BuckeyeTillIDie
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I'm sure it has been mentioned, but how Oregon (18-13) managed to not only get in, but also get a #9 seed, is beyond me...
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BuckeyeTillIDie;1117441; said:I'm sure it has been mentioned, but how Oregon (18-13) managed to not only get in, but also get a #9 seed, is beyond me...
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Because they play in the Pac-10. I think the selection committee placed too much emphasis on conference affiliation.
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BuckeyeTillIDie;1117459; said:
Which was the biggest sham considering Arizona State didnt get in and they swept them this season. Hard to know what those guys are looking at from time to time but overall this years brackets look pretty good.
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buckeyesin07
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BuckeyeTillIDie;1117441; said:
I read an article in which the committee chairman said that what helped Oregon's case was that they had three wins against RPI top 100 teams on the road. Considering all of OSU's impressive wins came at home, that likely hurt the Buckeyes if the committee was looking at that factor. But you're right--Oregon was thought of by many as a bubble team, which made me think that if they got in they'd be a 11 or 12 seed. A 9 is bit ridiculous IMO.
I knew OSU wasn't getting in when I saw that Indiana, who was one of the first teams announced, only got a #8 seed. For the #3 team in the Big Ten, and a team that was ranked in and around the top 15 for most of the season, to only get a #8 showed that the committee was giving very little respect to the Big Ten this year. OSU then, as a bubble team from the Big Ten, wasn't going to get in.
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OH10
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It's not sour grapes, because Ohio State didn't earn the right to be in... but
How in the fuck is Kentucky in? And how weak is the SEC in basketball when Kentucky goes 6-7 in the non-conference, but 12-5 in the conference? Then you add in the fact that a school no better than Northwestern or Penn State (Georgia) won their conference tournament, and how in the hell do you justify that conference getting 6 teams?
If any team has reason to gripe, it's Dayton.
How in the fuck is Kentucky in? And how weak is the SEC in basketball when Kentucky goes 6-7 in the non-conference, but 12-5 in the conference? Then you add in the fact that a school no better than Northwestern or Penn State (Georgia) won their conference tournament, and how in the hell do you justify that conference getting 6 teams?
If any team has reason to gripe, it's Dayton.
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LitlBuck
Kevin Warren is an ass
The reason that Kentucky is in is because they are Kentucky. Rupp would rise from the ground and tar and feather everyone on the Committee if Kentucky was not in the field.OH10;1117645; said:
I will admit that Dayton probably got jobbed but I also think that we did because I think we play in a tougher conference and had a tough for her out of conference schedule IMO
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buck e
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OregonBuckeye;1117451; said:
I totally agree... and for them to deny it is simply being dishonest.
Inherent in the RPI and SOS is the caliber of conference you play in. Same with road wins vs. teams ranked in the top 100 of the RPI. It's all built in as a part of that final number.
The overall RPI speaks for itself: It rated OSU higher. OSU's SOS rated higher. OSU won more games. There was no tie to be broken between OSU and Oregon. I really believe those on the committee spent too much time listening to the talking heads offer their OPINION on how strong the Pac 10 was and how down the Big 10 was.
That said, OSU has nobody to blame but themselves. They put themselves in a position to be passed over like this. Hopefully this will make those returning hungry for next year.
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BuckTwenty
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I think there is one thing for sure this year: there weren't enough teams good enough to make the 65-team field this year, whereas there was an overabundance last year. In any other year, I don't think tOSU would have gotten mentioned on the bubble, but because of how bad everyone else was, we were actually a contender. We would be a middle seed in the NIT tounry in any other year.
And I agree OH10. The SEC was the sorriest of the 6 "BCS" conferences this year and I'd like to hear an argument saying differently. Kentucky? Georgia?? Please.
The Pac 10 is very top heavy, but that top acheleon doesn't go 6-7 deep. Oregon as a 9 seed is one of those jokes that you can't laugh about. That's rediculous. Arizona lost too many games against similar talent to get in. If ASU had a better non-conference, they are in without much question, but they played a very subpar slate.
And I agree OH10. The SEC was the sorriest of the 6 "BCS" conferences this year and I'd like to hear an argument saying differently. Kentucky? Georgia?? Please.
The Pac 10 is very top heavy, but that top acheleon doesn't go 6-7 deep. Oregon as a 9 seed is one of those jokes that you can't laugh about. That's rediculous. Arizona lost too many games against similar talent to get in. If ASU had a better non-conference, they are in without much question, but they played a very subpar slate.
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ncaahoopfan
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Would it make a difference........
If OSU played (and beat)....
NCCU (instead of losing to UNC)
or
MTSU (instead of losing to Tennessee)
What are your thoughts about the hit to the strength of schedule vs. having 21 wins - with respect to being selected for the big dance?
If OSU played (and beat)....
NCCU (instead of losing to UNC)
or
MTSU (instead of losing to Tennessee)
What are your thoughts about the hit to the strength of schedule vs. having 21 wins - with respect to being selected for the big dance?
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LitlBuck
Kevin Warren is an ass
That would have been a very tough call for the Committee:tongue2:. It would have required much more explaining. However, they probably would have pointed to our record against the top RPI 50 teams. I think it is all a big joke. The Committee chairman talks out of both sides of his mouth. Saying that they don't take the conference a team plays in into consideration is a flat out lie. Most of the wins/losses for a team comes against teams from within their respective conferences.ncaahoopfan;1117974; said:
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tibor75
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OregonBuckeye;1117451; said:
yeah, that's it.
ESPN - Committee chair talks SEC tournament and other hot topics - Men's College Basketball
Ohio State being left out: "We looked very seriously at them. But the road record really hurt them. Only one road win against the top 100."
? On Oregon being in: "They had three really good wins against the top 100 on the road. Where you play is important. Quite frankly, the strength of schedule was pretty good."
No argument there.
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daddyphatsacs
Let the cards fall...
I love how Duke, a team that has been headed downward in the winter months, managed to get a 2 seed.......when they didn't win their conference tourney, or regular season conference. Ironically, Wisconsin gets a 3 seed when they won both sets of conference championships. What a crock of shit.
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