Have to get the youth football thread away from the Jacko Thread. I don't what Jacko anywhere near youth. :p
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NightmaresDad
Woody Rules!
I'm in total shock - our season is over.
Watching our performance today was like watching a train wreck in super-slow motion. Our kids were totally intimidated and were beat before the game even started. Even Nightmare only played to about 50% of his normal level.
he had our only 2 TDs and 100-and-some-odd yards, but got absolutely NO help on offense. (I don't have stats for the game because I broke my clipboard and pen by smashing it over my knee during the other team's initial drive) Actually, our QB had a couple of good runs - one set up the last TD.
On defense, we were basically playing defense with only 5 guys, as the other 6 tuned tail and fled or just stood around after the ball was snapped. Even Ronnie was retreating from some of the blockers, instead of attacking the point of attack lke usual.
We had about 1000 missed tackles - one of their guys, and I really take my hat off to him, was tiny - only about 40-something pounds (looked like a football helmet with feet!) and even he was breaking 2 and 3 tackles when he carried the ball.
We always faint whenever we play this team, and yesterday was no exception.
It's hard to remember sometimes that these kids are only first and second graders, and that one night they can hold their own and even outplay many third-grade teams (which we have done throughout this year in scrimmages) and other times they can play like it's the first practice of the season and they are all scared and don't know what the heck is going on.
In the end, we lose 19-13, and even though it's a bitter pill to swallow, we all learn from this season and look forward to the next one.
Watching our performance today was like watching a train wreck in super-slow motion. Our kids were totally intimidated and were beat before the game even started. Even Nightmare only played to about 50% of his normal level.
he had our only 2 TDs and 100-and-some-odd yards, but got absolutely NO help on offense. (I don't have stats for the game because I broke my clipboard and pen by smashing it over my knee during the other team's initial drive) Actually, our QB had a couple of good runs - one set up the last TD.
On defense, we were basically playing defense with only 5 guys, as the other 6 tuned tail and fled or just stood around after the ball was snapped. Even Ronnie was retreating from some of the blockers, instead of attacking the point of attack lke usual.
We had about 1000 missed tackles - one of their guys, and I really take my hat off to him, was tiny - only about 40-something pounds (looked like a football helmet with feet!) and even he was breaking 2 and 3 tackles when he carried the ball.
We always faint whenever we play this team, and yesterday was no exception.
It's hard to remember sometimes that these kids are only first and second graders, and that one night they can hold their own and even outplay many third-grade teams (which we have done throughout this year in scrimmages) and other times they can play like it's the first practice of the season and they are all scared and don't know what the heck is going on.
In the end, we lose 19-13, and even though it's a bitter pill to swallow, we all learn from this season and look forward to the next one.
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IronBuckI
Calmer than you are.
My nephew's team wrapped up first place with a 6-0 overtime win this week. He had eleven tackles and a sack, the sack coming in overtime. This was their second 6-0 overtime win of the season, and they are now 9-0 going into the final game, against a team that they should beat. This game was literally a defensive battle, unlike the penalty fest that was the cause of the first OT game they had. Our QB and two leading RB's combined for less than 70 yards rushing, and our best RB barely got inside the pylon on fourth and goal from the five, for the only score of the game. 9:00 AM on a Saturday morning is too early for that much drama.
Go Falcons! 2005 Wayne Peewee football champs! (7 and 8 year olds)
Go Falcons! 2005 Wayne Peewee football champs! (7 and 8 year olds)
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jimotis4heisman
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the reality is keep in mind for kids it should be a lot about having fun and fostering a love for football too.NightmaresDad said:
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NightmaresDad
Woody Rules!
that goes without saying - our kids have had a blast this year and we have had a blast with them. they learned alot about working hard and having it rewarded, as well. Every single one of them saw great improvement throughout the season, and none of them can wait until next year.
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NightmaresDad
Woody Rules!
Well, that last post I wrote about learning about hard work and how it gets rewarded - I found out today the real lesson this year is realizing that people cheat and that others will betray you.
It turns out that the team that beat us was using several ineligible players, plus they had kids on their bench that did not even play at all, and others that did not play enough plays, per league rules.
So, they have been "removed" from the tournament. so you would think that now we would take their place in the next round, right? NOT SO FAST, MY FRIEND!
The Board decision was that the team they would have played in the next round now gets a bye, and we are still out.
the WORST part, by far, though, is that the deciding vote was cast against us by our own organization's representative! Even though there were other people on the board who thought we should have been re-instated and playing, he voted for us not to be playing. He had already told our head coach that we didn't deserve to still be playing.
