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Notre Dame (football only discussion)



What a disappointing loss for Notre Dame. Just goes to sheaux how critical Coach Brian Kelly was to that program. I'm sure Marcus Freeman will do a fine job in South Bend, but CBK always preaches the importance of alignment in a well-functioning organization. It was clear today that Notre Dame was NOT in alignment without him!

I couldn't be more proud to have Brian Kelly as the face of the LSU program.

GEAUX TIGERS!
 
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He loses his first two and they'll be saying it
Lmaooo that’ll be the nicest things those fuckin’ cops say if that happens.

ND is in a predicament with Freeman at HC. If he doesn't produce early, and the fans call for his job in say year 2, will the Admin want to go through with firing another African American HC before his 5yr contract is up? Or for the sake of cultural outlook, does he get the full 5yr contract regardless of record? I hope he finds success at ND(though not too much because I think they're as smug as the fuckers Up North), but he's going to have quite the battle when he's already being compared to the previous AA HC, solely because of their color. Black HCs in rural towns is a tough job, and the job is even tougher when you work for a blueblood program stuck in past glory like ND.
 
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ND is in a predicament with Freeman at HC. If he doesn't produce early, and the fans call for his job in say year 2, will the Admin want to go through with firing another African American HC before his 5yr contract is up? Or for the sake of cultural outlook, does he get the full 5yr contract regardless of record? I hope he finds success at ND(though not too much because I think they're as smug as the fuckers Up North), but he's going to have quite the battle when he's already being compared to the previous AA HC, solely because of their color. Black HCs in rural towns is a tough job, and the job is even tougher when you work for a blueblood program stuck in past glory like ND.

I wasn't going to say anything about it when he was hired but yes, if he gets off to a bad start, or otherwise proves to be in over his head-which is entirely possible with any first time HC in a job like that, then the, shall we say, cultural issues will add some complexity.

They fired Willingham a lot faster than they fired Weis.

Just sayin.
 
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I wasn't going to say anything about it when he was hired but yes, if he gets off to a bad start, or otherwise proves to be in over his head-which is entirely possible with any first time HC in a job like that, then the, shall we say, cultural issues will add some complexity.

They fired Willingham a lot faster than they fired Weis.

Just sayin.
I’ve been sitting on a similar thought.
 
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I wasn't going to say anything about it when he was hired but yes, if he gets off to a bad start, or otherwise proves to be in over his head-which is entirely possible with any first time HC in a job like that, then the, shall we say, cultural issues will add some complexity.

They fired Willingham a lot faster than they fired Weis.

Just sayin.

Especially since ND gave Weis a 10yr extension only 7gms into his 1st year, yet Willingham started 8-0 and the 1st ND HC to ever get 10 wins in his 1st season, and still had skeptics...
 
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We'll check back with you on this after he kills again.

I completely agree mon ami!

Even though some critics (mostly those in the national media who are bitter that LSU poached CBK from Notre Dame) are saying that he is a "bad cultural fit" at LSU, I wholeheartedly believe, just like you, that he is going to "kill" it here just like he "killed" it at Notre Dame (he's the all-time winningest coach at Notre Dame, even more than Knute Rockne and Lou Holtz).

CBK's Northeastern organization and drive, mixed with the midwestern grit and humility he picked up at GV State, CMU, Cincinnati and Notre Dame, and the Louisiana talent pool that he can cherry pick, is the recipe for big time success in this modern college football landscape. A recipe that's as innovative, unique, and delicious as tomato quinoa gumbo!

Laissez les bons temps rouler!
 
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I completely agree mon ami!

Even though some critics (mostly those in the national media who are bitter that LSU poached CBK from Notre Dame) are saying that he is a "bad cultural fit" at LSU, I wholeheartedly believe, just like you, that he is going to "kill" it here just like he "killed" it at Notre Dame (he's the all-time winningest coach at Notre Dame, even more than Knute Rockne and Lou Holtz).

CBK's Northeastern organization and drive, mixed with the midwestern grit and humility he picked up at GV State, CMU, Cincinnati and Notre Dame, and the Louisiana talent pool that he can cherry pick, is the recipe for big time success in this modern college football landscape. A recipe that's as innovative, unique, and delicious as tomato quinoa gumbo!

Laissez les bons temps rouler!
Tell it to Declan Sullivan and Lizzy Seeberg
 
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I completely agree mon ami!

Even though some critics (mostly those in the national media who are bitter that LSU poached CBK from Notre Dame) are saying that he is a "bad cultural fit" at LSU, I wholeheartedly believe, just like you, that he is going to "kill" it here just like he "killed" it at Notre Dame (he's the all-time winningest coach at Notre Dame, even more than Knute Rockne and Lou Holtz).

CBK's Northeastern organization and drive, mixed with the midwestern grit and humility he picked up at GV State, CMU, Cincinnati and Notre Dame, and the Louisiana talent pool that he can cherry pick, is the recipe for big time success in this modern college football landscape. A recipe that's as innovative, unique, and delicious as tomato quinoa gumbo!

Laissez les bons temps rouler!
Having more wins than a guy who stopped being ND’s head coach because he was killed in a plane crash at age 43, in an era when teams played only 9 or 10 games a year, is quite an accomplishment. Obviously Kelly, with no national titles, has had a better coaching career than Rockne, who won his second and third titles back-to-back just prior to his untimely death in 1931.
 
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ND is in a predicament with Freeman at HC. If he doesn't produce early, and the fans call for his job in say year 2, will the Admin want to go through with firing another African American HC before his 5yr contract is up? Or for the sake of cultural outlook, does he get the full 5yr contract regardless of record? I hope he finds success at ND(though not too much because I think they're as smug as the fuckers Up North), but he's going to have quite the battle when he's already being compared to the previous AA HC, solely because of their color. Black HCs in rural towns is a tough job, and the job is even tougher when you work for a blueblood program stuck in past glory like ND.
ND is one of the biggest jobs in CFB. They will never again be on the level of the Bammers and tOSUs and Clemsons, etc...but that remains the expectation. Every HC there stands in the shadows of Rockne, Leahy, Parseghian and Holtz and those are the expectations. Expecting a guy to jump in with zero experience leading a program, let alone one with those kind of expectations is crazy. Look at the last 3 first time HCs they've hired:

Weis: Actually fared reasonably well his first 2 seasons after inheriting a decent amount of talent and installing an NFL system. As his players began overtaking the roster, they fell off a cliff. Lasted 5 years, going 35-27 (19-6 his first 2).

Davie: Took over a program that was declining in Holtz's last few years. Was inconsistent, going 7-6, 9-3, 5-7, 9-3 and 5-6. Ended up 35-25 in 5 seasons.

Faust: This one was a head scratcher. Faust had never coached at the college level. He was a Cincinnati HS legend at Moeller. ND figured that would translate to college. It did not. Went 35-26-1 over 5 seasons and never finished better than 7-5. His teams were regularly crushed by name programs, most infamously by Jimmy Johnson's Hurricanes in his last game.

Interestingly, all 5 of those guys got exactly 5 seasons and finished with very similar records. Weis and Davie had extensive careers as assistants. Moeller never coached in college, but did have 19 years as a HC in HS. All 3 were overwhelmed. Marcus has 10 years as an assistant. He has his work cut out for him.
 
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