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2020 tOSU Recruiting Discussion

Discussion in 'Football Recruiting' started by ScriptOhio, Apr 24, 2018.

  1. TampaBuckeyes

    TampaBuckeyes Senior

    Can use early enrollees to count against the previous year, but there must be places for them in the previous years total. Just like greyshirts count against the next year. Allows you to go over 25 in a year, but over the long term averages to a max of 25 a year. Over time everyone has to sign a small class of 15-20 to stay under 85, freeing up space to go over 25 for the next 3-5 years. At least that is how I understand it.
     
  2. TampaBuckeyes

    TampaBuckeyes Senior

    It’s really Robinson, Ransom, Knighton and Kourt. Then all of the needs are covered and they can swing for guys like Ricks and Broughton for the last spot or two.
     
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  3. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    Knew I left someone out...

    2 spots though which means we can go all out on Ricks.
     
  4. BTSBuckeye

    BTSBuckeye Sophmore

    I feel like the last 2 spots would be best served at CB and DL to really round out the class on defense.
     
  5. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    A TURNAROUND ON DEFENSE THIS FALL SHOULD PAY BIG DIVIDENDS DURING NEXT YEAR'S RECRUITING CYCLE

    A year after Ohio State's offense erupted under the direction of now-head coach Ryan Day, many of the nation's top offensive recruits are planning to make Columbus, Ohio their home during their collegiate careers.

    Earlier this week, Eleven Warriors' own Colin Hass-Hill summarized the wave of talented prospects lining up to play in Day's offense.

    There's 5-star wide receiver Julian Fleming and high 4-stars Jack Miller (quarterback), Mookie Cooper, Gee Scott Jr., Jaxon Smith-Njigba (wide receivers) for the 2020 class. Up front, the Buckeyes have some cornerstone pieces in 5-star tackle Paris Johnson Jr. and 4-star center Luke Wypler. And looking forward even further, 4-stars Ben Christman (offensive tackle) Kyle McCord (quarterback) and Jayden Ballard (receiver) are already in the fold for 2021.

    With 5-star running back Bijan Robinson trending Ohio State's way, according to 247 Sports' Crystal Ball predictions, Day is on pace to sign an offensive haul that rivals anything his predecessor put together.

    It's a simple case of on-field results creating momentum on the recruiting front.

    That's what Ohio State's 2019 defense will try and achieve this fall.

    That kind of momentum doesn't exist with defensive prospects for several reasons. For starters, the Buckeyes' defensive staff was almost completely (and rightfully) overhauled when Day took over. New co-defensive coordinators Greg Mattison and Jeff Haffley, along with several new position coaches, just started recruiting 2020 defenders for Ohio State this year, which put them behind the ball.

    There's also the fact that Ohio State's defense will be a new product this fall. If you're a top-flight defender, it has to be difficult to commit to something you haven't seen with your own eyes just yet.

    But primarily, the memories of the Buckeyes' disastrous 2018 defense are fresh.

    Last fall, Greg Schiano's unit ranked a dismal 72nd nationally in total defense, 51st in scoring defense and surrendered the longest rushing and passing touchdowns in school history. The unit was gashed on a nearly weekly basis and gave up an average of 43.6 points to Oregon State, Purdue and Maryland.

    Combining all those factors puts Ohio State's slow recruiting start (on the defensive side) into perspective.

    When the Buckeyes entered the month of June, they had just one defensive prospect committed to their 2020 class in 4-star safety Lejond Cavazos. The defensive staff gained their bearings a bit over the last two months, adding six defenders to the mix, highlighted by high 4-star cornerback Clark Phillips and defensive tackle Darrion Henry.

    The staff will continue to work hard to close out 2020 strong, but the best thing they can do is turn things around on the field this fall. If Hafley and Mattison improve the Buckeyes' defense, even as marginally as effective as Day did the offense during his time as offensive coordinator, then blue-chip defenders should start considering Ohio State more seriously.

    Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2019/07/105241/a-turnaround-on-defense-this-fall-should-pay-big-dividends-during-next-years-recruiting-cycle
     
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  6. Tanner

    Tanner Senior

    Why doesn't 24/7 do a better job of updating their 'roster outlook' at the different position groups? Antonio Williams is still listed at RB for us. Blue Smith still listed at WR.
     
  7. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    I don't believe they keep that current after signing day.
     
  8. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    Sooo today Birm has a different take on the 25 man class hard cap:

     
  9. BTSBuckeye

    BTSBuckeye Sophmore

  10. TooTallMenardo

    TooTallMenardo Don’t you even think about throwing the ball. '17 Bowl Pick Em Champ

    I mean, if teams are going to blatantly disregard the rule, it’s probably not a good look to have said rule in place if you don’t plan to enforce it.
     
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  11. RB07OSU

    RB07OSU #7 aka Vick the human joystick Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    I'm in the same boat. If we get both Knighton and Robinson, then you can call this offensive class good and try to bolster the defense unless the staff is dead set on bringing in another QB (which I am not against really, the depth there is scary even when Miller gets into town). You add Knighton and Robinson, and that is the best offensive class we have ever had on paper. And the defensive class is coming together nicely overall, particularly at DB, but would love to see a stud DL get added. And if we add Kourt (which I firmly believe we will), a LB class of Simon, Kourt and Melton would be killer. Broughton is a long-shot (also cloudy enough to be intrigued), but man I would love it if he was the wildcard DL towards the end.
     
  12. RB07OSU

    RB07OSU #7 aka Vick the human joystick Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    On a side note - It's been 3 whole days since we've had a commitment. What is this staff doing?! :panic::panic::panic:
     
  13. CFPBuckeye

    CFPBuckeye Turned down a Harbaugh sleepover '17 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    Anti-MOB movin’
     
  14. pnuts34

    pnuts34 Drunk off of wolverine tears

    Fire Fick, er... Fire Day
     
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  15. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

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