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OSU_Buckguy;831682; said:
unfortunately, grad, you are as well wrong. it's right there in rule #2.
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Well, bro, I figured you would know by now that punctuation is like the rest of English...open to interpretation beyond a few basic rules.

Since your reply to Thump was the question itself, the quoted material does move into this rule: If a question is in quotation marks, the question mark should be placed inside the quotation marks.

However, for the question mark to definitely go outside of the quotes, it needed a concrete question instead of an implied:

Did you just say, "suppressant"?

All in interpretation and I can see where Thump has a leg to stand on in this one.
 
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osugrad21;831688; said:
Well, bro, I figured you would know by now that punctuation is like the rest of English...open to interpretation beyond a few basic rules.
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well, if thump is going to cite a rule, then i will cite a contradictory rule from the same page.
Since your reply to Thump was the question itself, the quoted material does move into this rule: If a question is in quotation marks, the question mark should be placed inside the quotation marks.
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again, just because there is a question does not necessarily mean that the question mark belongs inside the quotation mark. it's very simple. what i quoted of thump was not already a question. had thump's statement been a question, there may be an argument to be made. however, i still wouldn't have been quoting a question but instead a word. the question mark still wouldn't belong inside the quotation marks.
However, for the question mark to definitely go outside of the quotes, it needed a concrete question instead of an implied: Did you just say "suppressant"?
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adding words to complete the thought does not then mean that the question mark belongs outside the quotation marks. the meaning is the same, and the placement of the question mark does not depend on the construction of the sentence.
All in interpretation and I can see where Thump has a leg to stand on in this one.
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a man standing on only one leg can be tipped over easily.
 
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OSU_Buckguy;831697; said:
well, if thump is going to cite a rule, then i will cite a contradictory rule from the same page.
again, just because there is a question does not necessarily mean that the question mark belongs inside the quotation mark. it's very simple. what i quoted of thump was not already a question. had thump's statement been a question, there may be an argument to be made. however, i still wouldn't have been quoting a question but instead a word. the question mark still wouldn't belong inside the quotation marks.
adding words to complete the thought does not then mean that the question mark belongs outside the quotation marks. the meaning is the same, and the placement of the question mark does not depend on the construction of the sentence.
a man standing on only one leg can be tipped over easily.
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Did you major in Linguistics?

Man I'd hate to have you if you were a college professor, you'd be a ball-buster grading papers.
 
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Thump;831700; said:
Did you major in Linguistics? Man I'd hate to have you if you were a college professor, you'd be a ball-buster grading papers.
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:lol: but true.

i didn't major in linguistics, but one of my favorite classes was a psychology of linguistics class. as far as grading papers, i nearly threw up while performing peer reviews of papers in my english classes. the mistakes that i commonly saw were absolutely pitiful. pitiful.
 
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OSU_Buckguy;831697; said:
again, just because there is a question does not necessarily mean that the question mark belongs inside the quotation mark. it's very simple. what i quoted of thump was not already a question. had thump's statement been a question, there may be an argument to be made. however, i still wouldn't have been quoting a question but instead a word. the question mark still wouldn't belong inside the quotation marks.
adding words to complete the thought does not then mean that the question mark belongs outside the quotation marks. the meaning is the same, and the placement of the question mark does not depend on the construction of the sentence.
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Well, I'll just have to disagree on this one...I see Thump's interpretation as a valid one. He did not ask a question...but you did. You turned his statement into a question and since it is the only word there, it becomes the question itself. Therefore, I can see where either rule can apply there.


JWins said:
On BP, it's assumed that we're doing the talking without the use of quotation marks, so I disagree.
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If its assumed, then why use them in the original reply?
 
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OSU_Buckguy;831711; said:
i nearly threw up while performing peer reviews of papers in my english classes. the mistakes that i commonly saw were absolutely pitiful. pitiful.
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:slappy: :slappy:

I can imagine.

You think the shit you read here is bad, some peer reviews I did in college were just BRUTAL.

You went to school in New England right? Econ. major?
 
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