WTF?
To me, the hard decision was to disqualify the team that committed the infractions. They had to determine that the infractions were significant enough to influence the outcome. they are punishing a lot of little kids who were not directly responsible for these infractions, but if you aren't going to inforce the rules, why have them? I feel bad for the kids on that team.
However, once you have decided that, is it not a no-brainer to put the losing team in their place? Even if we were the worst team in the league, we should have been put back in. I don't understand the logic at all, other than there is a total lack of it.
sour grapes? You bet!
I really didn't want to post this on here because I didn't want to come off as a whiney bitch, but I have to get this off my chest. And this info is very reliable, as well. I don't get worked up over gossip.
I can't honestly fathom where this guy's head is at.
It turns out that the team that beat us was using several ineligible players, plus they had kids on their bench that did not even play at all, and others that did not play enough plays, per league rules.
So, they have been "removed" from the tournament. so you would think that now we would take their place in the next round, right? NOT SO FAST, MY FRIEND!
The Board decision was that the team they would have played in the next round now gets a bye, and we are still out.
the WORST part, by far, though, is that the deciding vote was cast against us by our own organization's representative! Even though there were other people on the board who thought we should have been re-instated and playing, he voted for us not to be playing. He had already told our head coach that we didn't deserve to still be playing.
WTF?
To me, the hard decision was to disqualify the team that committed the infractions. They had to determine that the infractions were significant enough to influence the outcome. they are punishing a lot of little kids who were not directly responsible for these infractions, but if you aren't going to inforce the rules, why have them? I feel bad for the kids on that team.
However, once you have decided that, is it not a no-brainer to put the losing team in their place? Even if we were the worst team in the league, we should have been put back in. I don't understand the logic at all, other than there is a total lack of it.
sour grapes? You bet!
I really didn't want to post this on here because I didn't want to come off as a whiney bitch, but I have to get this off my chest. And this info is very reliable, as well. I don't get worked up over gossip.
I can't honestly fathom where this guy's head is at.
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I was going to make a new thread with this post, but it would have gotten buried here anyway so I decided to just do it here. I'm sure just about nobody will read this, and that's a shame, because there are lessons to be learned for players, parents, and Coaches of "little kids." It's long and will probably bore you, but so what, I just have to type it out.
I posted many months back that my son was an OL for his Pee Wee team. He hates to run the ball and hates to tackle. He's happy right where he is. NO monster stats for Josh, he just quietly does his thing.
Josh plays for the "Rams" in the local Pee Wee league. They had a pretty good team last year, but this year was to be a rebuilding year. They started the season 0-1-2 but somehow rebounded to post a 4-2-3 record and make the playoffs, one of four teams to do so in a 10 team league. Their prize for doing so? They catch the "Vikings" in the first round of the playoffs which was yesterday. The Vikings were the defending "Super Bowl" Champs and went 8-0-1 this year. They beat our Rams 22-0 back on September 10th. To make matters worse that day, one of the Rams star players (John Y.) broke his arm the day of that game and showed up with his arm in a cast. That pretty much demoralized our kids from the get-go, and it showed in the final score.
All of last week my son was not feeling real confident about the game with the Vikings. Based on their first meeting, it was obvious why after the drubbing they took. This past week in NEO the weather was terrible, about 45 degrees and raining every day, yet the Rams coaches insisted on having these little guys practice in the cold and the wet until it was so dark you couldn't see your hand in front of your face. This group of kids love this stuff however, and you could just see their anticipation level rise with every minute they were on the field, with the Coaches putting into thier heads that THEY were the dangerous team, that THEY were improving every week and were a better team then when they played the Vikings 7 weeks ago. Rumor had it that the Vikings didn't practice at all last week.
The key to stopping the Vikings is to stop a kid named "Bam." "Bam" is 9 years old and can absulutely dominate this type of game. He's good for a few 50+ runs every game. He is a stud and will be a High School star in about 6-7 years. The Rams answer to "Bam" is a kid named Marcus. Marcus also seems to put up a 50+ TD run every week, is by far our MVP but is certainly not at the same caliber as "Bam."
Oh well, onto yesterday's playoff game we go. The game was a defensive struggle from the get-go. Pretty much traded punts back and forth and went to halftime at 0-0. The Coaches and the kids were psyched, they actually were playing even with the Vikings and knew that anything was possible.
The second half began with the Vikings getting the ball. (Posessions start at the 35). First play is "Bam" to the right for 10 yards. Second play is "Bam" Outside and down the sideline for a 55 yard TD run. Our kids hold on the 2-pointer, 6-0 Vikings.
