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WVU/Big East

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I would certainly take WVU, Cincy, South Florida and Rutgers over OSU, Illinois, Mich and Wisconsin.
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Apparently quality discussion is not in the cards with you. Actually backing up your opinion with some reasoning would be a good start.

Like I said, WVU & OSU are irrelevant to this discussion. They don't play each other when it counts.
For instance, at the height of their hype, beating WVU, USF's offense continued to show rampant inconsistency and mistakes.
USF & PSU feature strong D & very inconsistent O. Similar athleticism on D (still edge PSU), better athletes for PSU's O (esp wideout) but Morelli usually cancels out that advantage.
Rutgers & Wisconsin are both living on their accomplishments last year, and little more. There are easily a half-dozen legit NFL prospects on Wisky's team, how many for rutgers?
Cincinnati is somewhat similar to ILL, pretty strong D, dangerous spread attack, with a decided edge athletically to ILL. They gave #1 Mizzou all they could handle.
Purdue & Louisville can score in bunches on O, and let teams run wild on D.
I'd put Pitt & Iowa on a similar level, with a coaching edge to Iowa.
Syracuse & Minny are both hideous.

That leaves UM & MSU, both of which are solid ballclubs.

Either way, the big east appears to be a bunch of afterthoughts beyond WVU. Usually Louisville helps improve the conference's credibility, but then so does UM/Wisc/PSU on normal occasions.
 
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acrolite;1006616; said:
No, those statements on this board (and in conversations I've had with folks in Columbus) are used in the same breath as "Why is WVU ranked higher than us...?"

Which, of course, implies that they're talking about this year.

Why is WVU ranked higher than OSU? Because, as weak as their non-conf schedule might be perceived to be by some, it's still better than OSU's.
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OK fine lets see why someone might make a statement like that.

SOS: Projected from Tellshow WVU #39 OSU #48: Edge WVU
Worst Loss: BCS #15 Illinois or # 21 USF: Edge OSU
Best Win: BCS #18 Wisconsin or # 23 UC: Edge OSU

Quit with the indignant outrage, an unbiased observer could make the case for OSU over WVU easily. Like someone else said, its the timing of the loss.
 
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Big 10 and Big East fans are not playing, their teams are. I know OSU has great tradition and access to the best players. However, WVU has a great program, and teams like WVU (regardless of what conference) will always have competitive teams from time to time. And these teams will prove to be better than some if not all of the normal power football programs. Tradition and what all of the teams did last year means nothing if you can't get to, or win the title game. I respect all programs and the Mountaineers will get to the title game. Hopefully, as a WVU fan, they will win or at least leave it on the field with no regrets either way. As for the Mountaineer's, they are deserving and so is the team they must play. Conference bashing may be fun, but the true champion will be crowned on the field. I can't predict WVU will win, but I can guarantee you the best two teams of 2007 will play regardless of what is said by the teams who fell short.
 
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wvu;1006846; said:
... I can guarantee you the best two teams of 2007 will play regardless of what is said by the teams who fell short.
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Please ignore this bit people.

This will drag us down into another semantics rat-hole.

If you define the two best teams as the two teams that make it to the Title Game, then this statement can't be wrong.

Of course, there is no other definition of the term "two best teams" by which anyone could make something like a "guarantee" on; but like I said, let's not argue semantics.
 
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