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RB Erik Haw (official thread)

Oneshot said:
Psh, my question is: Why isnt there MORE hype??

This guy ran a 4.2!!!! TWICE!! and he is 210 lbs of lean muscle!!!!

That is beyond ridiculous. BEYOND ridiculous.
You've sold me Haw is going to be a monster :) - got to love the voice of a true believer. Like I say below though -- I want to see it with my own eyes.
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Now Eric Haw, he ran behind linemen that were smaller than him and Im not exagerating, and managed to get a lot of his yards on his own off of his instincts and speed, he also run with a low center of gravity.
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Compare and contrast -- the only negative spin I ever heard about Haw last year was that he was either a) having a harder time picking up schemes / timing than Pittman, or that b) he had some issues hitting the hole hard. Some theorists opined that based on one or other of these that Haw was red-shirted, while Pittman played.
Now above I have an eye witness report concerning how Haw made his own yards, some perhaps tough, some on speed. Plus stats on eye-popping speed in the backfield.
Seems to me that an intriguing parts of going to the Spring game is - how much and how well Haw plays.
We could be one back away from an absolutely awesome offense, one back...
 
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If he ran a 4.2 hand time,twice and that was with as he says ,"babyfat", how fast is he now? Would this make him as fast as Ginn? Does anyone really think this kid is as fast as Ginn? Is their any college player as fast as Ginn? I have to remain very skeptical! Common, Erik, prove me wrong!
 
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zincfinger said:
Look at a guy like Anthony Davis. Yeah, he's a speedster (not overly big), but what really made him tough to bring down was that he played low and had good patience and vision.

Anthony's no where near being big at 5-8 and 194 pounds, but he has tremendous balance which IMO is the greatest attribute for any athlete to have.
 
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Hey fiesta. Move your head, I can't see me.
 
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I think E. Haw just might stealing more and more carries this season from Pittman. Then again if we are going to pass more this season (taking advantage of all that WR talent) just how many carries a game will the RB spot get?
 
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Renard said:
I think E. Haw just might stealing more and more carries this season from Pittman. Then again if we are going to pass more this season (taking advantage of all that WR talent) just how many carries a game will the RB spot get?
Fear not - The answer to that question is plenty.

I hear Tressel say he would like a more explosive offense this year -- I would not mistake that for less balanced.
Tressel does, did and likely always will believe in the value of a good running game. And, even if the pass gets called a majority of plays in a drive, who's to say it couldn't be to a RB?
 
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sandgk said:
I hear Tressel say he would like a more explosive offense this year -- I would not mistake that for less balanced.
Tressel does, did and likely always will believe in the value of a good running game. And, even if the pass gets called a majority of plays in a drive, who's to say it couldn't be to a RB?
No doubt about that. Even with talk among fans about a more "wide-open" offense next season (and I think I've heard that talk before the season every year, at least since Tressel's been here), that's in comparison to an offense that has consistently called running plays 60% of the time; sometimes 70%. There's no way that ever drops below 50%, and even 50/50 would be a huge change, and frankly, somewhat surprising. Any back who shows he can consistently get it done is gonna get all the opportunities he can handle.
 
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sandgk said:
Fear not - The answer to that question is plenty.

I hear Tressel say he would like a more explosive offense this year -- I would not mistake that for less balanced.
Tressel does, did and likely always will believe in the value of a good running game. And, even if the pass gets called a majority of plays in a drive, who's to say it couldn't be to a RB?
Exactly... Tressel love to pound the ball and play special teams and then win with good defense, however this year with ginn and holmes on the outside and an improved offensive line I'm looking for a very balanced attack on offense

My gut feeling is that either Haw of Pittman will have a big breakout season this year with other teams focusing on ginn and holmes on the outside
 
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aurorabuckeye13 said:
My gut feeling is that either Haw of Pittman will have a big breakout season this year with other teams focusing on ginn and holmes on the outside
We barely have a pair and a spare next year. Both backs could have huge years

Here is the stats for our primary rushers last year-
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So let's say that these carries are now split between our two primary backs (I know Smith is still on the team but hopefully he doesn't HAVE to run as much). That means that each back will 187 carries based on last year's numbers. If the backs can maintain Pittman's average of 5.3 YPC than they will have 991 yards for the season. Perhaps the each get a gravy run or two to top 1000 yards.

I know this is a simplified arguement. Smith could still get lots of carries or more balls could go to the wide receivers. There is also a chance that the runs will be even more effective with the defense having to focus elsewhere. Drives might continue because we pick up first downs or just don't fumble. We even might have a big lead and run the ball to kill the clock.

I am looking for both primary backs to have a big year next year and at least two freshman backs (Wells & ?) to get double digit carries for the year.

Smithlabs
 
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Haw talks about the spring game

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Strong Second Half Key For Haw
By Steve Helwagen Managing Editor
Date: Apr 24, 2005

Redshirt freshman tailback Erik Haw made some believers with his play in the second half of Saturday's Scarlet and Gray Game. He had 79 of his 86 yards and a touchdown in the second half of the spring-ending scrimmage. Click here for more on the tailback spot.
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The play he remembers most is the hit on him by A.J. Hawk. He called it a welcome back to football hit and said it really woke him up.:biggrin:
Haw thinks he needs to improve his strength for the fall.​
(I was at the game near the field and I thought that Haw ran with determination and looked to run over some people as the game went on. He has definetly put on some size since last fall.)
 
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