For the rest of the 3rd quarter and well int the 4th, the Vikings hold our Rams to nothing. A few first downs but no serious threats. With 3:28 left in the game, the Vikings score again to make it 12-0, and amidst the chants of "Super-Bowl" from the parents of the Vikings players, our kids hold on to stop the 2-pointer, 12-0 Vikings.
Our kids "last gasp" at winning this game ended as fast as it started, as they fumbled on their first play, giving the Vikings the ball at the Rams 30 yard line with 3:20 left. Our kids did "sack-up" and held the Vikings on downs. The "punt" put the ball at the Rams 5 yard line with 1:58 left in the game.
The Rams tried to mount something to get out of the hole, but after 3 futile attempts they had a 4th and 6 from thir own 10 with 1:38 left. Somehow, Marcus managed to get outsiede to the left, down the sideline and toward the middle of the field. He was finally caught 65 yards later at the Vikings 25 yard line. We as parents were going crazy, only because we thought our kids had a real shot at not getting "shut out." Losing is one thing, but to be able to at least score would make things much better. The kids hustled up the field, got set pretty quick, and "John Y" took a handoff up the miidle 25 yards for the touchdown. (Yes, the same John with the broken arm, he is playing with a cast with a ton of padding on the outside.) Then, in a scene right out of "The Longest Yard" "Bam" cheapshots John a good 5 seconds after he crossed the goal line unscathed by burying his helmet into John's spine. John has the wind knocked out of him so bad that it took him about 1 minute before he could even catch his breath to cry. We as parents were irate, and the sideline taunts were getting pretty bad. We were yelling to the officials that "Bam" should be ejected and should be suspended from the "Super Bowl" next week (which is where the winner of this game would go). They did call a personal foul, giving our kids the ball at the 1, and our QB snuck in for the conversion making it 12-8 with 58 seconds left.
As we on the sidelines continued to bitch about what had happened, we watched as the kids took the field. The Vikings quickly took a knee on first down and the Rams used the second of their three time-outs, 54 seconds left. - The Vikings again took a knee on second down, our Coaches elected to let the clock run. The Vikings took the delay of game, 15 seconds left. Vikings had third down and 15 at the 30, ran a play to the left and gained about 5 yards, Rams used their last timeout. With a 4th and 10 at thier own 35, the Vikings for some reason decided to run a play rather than "punt" the ball to the Rams 30. They gained another 5 yards, and with 7 seconds left in the game turned the ball over to the Rams at the Vikings 40 yard line.
What's left is still a blur. The Rams Coach huddles the kids up and they get to the line of scrimmage. THEN, every player on offense runs about 15 yards to the left of the center.THEN he brings back a guard, the QB, and Marcus to where the ball is to be snapped. What you had was the center,right guard, QB, and Marcus lined up at the middle of the field and the entire rest of the team was lined up 15 yards to their left. The Coach was yelling at our kids to position them properly so they were all "proper." Rather than calling a timeout with all the confusion, the Vikings elected to play on. With 2 OL's to block 8 linemen, the Rams QB took the snap and quickly pitched left to Marcus. At that point, all the "misplaced" Rams players camed back to their right, and systematically picked off every Vikings defender with great blocks, springing Marcus around the left corner and down the sideline for a mind-boggling 40 yard TD run as time expired giving the Rams a 14-12 WIN.
The Vikings didn't go quietly, however. Loudmouth coaches who were willing to fitstfight the referees got their two cents in, one was actually "tossed" after the game was officially over.
Oh well, NOW it's Super Bowl week for us and I as a parent couldn't be prouder. Not just of what our kids accomplished, but proud of what all that cliche crap really means when it comes to fruition. Lesson wise:
#1. YOU NEVER GIVE UP!!! For God's sake, read what I just wrote
#2. Work hard. Rams practiced all week, Vikings didn't practice
#3. Play fair. After the personal foul on our kid, I looked at my dad and said "If there is any justice in this world, the Rams will score on this play (before the last play of the game).
#4. Coaches should always encourage. Our Coaches always scream and yell at our kids, things like "C'mom, You're a good player, Go get'em." Never put a kid down or embarrass a kid. I see enough of that every week.
Any way, that was way too much info about:
THE GREATEST GAME EVER PLAYED"
And by the way, it was. Peace.
I posted many months back that my son was an OL for his Pee Wee team. He hates to run the ball and hates to tackle. He's happy right where he is. NO monster stats for Josh, he just quietly does his thing.
