. I'm guessing 'no', buy my God what impressive teams.

I like Riley. Is he the answer? I don't know. Does he play defense? Because Urban is gonna play offense and defense. And fuck Bucky.
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If GTECH can win with their system, Nebraska could still win with Osborne's system. The only difficulty I can see is that few high schools run the option, so finding a QB with those almost instinctive skills would be tough.
I also like Riley, I think that he will be an upgrade. I'd rather have him at the helm than Harbaugh.
 
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Crump's brother said:
If GTECH can win with their system, Nebraska could still win with Osborne's system. The only difficulty I can see is that few high schools run the option, so finding a QB with those almost instinctive skills would be tough.
I also like Riley, I think that he will be an upgrade. I'd rather have him at the helm than Harbaugh.
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GT hasn't exactly been winning a whole lot. Prior to this year's surprising 11-3 record, they had gone 28-25 the previous four seasons, and just 19-13 against a very weak ACC.
 
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Crump's brother said:
You're right, I mean your numbers certainly don't lie. I probably should have said Navy. Either way, Nebraska could make it work.
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Yeah, it's a niche offense now. Navy has had a decent amount of success with it, as has GT here-and-there. But on a big stage, I just don't see it really being able to provide any kind of sustained success anymore.

I've beaten this horse to death, but I just don't see how the Nebraska program can ever approach what they were. Yes, they are a CFB "blue blood", but the game has changed so much since they were winning titles. Their location leaves them at a huge recruiting disadvantage, and they aren't going to attract a lot of blue-chip recruits based on their history, as today's recruits were in diapers when they were a dominant force.

I get why Bo had to go. There were other contributing factors than just his W-L record, IMO. But they type of success he brought is kind of their ceiling now, IMO. 9 wins a year, and hope to occasionally make a run at a B1G title when the stars align.
 
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NFBuck said:
Yeah, it's a niche offense now. Navy has had a decent amount of success with it, as has GT here-and-there. But on a big stage, I just don't see it really being able to provide any kind of sustained success anymore.

I've beaten this horse to death, but I just don't see how the Nebraska program can ever approach what they were. Yes, they are a CFB "blue blood", but the game has changed so much since they were winning titles. Their location leaves them at a huge recruiting disadvantage, and they aren't going to attract a lot of blue-chip recruits based on their history, as today's recruits were in diapers when they were a dominant force.

I get why Bo had to go. There were other contributing factors than just his W-L record, IMO. But they type of success he brought is kind of their ceiling now, IMO. 9 wins a year, and hope to occasionally make a run at a B1G title when the stars align.
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Paragraphs two and three, change Nebraska to Michigan, Bo to Lloyd.
 
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NFBuck said:
Yeah, it's a niche offense now. Navy has had a decent amount of success with it, as has GT here-and-there. But on a big stage, I just don't see it really being able to provide any kind of sustained success anymore.

I've beaten this horse to death, but I just don't see how the Nebraska program can ever approach what they were. Yes, they are a CFB "blue blood", but the game has changed so much since they were winning titles. Their location leaves them at a huge recruiting disadvantage, and they aren't going to attract a lot of blue-chip recruits based on their history, as today's recruits were in diapers when they were a dominant force.

I get why Bo had to go. There were other contributing factors than just his W-L record, IMO. But they type of success he brought is kind of their ceiling now, IMO. 9 wins a year, and hope to occasionally make a run at a B1G title when the stars align.
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Exactly what I've been saying. Location works majorly against them, and tradition does them no favors. At least the teams who have past success, have a little better regions to recruit(Texas, Miami, USC, Tenn, LSU, etc). Bo and Solich used the west coast to their advantage(something Riley can draw from) as well as using Ohio and the Midwest as recruiting draws. Nebraska will need nothing short of a miracle to even get them into a final 4, and Riley isn't the coach to do it, IMO. Riley is a decent coach, but is not an upgrade over Bo coaching wise, IMO also.
 
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NFBuck said:
Yeah, it's a niche offense now. Navy has had a decent amount of success with it, as has GT here-and-there. But on a big stage, I just don't see it really being able to provide any kind of sustained success anymore.

I've beaten this horse to death, but I just don't see how the Nebraska program can ever approach what they were. Yes, they are a CFB "blue blood", but the game has changed so much since they were winning titles. Their location leaves them at a huge recruiting disadvantage, and they aren't going to attract a lot of blue-chip recruits based on their history, as today's recruits were in diapers when they were a dominant force.

I get why Bo had to go. There were other contributing factors than just his W-L record, IMO. But they type of success he brought is kind of their ceiling now, IMO. 9 wins a year, and hope to occasionally make a run at a B1G title when the stars align.
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They needed to stumble into a great head coach. When Tressel came up, I thought that he would be their best chance at getting back to where they want to be. Riley just seems like another guy who will do just enough to not get fired a la Ferentz and some of these other B10 coaches. He's not a tremendous recruiter, not especially innovative, and hasn't ever taken his team to a bowl game of any significance. It's not like the coaching pool was great this time around, but it seems like Oregon State is the one who lucked out.

I'm not as down on Nebraska, I think they are a sleeping giant. Yea, their geography is not great, but IMO Pelini was the one holding them back from better recruiting classes. Regardless, go back and look at all the spectacular meltdowns his Husker teams have had against average and mediocre teams. A more level headed and grounded coach of equal caliber would have pulled out a conference championship or two in his place, and after each one the sports media would go nuts with "OMG Nebraska is back!!!" The big ten basically handed Bo one in 2012 and instead he managed to get annihilated by a team that was .500 in conference. Geography was not the problem, but I don't think Riley is the solution either.
 
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woofermazing said:
They needed to stumble into a great head coach. When Tressel came up, I thought that he would be their best chance at getting back to where they want to be. Riley just seems like another guy who will do just enough to not get fired a la Ferentz and some of these other B10 coaches. He's not a tremendous recruiter, not especially innovative, and hasn't ever taken his team to a bowl game of any significance. It's not like the coaching pool was great this time around, but it seems like Oregon State is the one who lucked out.

I'm not as down on Nebraska, I think they are a sleeping giant. Yea, their geography is not great, but IMO Pelini was the one holding them back from better recruiting classes. Regardless, go back and look at all the spectacular meltdowns his Husker teams have had against average and mediocre teams. A more level headed and grounded coach of equal caliber would have pulled out a conference championship or two in his place, and after each one the sports media would go nuts with "OMG Nebraska is back!!!" The big ten basically handed Bo one in 2012 and instead he managed to get annihilated by a team that was .500 in conference. Geography was not the problem, but I don't think Riley is the solution either.
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2012 should've been an asterisk year for the Big 10, I couldnt take the Big 10 winner serious since OSU went undefeated and couldn't compete in the post season. Bo actually did a pretty good job recruiting wise. It'll be hard to lure any top tier coaches to Nebraska because all of what's been already stated(bad recruiting region, crazy fan base looking for past lore, etc). I agree with your entire first paragraph. But I do think due to Riley's demeanor and ability to be good enough, he can have a long career a la Ferentz in Lincoln. If Bo didn't act like such an assclown to the admin and fans, he'd still have a job in Lincoln, which is still baffling given the way he was embarrassed by OSU in 2012 and then Wisky the last 2yrs
 
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