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QB Kirk Herbstreit (Frosted Quips)

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twoodbuck97;1856940; said:
Herbie is more of a Buckeye than anybody on here. People are ridiculous on here sometimes. I've never heard Herbie outright put down a Buckeye. Most of the stuff he said about Pryor is pretty much true. Kid needs to mature and he admitted it his self.
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I've been a Herbie supporter, but it's getting pretty difficult. His comments about Pryor are fine.. unnecessary, probably, but nothing really out of line. Him mentioning Brewster in the tattoo 5 is out of line and he should either apologize or at the very least correct his mistake.

Dropping us after beating a top-tier SEC team is just ridiculous, and no matter who did it would be getting crucified. But it just happens to be the guy who has talked negatively about the program more than anyone outside of Mark May. And that guy graduated from here.

It all smells a little fishy. He's a Buckeye, but he's putting his job ahead of that (understandably, that's a hell of a gig, as much as many probably don't want to admit it). Calling Buckeye fans ridiculous for being upset at Herbie is pretty lame though, he's done more than enough to get some criticism from Buckeye nation.
 
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twoodbuck97;1856940; said:
Herbie is more of a Buckeye than anybody on here. People are ridiculous on here sometimes. I've never heard Herbie outright put down a Buckeye. Most of the stuff he said about Pryor is pretty much true. Kid needs to mature and he admitted it his self.
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He did "out" three innocent football players in Mike Brewster, Chris Fields and Jordan Hall during the Las Vegas Bowl broadcast as being part of the tattoo incident, and never clarified his statement.

But I believe he got his information from SportsbyBrooks or WSYX (ABC 6) and just ran with it.

Irresponsible journalism, but he's not a journalist. He's Bobby the Brain Heenan (performer).
 
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Cinci so many words to say nothing at all. Your argument you made proved nothing at all you went on to say that OSU should be penalized for the Big10 appearing weak in the bowl season yet then go on to pump up the SEC which while OSU beat a team from the SEC. You cannot be a proponent of both and stand on your argument. To say OSU you should drop cause the Big10 couldn't come through while the SEC came through and should be rewarded leads you to a lovely contradiction.
 
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dragurd;1856951; said:
Cinci so many words to say nothing at all. Your argument you made proved nothing at all you went on to say that OSU should be penalized for the Big10 appearing weak in the bowl season yet then go on to pump up the SEC which while OSU beat a team from the SEC. You cannot be a proponent of both and stand on your argument. To say OSU you should drop cause the Big10 couldn't come through while the SEC came through and should be rewarded leads you to a lovely contradiction.
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That's not at all what he did. Not in any way, shape or form.

I agree with cinci, but I still call bullshit on dropping 6 to 9. That's reasonable, right?
 
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He argued that point there as a justification OSU could of have dropped. By doing so he invites a contradiction upon himself that if the Big10 was weak and SEC is strong you cannot have OSU drop if the SEC is strong yet you drop them if the Big10 is weak. Thereby he just created a contradiction in which he doesn't drop and drops OSU at the same time which is certainly impossible.
 
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dragurd;1856956; said:
He argued that point there as a justification OSU could of have dropped. By doing so he invites a contradiction upon himself that if the Big10 was weak and SEC is strong you cannot have OSU drop if the SEC is strong yet you drop them if the Big10 is weak. Thereby he just created a contradiction in which he doesn't drop and drops OSU at the same time which is certainly impossible.
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cincibuck;1856942; said:
Because the rest of the Big 10 champions did not come through.

You guys love to knock the Big East, Pac 10, Big 12, ACC teams and talk about the loose rules that govern the SEC, their academic standards and their arrogant conference wide pride -- I do too.

But then you also want to crap on Michigan and the rest of the Big 10 and diminish them in terms of what they accomplish and when their failures fail to float Ohio State's status at the end of the season you want to blame it on Herbie and the talking heads at ESPN.

That's bullshit, pure and simple.

And during that discussion of how Ohio State slipped despite a "mighty victory" I somehow end up being "the contrarian."

How about this: You/I, as Buckeye fans, have to have the Bucks come through -- and the last two years they did -- but that has to be accompanied by a strong showing by the rest of the Big 10 top tier.

So I grant you that the Buckeyes upheld their end of the bargain, but the rest of the conference laid a rotten egg this year.

It's simple: The Bucks need conference strength to lend validity to what the Bucks do between September and January. The top tier of the Big 10, minus the Bucks failed to come through. What else are NATIONAL reporters supposed to think?

BTW, that's why I'm always on here suggesting that if the BCS series is going to determine the EOY rankings, then those games need to be "geographically neutral" - a concept the bobble heads in charge of the Big 10 seem to ignore. Witness, no night games in November and our CCG will be played in a building better suited to basketball, rodeos and tractor pulls than football.

SEC!,SEC!, SEC! is not as stupid as many of you seem to think it is. It is an acknowledgement by the collective schools of the fact that any conference team in an OOC/bowl game REPRESENTS the conference.

A Michigan/Illinois/Iowa/MSU/Wisconisn win only adds luster to what the Bucks achieve.

I can't tell you how pissed I am that Wiscy played a miserable game, or that the two Michigan's shit the sheets -- but if you're a national observer -- as opposed to an Ohio State observer -- you have to take conference performance into consideration -- and if a bogus TCU, BSU, BYU team beats your top tier teams then you have to live with the reality that the polls will reflect that. (go back and look at YOUR reactions to Michigan's losses to App State and Toledo)

Auburn, Alabama & LSU came through while Wisconsin lost to a non BCS team, Michigan State got knocked into the MAC and Michigan played like they wanted to see their coach get fired.

Oh, and with less than two minutes to go and the ball in Arkansas hands on the on the OSU 20 which team did you think was going to win the Sugar Bowl?

The way the Bucks went into a shell and let an 18 point lead melt away, almost to the point of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, did not elevate their status.

The performance of the rest of the top tier of the conference sealed the deal.

If I'm a contrarian so be it, but in my opinion only the most ardent, myopic supporter could propose anything otherwise.
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Can you post (In the BP final poll thread) what your personal final top-10 is for the 2010-11 season?
 
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twoodbuck97;1856940; said:
Herbie is more of a Buckeye than anybody on here. People are ridiculous on here sometimes. I've never heard Herbie outright put down a Buckeye. Most of the stuff he said about Pryor is pretty much true. Kid needs to mature and he admitted it his self.
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