Josh plays for the "Rams" in the local Pee Wee league. They had a pretty good team last year, but this year was to be a rebuilding year. They started the season 0-1-2 but somehow rebounded to post a 4-2-3 record and make the playoffs, one of four teams to do so in a 10 team league. Their prize for doing so? They catch the "Vikings" in the first round of the playoffs which was yesterday. The Vikings were the defending "Super Bowl" Champs and went 8-0-1 this year. They beat our Rams 22-0 back on September 10th. To make matters worse that day, one of the Rams star players (John Y.) broke his arm the day of that game and showed up with his arm in a cast. That pretty much demoralized our kids from the get-go, and it showed in the final score.
All of last week my son was not feeling real confident about the game with the Vikings. Based on their first meeting, it was obvious why after the drubbing they took. This past week in NEO the weather was terrible, about 45 degrees and raining every day, yet the Rams coaches insisted on having these little guys practice in the cold and the wet until it was so dark you couldn't see your hand in front of your face. This group of kids love this stuff however, and you could just see their anticipation level rise with every minute they were on the field, with the Coaches putting into thier heads that THEY were the dangerous team, that THEY were improving every week and were a better team then when they played the Vikings 7 weeks ago. Rumor had it that the Vikings didn't practice at all last week.
The key to stopping the Vikings is to stop a kid named "Bam." "Bam" is 9 years old and can absulutely dominate this type of game. He's good for a few 50+ runs every game. He is a stud and will be a High School star in about 6-7 years. The Rams answer to "Bam" is a kid named Marcus. Marcus also seems to put up a 50+ TD run every week, is by far our MVP but is certainly not at the same caliber as "Bam."
Oh well, onto yesterday's playoff game we go. The game was a defensive struggle from the get-go. Pretty much traded punts back and forth and went to halftime at 0-0. The Coaches and the kids were psyched, they actually were playing even with the Vikings and knew that anything was possible.
The second half began with the Vikings getting the ball. (Posessions start at the 35). First play is "Bam" to the right for 10 yards. Second play is "Bam" Outside and down the sideline for a 55 yard TD run. Our kids hold on the 2-pointer, 6-0 Vikings.
For the rest of the 3rd quarter and well int the 4th, the Vikings hold our Rams to nothing. A few first downs but no serious threats. With 3:28 left in the game, the Vikings score again to make it 12-0, and amidst the chants of "Super-Bowl" from the parents of the Vikings players, our kids hold on to stop the 2-pointer, 12-0 Vikings.
Our kids "last gasp" at winning this game ended as fast as it started, as they fumbled on their first play, giving the Vikings the ball at the Rams 30 yard line with 3:20 left. Our kids did "sack-up" and held the Vikings on downs. The "punt" put the ball at the Rams 5 yard line with 1:58 left in the game.
The Rams tried to mount something to get out of the hole, but after 3 futile attempts they had a 4th and 6 from thir own 10 with 1:38 left. Somehow, Marcus managed to get outsiede to the left, down the sideline and toward the middle of the field. He was finally caught 65 yards later at the Vikings 25 yard line. We as parents were going crazy, only because we thought our kids had a real shot at not getting "shut out." Losing is one thing, but to be able to at least score would make things much better. The kids hustled up the field, got set pretty quick, and "John Y" took a handoff up the miidle 25 yards for the touchdown. (Yes, the same John with the broken arm, he is playing with a cast with a ton of padding on the outside.) Then, in a scene right out of "The Longest Yard" "Bam" cheapshots John a good 5 seconds after he crossed the goal line unscathed by burying his helmet into John's spine. John has the wind knocked out of him so bad that it took him about 1 minute before he could even catch his breath to cry. We as parents were irate, and the sideline taunts were getting pretty bad. We were yelling to the officials that "Bam" should be ejected and should be suspended from the "Super Bowl" next week (which is where the winner of this game would go). They did call a personal foul, giving our kids the ball at the 1, and our QB snuck in for the conversion making it 12-8 with 58 seconds left.
As we on the sidelines continued to bitch about what had happened, we watched as the kids took the field. The Vikings quickly took a knee on first down and the Rams used the second of their three time-outs, 54 seconds left. - The Vikings again took a knee on second down, our Coaches elected to let the clock run. The Vikings took the delay of game, 15 seconds left. Vikings had third down and 15 at the 30, ran a play to the left and gained about 5 yards, Rams used their last timeout. With a 4th and 10 at thier own 35, the Vikings for some reason decided to run a play rather than "punt" the ball to the Rams 30. They gained another 5 yards, and with 7 seconds left in the game turned the ball over to the Rams at the Vikings 40 yard line.
What's left is still a blur. The Rams Coach huddles the kids up and they get to the line of scrimmage. THEN, every player on offense runs about 15 yards to the left of the center.THEN he brings back a guard, the QB, and Marcus to where the ball is to be snapped. What you had was the center,right guard, QB, and Marcus lined up at the middle of the field and the entire rest of the team was lined up 15 yards to their left. The Coach was yelling at our kids to position them properly so they were all "proper." Rather than calling a timeout with all the confusion, the Vikings elected to play on. With 2 OL's to block 8 linemen, the Rams QB took the snap and quickly pitched left to Marcus. At that point, all the "misplaced" Rams players camed back to their right, and systematically picked off every Vikings defender with great blocks, springing Marcus around the left corner and down the sideline for a mind-boggling 40 yard TD run as time expired giving the Rams a 14-12 WIN.
The Vikings didn't go quietly, however. Loudmouth coaches who were willing to fitstfight the referees got their two cents in, one was actually "tossed" after the game was officially over.
Oh well, NOW it's Super Bowl week for us and I as a parent couldn't be prouder. Not just of what our kids accomplished, but proud of what all that cliche crap really means when it comes to fruition. Lesson wise:
#1. YOU NEVER GIVE UP!!! For God's sake, read what I just wrote
#2. Work hard. Rams practiced all week, Vikings didn't practice
#3. Play fair. After the personal foul on our kid, I looked at my dad and said "If there is any justice in this world, the Rams will score on this play (before the last play of the game).
#4. Coaches should always encourage. Our Coaches always scream and yell at our kids, things like "C'mom, You're a good player, Go get'em." Never put a kid down or embarrass a kid. I see enough of that every week.
Any way, that was way too much info about:
THE GREATEST GAME EVER PLAYED"
And by the way, it was. Peace.
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LoKyBuckeye
I give up. This board is too hard to understand.
nice post Dubs..,. have an award. I'm looking forward to these days with my kids in a few years.
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Thanks LoKY,
And by the way, according to Josh, the Coaches call that play the:
"Fumble-Rooskie"
Don't ask me why, but what the heck, it worked. When your kids get a bit older, and if you ever coach them, please keep that play buried in the back of your playbook. Peace.
And by the way, according to Josh, the Coaches call that play the:
"Fumble-Rooskie"
Don't ask me why, but what the heck, it worked. When your kids get a bit older, and if you ever coach them, please keep that play buried in the back of your playbook. Peace.
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Had to post what will probably be the final chapter of this thread for this year.
Ours Rams played the Raiders in the Painesville "Super Bowl" this past saturday and lost the game 12-0, and it really wasn't that close. The Raiders have a player who is absolutley dynamite as a RB and a LB. He scored 2 Td's onn their first 2 possessions. The league rule is that when your team is up by 2 TD's that the sarting backfield can't play anymore, so the score would have likely been MUCH worse if this rule wasn't in effect.
What a great day and a great game it was to be at. The disappointment over losing was completely overshadowed by what a nice atmosphere it was and the sportsmanship between the two teams. Great Coaches on both sides. My wife and I had a few friends who had kids on the Raiders and we enjoyed watching the game together, cheering for our respective teams, talking about "old times" and really having a blast. After the game, both teams received Trophies and a huge Pizza-Party was held for both. It's kinda funny to see these kids as "football players" for 32 minutes, then see them take off thier helmets, chug down the Pizza, then hit the playground equipment. Then reality sets in, they're really nothing but "little boys." Love them and cherish them. Peace.
Ours Rams played the Raiders in the Painesville "Super Bowl" this past saturday and lost the game 12-0, and it really wasn't that close. The Raiders have a player who is absolutley dynamite as a RB and a LB. He scored 2 Td's onn their first 2 possessions. The league rule is that when your team is up by 2 TD's that the sarting backfield can't play anymore, so the score would have likely been MUCH worse if this rule wasn't in effect.
What a great day and a great game it was to be at. The disappointment over losing was completely overshadowed by what a nice atmosphere it was and the sportsmanship between the two teams. Great Coaches on both sides. My wife and I had a few friends who had kids on the Raiders and we enjoyed watching the game together, cheering for our respective teams, talking about "old times" and really having a blast. After the game, both teams received Trophies and a huge Pizza-Party was held for both. It's kinda funny to see these kids as "football players" for 32 minutes, then see them take off thier helmets, chug down the Pizza, then hit the playground equipment. Then reality sets in, they're really nothing but "little boys." Love them and cherish them. Peace.
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